PRISON REFORM.

Dominion, Volume 3, Issue 910, 1 September 1910, Page 6

PRISON REFORM.

% v;"': OTE MILK FORiTHE^PEOPtE. :i:.CI/l'. : V'" : IN-;^: ' -.'; t-^&i S■/- : :CbMMiTrEE;v;-■ ;'■■; i-' /•;:■. in.tno 'Legislative Goiiricil yesterday'■':'V;'■■■■•/ihere■ was a, .continuation' of the' diecus-: ',• ■•..','.■•;'Bion; cfa the milk; .'supply question:.. The' ";;;. Crimes .'Act.; , Amendment;'Bill;-- , ;jva's.-.then .;,-..-■■' :put /through- Committee.;• ' ;■•': •: ;■;.,-■•,. '•,//:; The House.epent most; of the. afternoon- :;;",■' discussing. Ministerial'-answers to .-ques-' :: \ : : :;^;'Uon& / j;-in;.'-the:;eTenin^'',the"-Public ; \Debt ;:•/•;Extinction'.Bill. was;put;:through Com-•/■r-'mitteel/'Among:. other .' measures, dealt ::..,.;.with.'.iu Committee -Vas-the Stone Quar- /;:;::■ ;ries/Biil, ;but : ;when'/clause 3 was' reached: r;-'.V-. : progress;was:reported. J ;/.; ; ''■;'•■ : -:''.'''■/.'. >'; rf ; |\gJ,TH|^^^-^V' ' : v: :';;■;-■'"' 't'; /, * '■:■■■* ':?'-,. •■','. ..■.•:,■; '■■^■i-: - "■.'/:■[■ Vji- ] -,- : ;'[::■/-;■.:■.;[; I READ INGS.. ;.';V:; :.:/:,::,The Rbmari :Catholie'.V Archbishop ;;of ;..-'■, Wellingtori.-r.Kmpoweririg Bill:1910,, ■' :1910, in-i ':■ •//v.trdduced :by /the ■■■' J-:'' ;D.;; Ormond, ;?'; : was Jreadfa'first'time./; Thi9 purpose of ?/■; /ihe;B,ill is.to enable cer.tairi/Church lands. ': /■' j in/the-.Haivke's; .'Bay. to-be. disposed ,of, , ; '-.v'. with 'a/ view;;to i purchasing., land .more; ;' ; ;:',-.: .suitable "for -/the;, P u rpqses;,df. the '. Church , . ::■;.,■.'■■.'^Thb:.'EsKtitioa's'.'Act';.Aras!'reMiT(rf : .'from.' :.-: ':}■ //.the /House."/of' l{epresentatiye's,;'and. was' i;;; road : a Hirst '';■{:;';;;;;;'/; ' : . .-.'■'-.; ■■•> a ,'.'■/,.';■ '-The'Tbrs-ign: Insurance; Company's De,''Amendhient:.Actv:was /also;;read a; /:;//.:'tot:; ; tim(};;/' :: -'';.;^ ? r;.•;;._/,;;^v;;/; : "!/;/:■■■; • ,ft'f//^; ; ;;,t':;.'/' The I .iCouncil.//went'into• .'Committee'...on; : ■':';':'- - - the''Crinios; *Amfiii'dment : Bill:- ■'■■'.' "'-■•:' ■ I ;/ : /.;■: El' JENKINSON;moved; V': .:; ; an".'-. 'amendments ;.to ; Clause; '3,:- dealing ■I v. Zi-jwith'rsentence . for: indictable'! offence,;. m v/ : ;/~:4rates;'.the/.power, of.': imposing;: ;the' : ■'■.in-; ■' , -i.Vv''vißetominate/s^tenceJi;-. ! Tnisi:;Mr.VJeiikui-; :::;;.;;; ;; urged;-. should;. be;/decided; by:, aijudge ':;■';'. the i amendment. magistrate .sent . : :,.08. young man Mo.gaol that;man,at present .>.;-.Jiad .right: a;Supremei. Gpurt' ;'''.'■; iJu'dge; at 'the •■ end.:.6f;.hi.s',first'/£entencer /Joi/fUnder-the;lndustrial; Schools system,:by 'j'/vV'pe/riods;-of four-year '.'s'entences?impbsedion, ;;, V>;-. the magistrate, :ari ,: in-/ ;. ;/, mate>.,inight r i i be r.kept :.in -an -'industrial: :,- ,:..;school■ 'ior-.;■ twenty-pne-; years,/ 'and 'then' >;/:/; /for-;tlie : : rest; of;-his Uife.'";:;>'-.■ ,u; ;-:: r. '•; : Mr."iJenkinsoii rremarked ' that ' grav*|' , ■•■if ;'• abuses; had-;arisen'.-under : ithe-system; •'".'■: :-v;;./C The/'Attdrney-GeriDral';chailleiiged":Miv :; : •.:.;;3 r .to ; point:.to pne .^'.single'-- case : '^i;:;/of , abuse;"/: pri //the/contrary, /half-idiot ;'.::; wp'menj^liiOjvliaii^tliey'Deen-outeidei , '-would' ;;.;.:-i have-.fallcnf into the/: hands /of 'designirii, , -' /;':■/:, did-.riot: ~'j. think; there: was. a 'case/bfvabuso NewVZea'larid. ''fy'-'-\.'-. ■'. ■ ' t : : : 'JvU; ;; SAMUEL:; though/t/indeteri , . :;:;,;:• niinato^sentence?i jpri'sdnefs'f; should;; : be '/. -V '■-'':. giyen'',;:an";i ppp ortunity'/of'-'shqwingvicaiiso '.'■:' why they. : 'sho,uld;'nbf--be i 'detairidd, l ■'v&'(,v : TheVHpn:iyV ; ;Ki;srNrCLAlßoconsidered! ,:■ -■■v'wpuld:'safeguard/', th"e'/iighfe> of'. prisoners,-/-.iA i -'; ; .'-'."i:-: i '/(';'/-/-?.. ; v//:/:J U: •i:. : ;:;;V.Th(\/amendment.'waslost';:on/ffi ;;:. ; ; i.';;: A' 'further'-' amendment'td -:dd away .with ,;v'/'the;Prisons , ,:Board'- moved by:,:the. ::';i ;:Bon^^J;;'M'Gdwariiv ; :but .this / alsp;/.was ; p;.;.';iiegatiyed''ori : . l the';voices. ; /;;? '^ ; ;;';:;■' 'V'f\i- : '■['hi : :pther r alterations,' ; ih;.-accdrdance 'with: !;; J -v ; :the: ainendmerits; of.Hiie -Statutes- :,:.-.::. Biori'VCommittee; ; :'anriounced: in -THEjUofj I : : -.upaoN,yesterdhy, were'iagreed to, arid.the, ':':''. ;.■/; Bill reported iwitli,:, arnendmeints.' /'^ -: : oy. : -1': £^oii R;- Ml LKJ SU i: -,: : ,'Th/es- Rebate:-, on /'thd; question- tliat: in: /;■:-; 'itlie!, ppinioh':Of thd Cpiinc.il r ;ft;rther- legist; iV';-' /necessary.v.to'arisure' :■'■"?&&■ ;purer,';, milk /supply.;'to the.;,anh'abitants: .'/;;::';;'of;:the;',chief/:cities;of TOmtnibnvwas' //"^^resume'd-^y'the';'':^''; ,^:/;'//;'-^;, "''-?:':;;:; 1 *; , :;Jo;/r.;Hon:/C;iiM:jLUIffl'(Wellington),>,wno; he.«duld':conceive of -no/question of ; ; , :■: ■ iniore vital "to- the /well-being: ; 'v.'.of the .community'; than'.that f of'.prdtect-/ |/j.'.'j:'-.'iJig:ttie'.-:-liealtli;-:'bf,-;the:".people.--';dependent , ■';:'/vTippn a '■' pure'-'milk "diet, i.':lti should- be !/j ,;./the'.duty- -oV local bodies, in the; yaridiie, : '■v•^^■. : 'd^s't^otß;'-to.^takβ/':lipv ; tn'e.■'.que'stipr^.;■SPri : •■ /:'City/r;.Council :; >:,;,-/had.;giveri the' matter (sprieideratiorii-'and f' -y/V; he';' be lie'yed;. that ■////;/would.; be"seeking powerV'to, control;:-this ':~i":^/import ant;traffjc; '//;■■ ■:;:':; , ;-:i:'';::;^/'■;//; :!-<i-J:,Jgnp'rarit^Mothers..; : :. r ;;/;.'..v.v;-;,.. \-\:"::<i~:/, ';'.■' ;w:/;i ;;:: A ; vlarge/.propdrtioi;;pf:the; mothers of ■.^->;-^liis;;'iand.:;-WCTe. , n , ot-.-'a!^uaiiited-'.'^ritli , '"tlie'- /;,;•"': ffact /that/ milk conveyed 1, 'coritamination." • ; i:■ i.'Sf: they, were;/proporly -instructed : ;in. this i of'the;/ present/ ;trouble' r,': [.cpulil,be minimised.-;',;Mr.:Luko.'went .on ;,:/ / /to".deal : -'with' Dr.''..Trilby. , King's .advocacy.' ■:' :■• jof: /humanised 'milk,, in cafes where '■': the :!'■ : ;:, lfriothei". was"unnblo/ iii- fowl■■^^her/'baby.;'A >:■' aarge/ number.'of : .wives iii.- , New.: Zealand C :-'■:; leonsidered that' they were!/npt. physically •/ ':;': ■•: ■& t.-'to; discharge, the dnties'iof indtherhood;. ."/'"•lf.-these , .women :were; instructed/,in', re;:v:v:'.':sard/'to; ; milk]/ manyv, of ::tlie :■;■:- -objections' now. "in, the /'way of filling:_ the; .:'■;' cradles would : b9 : removed. -:'. , .' 'imilkj:he: was told'by experts,- was: ibetter , :/■-■:v-lor,; tae: children:sHiai the', milk-.:of-' a- :/;<■".; jmother-in bad h/ealth. ':. The Gpvernmerit :; would , with; advantage employ: -a .lady ::r : : : ;/jiaedical: practiKorior.to/go fromi one:to-iv-n ::,:/. : .to j another,.' - and give .: instruction: to. ' :: ,tmdtliers : o'n;;the: ; 'advantages; , in the; above- .' 5. ; : - direction..'; The time ! .was not 'far'.dis-' /•tant,'/ne : .believed| wh'en/'levery-herd of ten ;-/./'or/niore/rcows;would be ; :■ milked.:-by,-'.'m'a-:>C'':''-'-io'hm'efy;\---''^Hp'--;khew,^of-.r.one;^irm';,la]one ;: 'which .had''/dn,' dr.dei ; for'five' hundred ' .•;■:; ;on" itsbpoks.;'; Thpse'.'milkln?-; ■i ■ ,snaehine3,'beiiig/proporly. sterilised, would '.':'.-£■ the- spread'::of disease/ materially. that; would, ie-', -: 1 , : .'iducp,-if ■'it'did'.n.o.t; wipei out/entirely,.the/ ':■■■■'■■■•. ,: : -possibility;■ , 6f'-- , 'dangor.' , .''''' r -'-'.Tli<!re.'was.'ino--■•"v."---.thing.', more/ , -important , ;/.than : .that "the V;;:.''-imilk'-;sdp;ply'cslioul'd;V , be;;pure, : .fand'-,that ? /-: the, responsibility/for; seeing /that, it Was : ."';S--Vpurfr -shoiild "bo .cast/on i the' , anthority ;/'>;'//in : eacli, town.-"/^;,' , :,'-';■"':■■::;■;/' ;:'.V' : OEducate;';-iihe..People.;. ; : ./:'..;: •■■;-:■; ■/.'', - One most essential'; thing, .was that the ;;:-,. people, should, be iustructal/ as .to - tho ■.':VV';:£ece^<y.vpf-l:lvc.ep'i.ng : :;th',e,\utcrisilsv'iii'the. ;; ;'hpme:cleari. : ; The -iifnorancp'df-thc peoplb ;■ ; -' ,fclt,'y- more,'r.'accburitable"■•for. . ./danger than ■;.anything".else. Without ■:■■ ■';■■ proper instruction. , .and 'care 'oil tho part : '- of: the people , 'all' efforts- at :th« scene/of .tne/productipii df- : the-:milk ■ would bo : ■ more or lqs's 'u;elessv '.■..- ';■■:* V '■'■■■■•' -.-::: The Hon. ,W;;W;- M'CARDLE (Auck, ■'.■,.-'-..-. land), who claipied to - have; introduced ;. ' one of the first : millcirig;machines in the, '■: . Wellirigtpn province,. remarked;..on. the • -''-. difficulty- experienced in- keeping the . ;'..-■' machine clean. His experience - with tlin ~' i.: milking' machine was that, directly it was used/the percentage of cream and milk '■-'.:"'.: also/ went dowm In: some, of the milk *'■'■ ;. supplied'to Wellington Hve did;,;not get ;.'. more thanlj per cent, of butler-fat from ';;/the .milk. This 'indicated, .to' him that .there, was. something, wrong going on. ;It . : ,-;•-"• was. no; wonder infant life; was almost . ■;'■•/ ■ a failure,, when we had milk reduced like ■ : : this.,. The .only "test that. was", requifttl . to. got pure milk was the Babepck test. '•'/; •If milkers were' clean in their'habits, ho ■'■■■■ did;not think there was anything to fear. ■ : ': /:- The Hon.- J. ANSTEY . (Canterbury) ': : thought that ; we were going; rather .too •"'■.: ■■■' fast in this."motion. If the mover could ''.'.'■ -show . that the legislative/measures al- :■' / ready' -in' force -were not doing. all that ■"■'■".' " they sh(juld'do, he. would; support-.tho :.'■ .motion.} ; : ■:•'■ -. '/;,,;.;' ■■:■.' Apply Present Powers. .//;'; • ■ •■ '■ The Hon.: -JV,11./.SINCLAIR/: ;(Otago) thought 'attention should bo-directed to :" ;. 'what.■ thd law;.'is\-at "the',,present' ■ 'timo. The Municipal Corporations', Act--niado ample'provision for the "making bf.by- ' .'laws. Tho Wellington'-City Council had '■■■ -.-' provided that dairies;'and milk shops should- be licensed.; provision was also '.-; -made fn.'-registorod carts, and in: reference hi bringing milk in from.the farms and ><a inspection. Power was also given for'inspection by a Health Officer< They had to .-.sk whether or not, the city ■'■ authorities were discharging their duty. '/ • when they had these powers.. In view

of ,, the legislation , in "forcefit seemed!, to him that there, must'ha'vb been neglect, not'only; on the part of the city authorities, but; on the part of the Health-Officer and the Government. -If properly applied, the. legislation!:on-the'i'Staiute-Dook was ample -to protect tho''niilk supply. - He thought-the point; to' be 'attended to ! was the ipplication-of the laws. .■ ■'■''< - The Hon. -R. A!' LOUGHNAN (Wellington) spoko strongly against pasteurised milk, arid quoted" an authority to prove that boiled, milk:'was'injurious. Much was!claimed for huiianiseVl'-milk that.the milk- had no. claim;'to.;.":'.'■ : :;."

■.The Hon. W. H. D. "BAILLIE , said that: if we", were to have' pure milk there should Ik> no filth or ' dirt', about - the ■cow-byres, and : the Meows'/Judders and men's clothes;: should"■.bo*-"kept clean. ■With, this ;a'rid. a proper inspection- the position'- would : -bo met. The Hon. .0.. SAMUEL, .(Taranaki); thought", with Miv Sinclair ■ that there was already: sufficient law to. deal with the subject:-,. He. did riot think , any further legislation, was •.required.'; The . whole question' , was one of administration. We should try and administer. the 'law we .loading thSj statutes 'withfurther'■■'. legislation. /. The'"debate had been a 'useful one, but \hq hoped that 'the'mover'wottld. not .pressHhe motion.. ■ ' The dehate/.-wasShen-'aHjourned; ■ -•..'...;