A.—7a,

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Enclosure 6 in No. 9. 1892.—New Zealand. Present Members of the Legislative Council (Eeturn showing- Names of). Return to an Order of the House of Representatives dated the 30th day of June, 1893. Ordered, That a return be laid before this House showing the names of the present members of the Legislative Council, the dates of their several appointments, and the names of the Premiers in office at the time such appointments were made." —(Hon. Sir J. Hall.)

N.B. —The classification of this table and the notes are additions made by Lord Glasgow to the original return. Glasgow.

Enclosure 7 in No. 9. Memoeandum for Ministers. His Excellency has considered the draft memorandum [see Enclosure 1] left with him yesterday by the Premier, and he desires to make a few remarks upon it for the consideration of Ministers. He observes that the memorandum, in quoting page 590 of Todd's "Parliamentary Government in the British Colonies, 1880," recognises that the difference between himself and Ministers is " a question of an Imperial nature, in which," in a sense, " the general policy of the Empire is involved, and in which it is the duty of a Governor to exercise the power vested in him in his capacity as an Imperial officer, without limitation or restraint." That this is so is evident, because it is only under such circumstances that, according to the latter part of the same paragraph, Ministers can claim that, while they are responsible to Parliament for the advice they have given, they cannot be strictly held accountable for their advice not having prevailed. This being so, His Excellency is at a loss to understand how Ministers can be of opinion " that the responsibility of appointments to the Council should have vested with the Eesponsible Advisers of His Excellency, and that the refusal to accept their advice is in derogation of the rights and privileges of a self-governing colony "; and he desires to point out that no self-governing colony possesses the right they claim. With regard to the statement that in offering a smaller number of appointments than Ministers asked for he withdrew " from those responsible the confidence which the Constitution required him to repose in them," upon the inadequate ground that nine are preferable to twelve additions to the Council, in the first place, he replies that he feels himself bound to resist their advice upon

Name of Member. Date of Appointment. Premier in Office. * * + + + + + + + + + + + + * + * * * * + + + + + + + + + + W. D. H. Baillie Sir G. S. Whitmore .. J. B. A. Acland H. J. Miller (Speaker) W. B. D. Mantell .. Mathew Holmes Henry Scotland J. A. Bonar M. S. Grace Robert Hart Daniel Pollen J. T. Peacock J. N. Wilson W. H. Reynolds Sir P. A. Buckley .. Patrick Dignan Richard Oliver George McLean E. C. J. Stevens Henty Williams J. W. Barnicoat C. W. A. T. Kenny .. G. B. Morris Robert Pharazyn Joseph Shepherd S. E. Shrimski William Swanson H. K. Taiaroa Lancelot Walker Ropata Wahawaha .. 0. C. Bowen C. J. Johnston J. D. Ormond W. D. Stewart J. B. Whyte 8 March, 1861 31 August, 1863 8 July, 1865 8 July, 1865 19 June, 1806 19 June, 1866 24 February, 1868 27 June, 1868 13 May, 1870 9 July, 1872 12 May, 1873 9 October, 1877 23 November, 1877 30 April, 1878 25 July, 1878 3 February, 1879 10 November, 1881 19 December, 1881 7 March, 1882 7 March, 1882 14 May, 1883 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 15 May, 1885 10 May. 1887 20 January, 1891 20 Jannary, 1891 20 January, 1891 20 January, 1891 20 January, 1891 Stafford. Domett. Weld. Weld. Stafford. Stafford. Stafford. Stafford. Fox. Fox. Vogel. Atkinson. Grey. Grey. Grey. Grey. Hall. Hall. Hall. Hall. Whitaker. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Stout. Atkinson. Atkinson. Atkinson. Atkinson. Atkinson. * * * * * t t t t + + + + + + + + + + Totals 18 16 + 4-4 22 12 Colonial Secretary 1 * Denotes supporters leducted from the Goveri 3 Office, Wellington, 13th July, 1892. 3f the Government. t Denotes supporters of the inent supporters and added to the Opposition. t j Note.—Including the Speaker, this Coum Hugh Pollen, Urn Opposition appointed by a Coi denotes the Opposition. :il numbers 35. ler-Secretary. Llition Government