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have no guide as to cost beyond what we are told by Mr. Ivey. We understand there are four men regularly employed, and if the farm is worked entirely by them we should not consider the cost too much. 212. What is your opinion as to the value of the students'labour'?—They only work outside three days a week. Ido not think their labour can be worth a great deal, because a good many of them know very little when they go there—in fact, the first year their labour is of very little value. 213. Do you consider the students' labour should be available for every class of work done on the farm, even cleaning ditches, &c. ?—We have made no report on the subject. I value the inside work more than I do the outside. 214. Would you consider it necessary that students should be able to turn their hands to anything required on the farm ? —Yes, only some parents object to their boys spending their time in such work as ditching, weeding, &c. 215. What is your opinion about paying the students for their labour?—l think it a very good plan : it teaches them the value of time and labour. They pay for the use of their teams, and if they do not do a certain amount of work they make a loss, and run into debt. I should not approve of paying a high rate. 216. Does the payment in any way assist in their education as agriculturalists, or the economical working of the farm?— Yes, I think it does. 217. Do you think the farm benefits to the full extent of the payment ?—Yes. 218. Do you consider the .discipline and general oversight of the students good ?—Yes. 219. Do you not think, if the discipline is good, the work should be as well done without pay ? —No, they are inclined to be slow if there is no inducement to urge them on. 220. Do you know what method is adopted for punishing delinquents ?—They are kept at work on Saturday afternoons, weeding, &c. 221. Have you ever had complaints from the students as to the work they have to perform, or the treatment they receive? —No. 222. What reason can you give for the falling-off in the number of students?—-I put it down principally to the raising of the fees. Another reason is, that at first the course of instruction extended over three years, now it is only two; consequently the students get through their studies quicker. 223. Have you made any recommendations to the Board of Governors respecting the management and work of the farm ?—Yes, several times, as to fences, gates, drains, &c. 224. Have your recommendations been given effect to ? —Yes, generally. 225. Do you think it would be an advantage if the examiners had larger powers given them, so that they could examine into and report on the cost and economic working of the farm, and generally to advise the Agricultural Committee ?—Yes, I believe it would be an advantage. 226. What is your opinion as to how far such a ohange should be carried out ?—I think the institution should be managed by a committee of men who know something of agriculture, and take an interest in it. They would bo responsible men, whereas the examiners are not. 227. Do you think the Agricultural Committee would gain by having the assistance of the examiners, who would, of course, be practical men ?—Yes. 228. What proportion of the fees is required for the keep of the students?—l am not aware. 229. Mr. Ivey says £45. Do you think it could be done for less? —I should think it could. 230. Do you know anything of the Dookie Experimental Farm in Victoria? —Yes, I visited it when I was in Victoria in November last. 231. Did you take notice how the students were boarded, &c. ?—Yes, I had meals with them, and I considered the food good and sufficient. It was managed like a large station, by a married couple, and all dined in one large room. 232. Was it done by contract, or did the Board find everything ? —The Board found everything. Most of the food was grown on the place. 233. How do you think that plan would work at Lincoln?—l think it would do very well. 234. How would it compare in cost ? —I have no idea of the cost here, except what you have told me. The building at Lincoln is larger and would require more servants ; if it were full the cost of servants would not be so large in proportion. The cost of produce is all in favour of New Zealand ; with the same economy students ought to be kept at a lower rate here. 235. What is the usual routine there?— They work under the same plan as here—three days out and three days in. They work longer hours, and seem to have rougher work. They have not the same indoor advantages as we have. A smaller proportion would be able to get horse work. 236. What other work do they do?— While I was there they were building a cow-shed, some getting the reapers ready, some getting firewood, others in the orchard. They had a number of vines growing there. Some were raking hay, cutting wheat for chaff; some making ensilage. 237. You say they have a large orchard and vinery : do they cultivate forest-trees as well?— They grow the olive. A great part of the farm was forest. 238. Do you not think they should be taught forestry and practical gardening at Lincoln ?—- Yes; I think they ought to be taught a little more of that. 239. If they had belts of plantations would that give sufficient scope for teaching forestry ?— I think so, but they want to know more about fruit-trees and insect-pests. 240. They have a large orchard: is that sufficient to teach practical gardening ?—I think so. 241. Do the students at Dookie get paid for their labour ?—No ; I think not. 242. Are they smart at their work? —Yes. 243. How would they compare with Lincoln students under the contract system?—l was not long enough there to judge.