Evening Sitting.

Wanganui Chronicle, Volume XXIII, Issue 9456, 21 July 1881, Page 2

Evening Sitting.

*^^^hB The House resumed at ?-^iiinm9 The debate was continued aMpl'sSl Mr Turnbull, who exP«ser<H opinion that Mr Saunders's «B one excellently adapted to mj&dbejH quirements of the colony. !«y otMJ Mr Te Wheoro strongly (jfafrcaJß the proposed rating of The Bill was a motion wt^ "ISM swallow up the lands of tlv^rp-tjJH The Bill should be called Th^ ■ WISB ing and Confiscating of Nakg^ JM Bill. What the Natives wan||L|tjßß power to manage their otvn at^g^M Mr Tawhai objected sfroigiSlf^B Native lands being taxed. TrjM|^B of Major Atkinson reminded iff|^^fl| of Ahab in coveting Nabothyfjjjj^Bß The Bill should have a niillst^MH^R it and be thrown into tkejfyHH miles from New Zealand, soISH more heard of. He woidd i^jMßil Omiond's amendment. HJnVS Mr Wakefield said he tldHHfl it was to be regretted that hß^^^S members had been so mislefflP^^H nature of the Bill, when thJp^HJ many members able to have ija^^Ea correct information. He sail|^^HS that side of the House wh*§^^^jj deavoured to raise the questi™^^H| government during the earfo33ißßf session entirely repudiated* t^-lßpi now taken by Mr Ormond,'^JjHijll associated himself with mecVVJKp£ cared nothing for local g°vet^ti|sS&f'.: simply wished to oust or ds2||jßfc| Government, and who hudSfiKSj the restoration of ProviiioiasT^BjH proposals of Government wetrj^MyS reasonable and statesmanlir^^Mßi direction of local government S^^BSS and therefore he supported JH^Hp opposed the proposals of Sui^H| Grey and Mr Ormond's iiii'^^^H Mr Ormond's chief objection *-t^^H vernment proposals was would stereotype the County had himself established in (f^|B Ormond's admission that lie O^BH a mistake was creditable to h%Pj^^H but not likely to inspire con>JS^^H his statesmanship, or to "uKl^^H regard him as a safe politics. Next year lie h^^^^H his present action a mist» accused Mr Ormond of a&g^HH fairly in bringing his aiuendtS^^K ward without informing mm^N although he believed he hadlpj^H the Opposition, and entered icy j^H trigue to defeat the Govern nicy^^^B Mr Ormond positively <^|^H statement. He had not m^<^^^H member of tho Opp jsition of tftj^^B Mr Wakefield received thc^^E with pleasure, but appcamncaji^Hj to a contrary conclusion. Mr^ti^^E object seemed to have been towh^^H Govcrnmont into doing wluiU^^^E under tho penalty of being tgfS^^B For himself he would havo pß'",^^™ see the Government propose gjj^^B scheme to establish local boi^^^B permanent basis with gi'ealljjd^H powers, but the proposals nia^^^H in that direction, and tho'/'^^B accepted them. He had notr^^B liked the bounty sj-steni, butld^^H ted it had in many respects wspi^H cellently. Had the GovorniSjl^M posals been allowed to procce<i^^^H being intercepted by Mr Oruic||^^H endment, they might have bcenfl^^H into an excellent form, or el.scw^^H after full discussion, which wo^^H afforded material for proj:)ariiijs|^H scheme during the recess. j^^^| amendment were carried a di^^^l would take place without cvy^H distribution of seats. Mr Onn!M^H hare well known this woulii^j^H effect. He ridiculed the ide^^H Ormond being able to form (2^| tiy out of the Oppositioc.^^B present circumstances. After i^H through the successful adininisbjg^B the present Government, cspcc'|^H Native affairs, he declared lii.s i^£^| it would be a great disastcrjj^B country if they were turned outg^H an issue as the present one, would be j ustified in placing bsj^M country as an issue between ffjj^H Provincialism and placing locaia^H on a better footing with large nl^|^| denned powers. On that issue, Sg^H their successful administration *^^M to, the Government could safelyC^H confidence go to the country ;3^B would advise them not to oot|^H country, but to resign, and thio^^H Ormond the responsibility of tij^H govern the country better than t^§^| Mr Ormoxd said Mr Wakefi^H Mr McLean had accused him of<£^| been in confidential relations Government this session. He "bu^H denied this. Before the scssio&J^H addressing his constituents, clearly defined his position them. He had never given tbe^^H reason to believe he was a suppoWJ^H Major Atkixsox said he entiriqjM agreed with this statement. iS Mr. Wucefield said he li'^^H this assertion on what ho belief H entirely reliable information. % H Mr McLean said he had unde| H Mr Ormond to be a. Government H Mr Eollestox said he had UJ I intimate terms with Mr Ormont H certainly the nature of their com H cations caused him much sui j^rise^H he found Mr Ormond in the positiJM had now taken up. jfl Mr Beadee Wood replied to field. He declined to consider, or vote on any question but tl^H really before the House, which|B whether the Government propos^H or are not satisfactory. As to I|]^H going to Ministers to try and in^H them privately, this was Goveruiu^H caucus, and he entirely demurred It had been his own intention to qH an amendment on the Governmend^B posals, but on remarking this ''ll Ormond, and finding that he outcriSH a similar intention, he liad gludhaH way to him. As to the talk" 3H Ministers resigning, he was net :>[^| ened, fcr he did not not believe itjH in any case " sufficient for tho (h^M the evil thereof." In any event good had b-jju achieved, for now i<^| wapossible their Bill could pasu» i^|