THE SENATE.

Star (Christchurch), Issue 16943, 18 January 1923, Page 8

THE SENATE.

TO-DAY’S PROCEEDINGS. Press Associatxdw.) DUNEDIN, January' 18. In the Senate the Hon G. Fowlds .moved to grant the request of -the Auokland Ooliege that file engineexfp.g (ifcparunent of the Auckland School i f Mines be recognised as a school, foi training students for the degree’ "of Baqhelor of Engineering (civil) apd that students also be permitted to sir. for the professional examination for tile degrees of Bachelor of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering Mr Fowlds said that leading Auckland engineers were unanimous that The college was fit to be a school of training. It would be no extra cost, ahd the need for training engineers was a growing one. Professor Scott (Canterbury’) said that the Government could not be expected to keep two engineering colleges going. when the one established m Canterbury was turning out more than the country could absorb ... Professor Thomas (Auckland) warned the Senate to be careful not to frustrate the natural development of anv part oi the Dominion. H » n J A Hanan (Invercargill) stated that many necessary grants for grimary education were being held up The matter should be held over in th. Higher education should igive way to primary education at Liu* present time. < Professor Hunter (Wellington) said that if the Senate turned the proposal pown. it would do a severe injury to o large number of students. J - c - Adams (Christchurch) said the Senate could take with a grain of fait the statement that there would be no increased expense. He did not think r2SCO would meet the bill for Auckland. The Dominion was not ready for a second School of Engineering anv more than for a second Medical School. Mr J. Caughley (Director of Educa nor.) stated that Auckland would not be satisfied with less equipment for its school than Canterbury. The report ot the commission showed that the equip, ment was not sufficient for higher edu *a*ictn. Auckland had started the School of Mines School of Architecture and a preparation School of Engineer ing. That was not the correct way to go about establishing an engineering school. The Chancellor (Sir Robert Stout) stated that the Senate could not recognise a school till it knew it was efficient. The mover, replying, stated that Auckland College was providing tuition which the Senate recognised as ■Satisfactory and which could be directed in the application of degrees fo” architecture but not for engineering The position was illogical. Thev were not asking for establishment of a school but for recognition of its teaching . The motion was lost by pixteen votes to eight., MATRICULATION SUBJECTS. The Hon G. Fowlds moved that the Entrance Examination Committee be requested to consider and report on the desirability of including book-keeping and business organisation in the op t-ional subjects for matriculation. This motion wn« withdrawn and an amended motion moved by Professor Hunter, that the Entrance Examination Committee be requested to —■ on the whole question of matriculation subjects, taking into account present proposals, was carried.