HOME RULE BILL

Wairarapa Age, Volume XXXI, Issue 10713, 3 January 1913, Page 5

HOME RULE BILL

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TO EXCLUDE ULSTER. SIR E. CARSON'S AMENDMENT. I (Received January 2. 10.30 a.m.) LONDON. January 1. Sir. Edward Carson (Unionist member for Dublin University) moved his amendment to exclude Ulster from the provisions of the Bill. He denied that he was making a compromise, but said it was dangerous to drive Ulster from tlio existing Constitution into a loathsome one, which it abhorred. Mr Asquith said the amendment would wreck the Bill. To exclude, several Nationalist counties was not democratic. The Legislature could not accept the claim of a section of Ulster to veto the Bill. A HEATED DEBATE. STRONG UNIONIST PROTESTS. THE AMENDMENT NEGATIVED. (Received Lapt Wlit,' 11.5 o'clock.) LONDON, January 2. Sir Edward Carson said that Ulster claimed to stand whore she was under the. Union. n« it claimed to lrave succeeded und'T it. U was for the Government, if it could, to justify the turning out of Ulster from the Union. He nrew.n| the Government to j say whether it emit em ranted oxoreis- I ing the peace it would never have j dreamed .of implying to Natal if it '-oftised to hnwnl th-" African Union, if the Government had made up iis mind, ho begged it to remember thattin one could measure where the forre?\ of diso'-der if unloosed would find tbfir obie-'fivo. The Rhrht H„ n |-f.. H. Asquith .said he was unable to speculatr>. % ov lay down contingent policies. He did not believe that, when Ulster realised the solid ln-o-tpftion the Bill afforded it, it would do "ther than accept the r m"ierial decision. He asked, if the Bill wevo jaibniitted to the electorate*. n-}ia f then «-ould be the attitude of th" Unionists. Mr .Tilin Redmond, Leader of the Nationalists, said 'he would not be in finer bv the danger of a civil ; war. The fueling wa- just as strong thing bannered. He was prepared to "i to anv limit to meet the onno- | sition. it wis not inoonsist"lit w :+ 'b n" f ional self-government. A-t,.'"Rfiii"- T•-» o- Tender of the Oosaid ihal di'nste>- "-oiild Foltlii civ-ving of the Bill against will. Tlie Government, in i-lio I'von.t of wnv. wiit rambling on fl,n p-x.-:i,il : ty of the whole Nationalist fre'inr '" lieian-i chaniring. The 'binrer would, he -rdd. .b" lessened if Micro v —, f\y n subordinate narlia•viiv»ffl _ TTo "d;-'<caved in amendment, mnkinfr it ri"' - i"'s<-.i'-.T fo-- my tn "oun : 'i ou-'-'ide ib.( Par' ; i-ne"+, Tr ~ li" !: im'(vi -j.],,, T,n"^l ; >i--; wmld richer l» n -"Wi V- or .;•■" r.ninf— than bv 'lie T<- - f-overniT«aTit "•ould sub"-"" f'"> Biii to +h f ' country, he no-sona and ho believed he -i-.-e'.-n ('■■■ 0"» O'viosit i~". would not "tiroir""" 1 , " 11 - mm" 1 of Ulster's "o-dst.. ~,-,,-> n • 1,1,1 if tly forced Mi,, TVH. lie wo-dd nf .s:st Ulster's re-

SIV.-riiC". Tlii Ri"V Hon Winston Churchill -nul tV<f "Br Bonnr T. : .- had mn-h> sni-pinsinT statement that tlio Loyal- : *+c T)ref«i-rod foreign rule. <2;vo ~p.fl.vard Car fin (iptenoctim.r): ""?n+hor than be governed by moon'■ifbtors! Mr Winston Chm-hdl : This U the 'ntest Torv threat. Uh+ n v wcnild sr>- -^'• ; le for ftor.manv! (Uproar.) Mr Winston Churchill, amid constant and Vated interruption l -!, tan 11 ted Mr Bona;- Law with his latest step in Imperial statecraft. He declared' that 10 Oppositionist believed that the ■"v.emlment would be workable. Tt ••"•nnosod to mete out to the Catholics Ulster exactly the treatment which L bo Opposition regarded as cruel and "lfai'- +0 the Protestants elsewhere. T bo Unionist veto by violence was un:,u«tlficd. The Bi'l hail to bf» passed M ii'e« times, 41 nrl long before the Trisih n :irliament could legislate onpressiveV. there would be p general election. The peon!'\ he si id. had a clear constitutional remedy, without resort to of violence. The amendment was negatived hv 29-1 voteji to 197. ■MWIUWHMMMMIHMM