ENGINEERING.

Timaru Herald, Volume XCVIII, Issue 18030, 19 January 1923, Page 7

ENGINEERING.

ONE OR TWO SCHOOLS?

AUCKLAND’S CLAIM.

SENATE UNSYMPATHETIC

By Telegraph—Press Association. DUNEDIN, January 18. At the University Senate today an interesting discussion revolved around the following motion, moved by the Hon. G. Fowlds (Auckland): —‘ ‘lf that Senato grant the request of tho Auckland University College that the engineering department of the Auckland School of Minos be recognised as school for the training of students for the degree of Bachelor of Engineering (civil), and that students of the school be also permitted to sit for first and second professional examinations for the degrees of Bachelor of Engineering (mechanical) and Bachelor of Engineering (electrical).” In submitting the motion, Mr Fowlds said that the Government had been asked to set up a commission to report on the College being recognised as a school for the training of students, hut had. refused to do so. The Auckland Council had therefore asked a number of leading Auckland engineers to constitute themselves a commission, which' they had done, and had made a thorough investigation. The report of tho members of that commission was unanimous that the College iwas fit to be a school for training for engineering students, and that Auckland needed a school of mines. He hoped that the members of "the Senate would see tne wisdom and justice of granting the request. There would bo no extra cost, and there was a growing need for the training of engineers in this c 9h n (, r -*' The motion was seconded by Prolessor Segar (Auckland), who said that in view of' the report before them they could not refuse the application.. .Professor J. R. Scott (Canterbury Engineering School) said that the Government could not be expected to keep two engineering colleges going when the one now established was turning out more men than could be absorbed. Iho formation of a second college y ould "° useless and wasteful. One college was sufficient for New Zealand. He would like to state that the examinations at Canterbury. College were test examinations of a high standard. pfr Dr Anderson suppoited Frotessor Soott’s opinion. He stressed the importance of the Senate assisting the Government to concentrate on the lushed teaching of engineering at Canterbury College, instead of scattering research for teaching-this subject orer parts of tho country. Thomas (Auckland), said that tho Senate should bo very careful not to frustrate natural development of any one part of the Dominion. The Hon. J. A. Hanan said that, as the representative of tho Government, his position warranted lmn m saying that P many necessary grants for education wore bemg held up at present, for want of money. Education should bo considered as a whole. In his opinion the matter should be held oyer in the meantime. Ho moved that the business should be adjourned till the next annual meeting of tho Senate. There was no seconder for the amendmMr JO. Adams (Christchurch), said n . second School of Engineering would Weaken tho teaching and equipment in •fho school already established. Mr Caughlev (Director of Education) said that Auckland would not be satisfied with less equipment than Canter bU Tho Chancellor said that before the Senate could recogmso the school, R should know that it was efficient. Here was no evidence before them cxcep the report from a number of Auckland engineers, and that could hardly bo. accented Ho suggested that it might have been better to have accepted Mi , k£;‘r <, lr t 'h«d repHe.l „„ . » division, tho motion was declared lost by sixteen to