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TRIAL OF CAPTAIN JARVEY FOR POISONING HIS WIFE.

Mosioxr, Makch S»xa. : [ fe ,;_■-,, -, :Tho;^udg©,;;took.hia'^fcjiitViea-o^ckfek,,:tlie: <JoUrt: f l»lngcrWtel. , '.>/ ; ',:v.,r '-'"■-i,-- : .'-'' The CWWn JPiosecutor (J&, J^mes HpTOr^h) coiidiicicil the prosecution, ? with liiin : Bein^^fr JaiJieffl,-, t'r^ndarklMt..,, Mid,' .Mr ■'■Mfniy^Bpwoxfflx, jttir Jain^iiVSmltn"'Maa c#un«plifor.,tTMj pfisoneri'J ' Mrßinitli Biudthat.Jtljcns VOTpafewquwti^Bß which ho' '■ wpilwl to put |o,«ovcral 'yfnwai®t '; anil ho iihoiild be'*cla<rif;hk Honor iWotilil.coii-«e«fc^;thtt-I»ing.uouo'at"bnce^(-',' ',*,.■.:''.'>■'':'■'?■■■' '" His^|r(*nor'cott»orjte<L-">.-' ',,"." ' ~'•■.. "'■".-...." .1;., Edward 'William' A-l.exarbJer,.rccallsd :, 1; km well.'ac^nainted .with quinine^ an*l v ßtrj"chri.irie. TEheiyßoth;have |in inteswo'bitteritastoj aa'd-I think: that ono'ijtanuotVbo "e^uy.diatingiiUhed from tl»tt other. . I once hail occasion to ie«t this. . The teato of "qmnme ia of course quite fajailiarfo trie, Strychnine Ijad \#xn iulxaJnuttcrcd by muitakc for another mixture, in a cane under my notice, in Du!i(,*dih, about a yi a_r hack. Tho bottle was brou^hi' to' me; I tauter! and swallowed. ■«omo; and I wa» .■ under tlio imprctuiioß, from tlio tasU.% tkifc it was qiiinirio, The qunuLty;*^ 2/r t"' 8 z of water, «t litif v pint. I'lmt if) r<ckoned rulbrra*troutf'"tolotiori of Btrychnice«. ; I did notfTx-i:i»»[y lioroirig aeniation in my throat;.but ih« quantity I «•*»!• lowed wp.a very sai'ili. l'bitre was no hot ta»'e on my tonjine.; I am not acqa^lnU-d with the procetaeti «f : »he Laboratory, mh-jr thaa from reßdinjlj. appiied pure strychnine to tue Doiut of tny.tonpiud • Mr Smila": I witl ii^k. you to do so bye and bje, -3Dr Alexander. " i ahatl have a piece'ia Court iv the eourw of the d.y..."•■.■ f.■«• The Judge: "I dou't kbo'w What he might say ■to that >. ■' ■ ,r:/V :"; .• '"',, '•■•■' ';■ :"v' *Mr" Smith ; Yon would riot be afraid to do it, Dr Alexftitdi-r I—No,J ihould not.. •. : - "Mr Smith i 1 havedoue itfr*queiiUjr; of late. .The Jaitgt ■:■■ It .wu'jM B'rßrfeiy.be.good for the jpurpoj(eb(i:.vidtiice,ji«houW iLiuk. ; ..,, . J , .Mr Smliht I beg your Honor's pardon... It£« of Very great 'value, indeed. ~'■',■, '..,.■. ,";■-'V,,.,. c -'SxaminnUon, contioued ': I- ,bea>d the evidence e^ Dr Ilulrae. asto tie exhum'ftifin, of .tho'body. 'I'agrec with.him tbatVexuinioAtivti.'of. tits brain or BpinaV nurrow wouiii have been useI6es, ptt, accuiint of docortipoaition. Dccohi'position,, was Advancer! exienially ; it., hid commenci'd iiiternallj, Uut was not yeiy ; far otU vanced. It' fjoiomttiicun* very sonn tfier death; and must have a'ivnnewl* eormtantly over the whole body. duHnir the thr'« mouths it Jiud been interred. 1 took notice ofilie feet oftfie corpse. I noticed nothing peculiar. The Jcet wera ex tended, as the fret of corprrß peucraily are, tt> •coffinS'Sridtiutof ih*m. It-i* the natural tendency of the fret of ft corpso to cstcud. I cannot say tbat cierjch»d.lion i are a svmp'om of death from all acute nervous disewsea; bat, ao--Cording to my onnexpcHem-e, it in not tituli an uu common («3mt)t"m tn cniaa ot death from variouo dlseancp. Iligar mortis oi-caiionally flx<« the -hands in acit-uched pwirion'— Bonje'i»!e« oth^r-^ ■wiise. I cannot 6^y whether it i» otiiy WiopithJ 1 tetanus that i« i»o<e..rare in mild than i<r hot cliroftte • I only kuow (jcnerallv that tttarms is morn rare in the former thin ia the inttor. 1 aw not very familiar . with i>oltt?i-ild light, as a •r branch -of »ci nee; but-1 bava ersmiued »omt -' Bubetanceir under it. As, a, qucfltjon of rolor. • I (houlcl sny that I Sh'otl'U not ba Inclined to pin my faith upon the differetice* of light ftfl pr*B«»itcd" wlulu iho. pUtd was bejug rofated ; bat there are oiher appi:aranc », in th« j -cose.of jsryntaTs, &c. t which are peculiar to 0! jnct* examined uri>;er jjoliiribcil iitbt. ..W'th tbe qualification' that 1 am not 'well acquainted whb (ha subject, I nhouid uny that I would not rely upon color alone in examining a subsitance under polorised iicht. ... By 'the ''Foreman : Quinine knot n pw.3on an the bchm ot b«nK las.l; hut it vtill pro-luce poisonous *fli;i:fp, it taken in .excess. .1 know of no recorded cuej of death houj the excess oi quinine. By a Juror: Quinine will irjunoun y aff'Ot the brain; but I cannot *ay iv what qu*ntiti's it must bo lilten fur that purf/osu. 'fwo jaralna wonld produc; no fuja'ioul4 tftect vi any period By the Ju''ge: Tbe fl twing of bfood from tb« wound in ihedecfasodV anii fa coi'^titoni'Wtth life ns we'l as with-death g-it may occur aitei death, whwe the blood Ja fluid. .... : , , fJJTobn Macadiim was next recalled by, Mr mith: I did hot" ueartain" th« weiK>>t of the dry residue obtained by me by either process in my- cx<uhi«atidii. Iho procefs of wefgblnjr such an extract is nrver pur-ued by analytical ohrimi'ts. '1 huvebaen a chemist for 22 years I dotCt ain't-rutan 1 the qufl'tl»n. ** Whftt nr° tho two grnnd' methods of uuul>tJc.il chemistry V, ... ..•,.-,. ■■ , ... .. You' do not 1- -!To, will you repeat it I—(This W8» done.) The ■ Judpr^r'lt is a eve of clagFiflßiifiotJ. Taking tlie Word " aualyria" in its bionie-t iinri largest venue, what Is (be usu il lo^i al division I It ia louictiiy, broken1 down lutn separate Rroup-t, I suppoM —two or more—Mr Smith «ayn iwo. Mr Smith: I ennnot t'ompnhe'nd why lib should not understand niyqueation. Your Honor uudewtauds it; aud be—KWit chemist «i» he it— ahintotr.hr. to be enough for him. H« *houUi have the whole tliinc at his fliK<-ra' eoi's ">, —I uiay say that my book on thu.atu j'Ct isan auihoity in the oilier coloi.ii a. Well. I r'pi-at my question ?—^T!ie proces*CH depend up^ri tiso application iv the firßt inatance Buppo«n tliat you ore iii the locture room, ia the full-Mown dignify of lecturer, and about to teach the} omh. of Vie tot-in to t- boot on this subject "' Supp'oie you coiKm-Ji cc at the Ttry. beginlng* of ch> ioicai'a'ialysin: .whit would be the first explanation you would g've th"so Btudeutis sb to the lone. gi*;stifl Sending .division %— In referenca to inorganic tsufostaucea, they sro tiugbt to divide them iri'o KfOujis, = ' The Ju '%& : Thiit it not tho aoswer, Tarn sure. (3f> to the very meaning of tho woi-d " analyßis^'then. is aniily»;s sub-divided into twoor more clas'os'!- It i« not, your Honor, txeeptiu reference to thn orennio ant inorsanio cla»R«i : Mr Smith: Does it matter to you what you are coins to analyse? Analytical eh mistry professes to deal with nil-known subftnnces, does it not?— Yes; itoiißhtfo. " Very well. Take tliat as. the starhnjr point; and I ask you what are the two grand divisions in that science or art ? , . „■: The Judge: That is, ol analysis generally, ■whether applied? to oreanic.or inorgnttic matter'/ —Yes; qualitative and quantitative. Mr Smith: How is it thnt the question I first did idot at orice suggest that answer"?—l did not understand it as you put it. '. ■'■'■- You, an accornpltebod analytical,chemist, not to understand wfiat I asked you I—l did hot uuderstandit, sir.,,* ..... ;. .. ; ■■■■'', •■;:■'.'■':}' •'•'■,.;* Then there "a quantitative and there is qualuativc analysis. Which did you,employ in this easel—Jlie. .qualitative... method j but sinre my arrival in Danecjin " . I want ti>'know nothing about your experiments in Duncdin. ■ . . The Judge: We are speaking now only of your experimenK in thia case. You say you employed the ■■qualitativb'jhctbod 1 -Yes. ~ Mrßniith: I know you* have.1 been hard at work since wa arrived—reading" Fresenius a great deal, I believe?—l have not, «ir. ....,,- You have uXbt—l hay* not; except for a few . Boiou.flot recollect on. ihia day week, afterl tte'Court W risen for an adj luirrnnent, my^skIng youi''•*" IcnaVe not %<o% a late wittSori of i-rese-niue, but 1 uti'ierstiinu ywu hwo tbe new ono; Will vrm favor me by lel'iug me have a look at it T' Do.you recoilcet tb.it; aod.jifi!o» T wb«t •wasyour ansvv«r?-My' answer y/an that X Rsrg it to you ;■ a ibmgl wiiJL new dj again. - [ Waa that your answer, eir;. J. rerbember »y>peolalanswer;;but;l knpw:|*at LgaTeyou ' i gait, *ir.: fii! fe:4!s:*>^M yon! What was the answer you gaye—nerfepft ibis Wry Bpot where 1 now afotdT-On; Monoay laat"? '" :' ■ —"" " " "' '■-'.■- ■ -'"'■■<■ f'-i v ■-:«: On Monday..lan, air, »^on I,a^.cd, you,, bsmjqwctftiUy »s on® man could ask another, -'Wul

! job do';me' tfa£'fltf&l» Ui»t btwn t" »hicbl t»ht-to-WeomnKrit-prt>p«rf3r,'aiowied£eT f .--Did ir^tigwitwiiw4/«tt4iiDt-s---■. :,■■ •; How did I get it, sir.l Did ?ott rfw Hto me matter of courtnjr;»l jfiad no .reaaoa to do «o"of <\ J}id I'ljrw ,w)t:!»srißpJ3f 'ifti% jirJwifl«N(»* If cannot pve it to you; at nil cvo-ts, not wiiaout:th« leave oifthe Crown Prosecutor"?—l did. i Ciy^p 3 'Pr^)^utor»'|ma:lfi«OT;^ho,l||§e^ . :p.liy«d »I>}f.-. lif jaflfiv^S'- trial,' 4J&idTiio ''pns^.'ii; eJtpecfi"!: s}ioald%et: tn'ei't)i>^Kir i lj|d9,.Bo,tge|iiif tote at night, through Df iJocSen 7—Ye»r * And on condition .that I returned it in two houru?—Yes.: ;'-" X"-';■•'-- ***£**■ '■ : The Crown prosecutor,: My.&iejid,|Jiould not speak tts'tke is doing. "*He hbs been "shown every eourfcew-^ "the course of thfe.tt#estfeatloii Air Frenderpraat: I would submit, your Honor, that Uicre should be none of tliesc imputations thrown ouf, as n»y frfc'tid'ii doing. Mr Smith: Indeed, I am. not throwing1, out :tmpuriif tons. H 3 says that, that was his answer ? —Quit<: so: and, on behalf of the Crown, I think it wasuay dutyvto do.what:'l'ilidJ'';"'il-it;-'i ""it The Judge : Oh T.never mind that. , Mr SmlrJj": 'Now, I>r'Maciidani. yiu used the qualitative process fa this case I —Yes, t&r. :■' » bar 5e tUs .otn-unt of tbeqaiUhutive proce**/ M -contra idia'inguished from thfsquf»otJttu»e I—The quAlicttitire.i.«, merely to deter, vin«),She l pfe*enc«of h ihing in whit i» being analysed; tbc qti^niiti tiioiuto <fcteiTnlne!it*qaa»ti»y awe.. -;i •.'. !.■:•.>j la .it,not,,the. iQorf.i'ntisf^alpry tept—it all fiveiitj",': i< Sinottnore'satlnfiwjtbry when1 evidence ha»to i>e (liven in 11 -Ooart<«f-Justice—if ih«t proa- as i« nioptcfi Ifhlch RivusthJ cxirt quantity of a parti' u'ttr tMup- eziotin^ in th»* euostanw or iiqnid AoaJyw-t ? —In cascfpf nrw-Diflal po^oing, WJivre'q'iant^Hf 8 of iHei'tMiuoa^U'^tMea u'eVi.fhe f» Wme'iraeii a*>tutd, tocivejan, ihpiaxVqfc tion to th» weight of the poison found- he can uot civ>' tlw Wright of-thc whole. Hutwlicatt is strychjiitie that i» being dealt with, where only a grain,, probably, has been u»ed *aap>l*oßOu» dose, the anaiyitt has to ha yej-y caiefnl with the wattrinl wheo k« dlisco7ero It; [hecaaaot yenl^iie to'prdeeeii ;to tie %eki of weighio^ j • faiv uiih ouediiinsrily,;,. the .2p,flooth ; /,pjj,rtfcflf. i »» 4gntfa t .>tß Jet^ctible fa experiments such fts 1 Lnsjitatsd in tbia. case.;,* <■ - - ■;■ £ . <;• ■ Doh'Vybu go as far n* the jtoxi^oloßiiiU'in Pa)rnn'j< cs»e,_Bnd ray. tbß£.xh9 M.O. ullt..ot,a gram can" be" detected ?— Oh J do^rrj. to the flOjOOOth or (tvctt t3io7(^oootu,of agfiili, 1 woul.l I iiiid it by the bitter taJ»to. ~- ■—- I WojarCitollciug mow:, of tlio eocperimentjiyou rniule on this wonmn's, (stomach, not about any of.her. experiments -you. rnayhavo raud<irv. Are ypu'ttwaro that FrofoiMr .yivylor,,!!! giving Jiiif cyidoiico on. Palmer's trial/montionod that *ugar waa/a iiource of error to the analyat-ittliai is to Hay, lliat it might mialcul as rcgiirdi tlio color tc«t«—that it would prodaco .the samOj pJny ;of .colors'? —He'didnot. ~'. :';;;- '':",''" "''?."•'.. .',; : -i, -■■' 'Will your HonoT^ favor me with the 'Mole con-; tainirig Jfalmelr'H trial ? •■' ■■•■■ ■ ",' ( Tl)o Judge : The fact of your haying, pmitted to put a question, and thorefot'e nsked to/hAve the wßnewt ■ rectflled, ;wOl'hardly justify'ybuv going'into avery long string ' of questions from booka. '■■'■ -; - :'; '■' ■ '''•' ' ■'•'"'■' ■'■■''■■■'• ■'■■'■< Mr Smith-1 I hope, your Honor, that not only you but tho jury will bear witli me, if, under a heavy flenso of responsibility, I sho Id task your patience. I do beseech your Honor to bear with.it.-, — The Judge: You cannot complain of want of patieneo. ■', r ..'. Mr Smith : T ia not complain^ your Honor. The Jjudgo; -But when you ask ;to liayo a witnew* readied, to supply jan omitted fact, you cannot go into this sort of examination. Mr -luuti:: 4 cjon*twi*h to iiave itie ; reproach on my conscience, that 1 have left oue stone un ■ 1 :urneCiu this matter. I will do my ', diily,' your i Honor: let others do tbeirx. . .'". ,;. The Jridgi:' itc*nnot matter whatT*r?or *ds'. hf.t Dr ««ca'lam give hia opinion,, if■ yon ple«s«e. Mr Kmi 1I1: Ido hot with to waste tirae, aud I will ro to an onlinly new subj^o:~one tliat 1 did cot J/Juehnpon before. : .. , ~. : I have instituted a vety elb-e compsrißon between theee two subatnnces. et'ychnine niil qalnine I will now auk you whether you are sw/.re of p. 117 Bpccial bond of uuion: between them, or auythi'icr which conftitutcs. a special relation bujwecn them 9—The/ *ii allt4ld*lß, both. (Oh! mo.! I me-in thifcjat, eli^ f l t yrill put my quctsiion in this form. 'Iw thtts any orsianic zuttUiTtce of which you 'ire awarty whi"h conld K^''It'{iibal)lv/''e'xbMt^>iraiin<.'o t ul(&!uV i a'iiid l from Btryehaitie?—^Noiie. "''■' ""'. "" ■''■ '" " Yon aw perfectly clear of that ?—Yes. . What iiro the component elements of Btrychnii4e?—Cflrbon > hydrogens oxygen, and nitrogen. You <-oo!d extract the carbon. I will bring you regularly to what I am meanin t;. N'attio tie elements which-constiiute quininn ? -Curbon, byjp'gei}. iind oxygen,,l rieleve. idou't remember theiormuTa,5 because ttils formoli.—•—!. ;■ :';,.!'!', •■■ i-;.i ~;» .'■,■■ .;m'...-' j . ■■•'!' i.'i"- '-I Tlie Judge: You don't remember the atomic proportions I —No. ~' ': ■ ■ ":T I nra not asking you, their corabininfr proportions. Even experienced chemist aa you are, I am not asking1 you to stdte those from memory. lam not .unreasonable enough, for tliat. I don't, profess to carry law-books in ray bead, but only general principles. But still Ido expect that a giirittefrißhof your experience will bii iicqiiaTiited with the tact, or n6t quinine fe; composed of precisely the same elements w strychnine ?— I think it h deficient in nitrejicn. ;•, r '.I', ;• j ri: ; i Allow me, then, to inform you that it is not ?— But I will not become responsible for the statement. We have about 0000 of these organic bodies, mid I will not testify to their special compositions. ' '■''' '" '"'' '" ' Quinine is a tolerably well Jcnown body ? -Yes. And you say that it docs not' possess one of the elements .which is' possessed by strychnine *-—I will.notsay so; itisonly itty belief. -■.■• ~.•■ ' / ■ Of'course, I only want you to speak fromsyour present knowledge?—lso speak'at,:this moment.' 'fills h my edition of Freseniua.. . Look at it. Now, whatjsiyouFiOpinion?—Ye», quinine does cont'iia nitrogen ; it was purely ;• a of memory lyith mo. .;..: : ;. ... .; •,..,;.,! v.^-i"..*-. Then tlie two substances are composed entirely of thp same.natural elements 1— la diftereut pro- ■ portions. . ...... .... ... ,-,, ;..;•, , ; .- ; i _•., ;■■■;,.,;.. .■■:,;: ■ ' Suppose I read to you the proportions in which '< those elements combine, to [form quinine:; Carbon, 2Q; hydrogen, 12; nitrogen, I ; oxygen, 2, The Judge: When the jury arc. told that enrbon, .nitrogen, hydrogen, and, oxygen, i: form stryclinine, ,and that quiDine'i* composed of tho seme, the proportions of each should be explained itotheni. .•••..-■' • ..;,.:■,:; -, ■■ •!<■„■ ,■'.- , ••■.■.•v:.i,' Mr^mith: Exactly,your Honor.,. v ~...j{: ' The Judpe: Some of the ,^howomest. ; thfnga we eat, with diUereut proportions of their elements, beconje the rankest poi>o«8. .. ?■>■:■■ .'-f ;(..;, Mr emitn: That is exactly what J atn ; Koinß to brinff out from Dt Macadam'^ftwoivaau^ your ii'llOti .:,,■]■'■■-.., ■■!■' ''«■.-,,■.. ■■!(!,'vi:i,|i ; ' it-it ■:•'■■-'•>i''X '■ The Jfu dge : Otherwiße t the j nry will be mte- ' !str Smith:" 'f' ftssure;■your;';Hi(inor^;'t;h'i«i'''llyou, are premature in tKofo remarks. I pare only, gpt bo lar, to fee* at this information:—Odea it not altogether depend upon the" propottloa'iti"Which" these four different element, r ,wta, hydrogen, i nitio/en, and oxigeiy"'toe"'«binb}iiM v .. iw to wheiber the iiubatancs ia or innocaouß|— It &6(>im. ■■';■'■'■''''-'. ''..%;'*, ';";''.',..v'. '■;X*A ' 'v* sAb*rding to thai proportion, .ft thlng.mtty bfi, c<Sdd 'for food ot aestruotiTO of life ,l-r Just £io. MefSkrhite pf an^^^niPOie^of: thp, same elemea^Mlbifl;;^wn,;.tat^;da^^ar 1 • ;:Tbir ;post yh;(lrei:!iii":«oinpos^""'of;;th¥''Bttri^ eA'taebtv <*<>> 'xs-::;i6 i;iiot?-B«ictlj;;J--'but;;» commenced. hW, nbi the-Btoe. ronjaiaiq stance been <leadfeed ' Aora',; tttttafe*-,«Bd;,;ftOßi •Mycbmne ?—lf you willfca tod to name yon. Da son consider GrtßOry*'Hvnd*B«)k I waaa student of Jo*.' ,-*.;,■...... ,•„■:'" ><■;'■'■"£' ■■::!B^'i»l:flr«tautbdiH^;iß'iMrno|,l^Tdß.,,:_^, i ,

ncarijr like; Cffl^oniturardreaiilc Bnb»t*aeeßi— "Yea' 1*"5:1'' ''■'"■ '>*■ w> fc':-i.'•'i'l-' -wrvßvrj.-•»!■:£.?'...<!■ °! ■ Qainlxiewstrteliolne.eiclilßanfttarml argiaFo H»*B6t mt'so tmHe^ the:d;flarent. elemirntii of wbTehibia !enb*l*inM> is'^wp.j^/w.tS'produce «omeUitii£. $w^; ?l':Hk«' i;'qi«J«ito«I?—»»'artificial p^eiSsaLha* eVisr'ryef1 produced'gmriine or »t*s;eb> ems.,*'* --•'■■•'.;' ■ '.-*1;1;'-1 t-;.i.;_'i:-'' i »';;':r^iv,-. i i---"r.» ''■' But Wba* produced soiueUrinjf Very nearlf itt-f1 Ira<m^*ba£ stout thai* «•*«",• -":<n? '' '1.. jHIi■ *ead'. fok::a" f»^#>'':-v-"1i ylia beatf alrrady mention^ tbat Hoffmab '■hijriielrlj 1 «u<&. Medea^^'iye:!'•'nearlyliiVeitdVtff* ■*■ >' i!i '■;' iTT": r; Tasked yoa whether *uelira substance, nearly, bad noli been produced 1 ~-JBttfe * hate to speak ot facto here; not of nearly*.'.*' {V> ' '. " ■:■' ■ •'•. .• ■. Iwi 1 read the p ws»fie: —"Ithwi alwadjr t<en at-ted (hub Hoffroan hailinearly succeeded U pronudne.prtifioißl qninlDO, or ratbtr, id renroduciog it foam i qoinilioe 11?—Yc»; hot tlie i iiift":rw»e» Qtf one rii'gle ntbm In a Composition off thai kin<l may make the difference of.its it»eiag innocuous otmptii*oa:\-:;:h «,h;!: ,n'~Oi-i ■■■--'■ 'iir; <•:-■>■(>. ~; •.;:'■; .ivlattttcl witbthat,. you knoar.; ;t£Tbu latter buse may be obtttiaei not only from quinine but from the oil of coal t*r."•■.--Qaintline i* *he organic subntance to whioh I refe^iel ; and Gregory *%y* tb-it it can not onlr Iw obutue'f from yirctino, bat from coil tur. -Mr pmlth, will yoa'ullow mo tom*k«.» pfmarllj? ~,,-.:;■:;,■. ..,-; i.ji'-J-vi/.-'JJ " The Judge:■\ ¥ou musk not .''.xe'auiric.? -Yol* may explnia Vnytbinir you U-ivoeaiJ. •■ : : ...... ■ It was nwrefy, yoor Soao'r, an' flluitmUoa, that the etmcntii may be witiiisi one ston of cotnpsriton, and the ra|»tanc^ be dSff^re»t Sugar ivodsturc'aaro of tht)'same«ltmcntß, tiifirfog merely one proportion. ' - ' Here f« aaoibßr /.pjtaafte ito-whieb jl' wish! to <ttr«nt yourvatteistioo^'in: this aarto oooUl >Io *p*»ltinffofßtryohoina.Gn^'ryijaw, *'Strycb ■ nine, when' heated iritb ha!Xß"~wh»t dfea that mean ?—That which csa'cotabiac with and neetrs.ljse acid. i":'- .'i.I'*.^ ;r-<«:.;.>j;.;. •<-■■>» >•.. -i Strjebnloa^ when ,«> d»ttwith,. *'yf*H» the voUfife ba«e. quiDili'ip?"—ln ihi< eve-1 may; inform yon, the Momaoh was iliibtly tfeid * . Qaiui iae, a* I jjatbertiroia thii«i can 'be *xtraet«d directly from qairiiiie. or from atryclu.iua hated witbjba ci ?—'"HIJ-you be «to>d enough fa> tv» td".'*QiiWiHtte;^ and real whttt issaldir" -S • The'Jodiie: IfwtoHi yoi' would ab«tai«i from nMlctojf tbew .sajtitesnoni). Tbf« cx»miD»tiott will Iwit all day. Answer qa««*i:>i>9, add ezplsiti youroirn evidence, if jn>-ce»»»'y; •■> ■' -'■■;; ■ '•' r Mr Smith: Are you p^pi'ed to deny^, wip-p-wintr quinine to be in the ba'riftast'mtc'rr^ th*t i»fter the'proeess of ideebmp'tsitinn of the boly: has gone on for three W (bar muD'h". this qatolline, which may be seklirßcted fr'.ai quiriine.- «»<»¥' not combine with other Ka«e«—-byijrojfen, nt tmgea, andoacygen aref <ho results of deeoniposition, are they not?—Shv, Mr. •You are certain' of tli*t ?~ Yes. .>^ Doeimot the burnan bcniy, ia deoomposition, erblve:thoße«Kase>;T—'tdoe* no>, sir;- ': '; '■' s!h»Jndge: If you run *M to other question*; so, i shall forget what are the atiHwere you 1 want.' ■•' •■■ '■■- ■ "'■■'■' • ■■■■■ ,: '".; V ;..', '■■ '■' ': Is it not poeaible,- nappoalufr, qainine to be in the stomach oripinally, that, iiijdccninpolrißf. the qaioiue may be ra forioed into'a nibxtanve whiob wilt present some, if not alt, of the peoulinriti** of Hlrychniae, as far a«i color-teau are concerned V —No.-eir. ■■'.■■ ■•' i~j -■■-■ ■> = ---l ,-■ .."•-•'•'■ -.- - - -." ■■: i.--!-.-^ Y«uif3eny that? I deny H. r ' On what aothorfty J~-9eam the ciroanSß'ance that mcti a re*u't lias'neferl bf<*nobsarved'in any jf tho bodies that hara b-cu c churned and; eximiocc by any of th's fih'jmißts iv ihln world. I How can joa Mfdertkke; -to ►ay th»l? : Have' yoa got'«■ «peci»l repttrt on.iye-yHodyewrex-bomecl for the purpose of chemical otatnioation ? - I hare a very K'wJ €hsmical libritry, If uot the best in thiß heml»pberie. r; ' :;' »: /> ■ '■■■; f ' '' ' The Judire: The proper qoeit'oti'i* at to his opinion: whst lins b«!eii-dbs^rv«d In 'this world i»of very litile con«eqa»niSoiJelr?', <! Voa «re en titled toa-k thli-^-Wfcetht* ha is of opJnWn th^t quinio'! la the "body" may, by • nniou ■ with' the ga^y of decompodiioa,, be OJarerwd ioto'stiych'Mr Smith,:: I say, Into eom^thlng, co nearly reBembiiwr ir, that it witl ■ produce tb« play of colors you otatrved ia ttj* cas« ? ~f do not believe it. v! -;i: ■.■;■■...>;.;■. '-r^!' 'f^' '■'■ -'■■■ "^ = /'-'■■Vl' T'J .Ara you proparsd <o iJeby it ?-I have asver exaroioed ttbvdy for that pnrpose.; ;: !■ \' No. I should think riot- You woaid noj. venture to deny it. 'An a qann'ion of chemical aclenos, I should like to know if you ore acquainled with any othef instanos In which chemists have saecewvd nbtcbty in imitating but producing exactly orirariJc compounds which are found ißi nstnre?-^Ye*,, *everMt haw r>ea.' Can yon name-any !M-Or*» ■•■"■•'': ■■.■•■■■■ .'■■'"■• ■'■ II The Jn«!K8: Did note Haraphrey Dtvy produce noinctbUifir ljfce'dl'<mon<l-/tom charcoal ?— It wns the diwoyeryof « Frenphman, your Houor, ttinco hw time, aud wai dwoo, by. galvanic qieam, and bringintr points «f.charppaj t«» th*r. ■ >.■■:>. ; - Mr Smith': But; thetpin no doabt'alibttt ttrtH' Imvlng been pwiiuccd by chemical art ?-^-Sovorat ■ other organic subHtances luwo been produced, but Ido not romemb'er thism. ■' •.■ ■' ' How was urea produced? : Was it' not hy tho (ledo'D]poiitiob'''bi certain^imbstances,'-in'order• that tlie elements fowning them misj;ht rfl-tusitci and so forni thin new wbstanco?— Yes. 5' 5 - la it not by the Chemical f ore©: of decoinposi-; tioa nnd reoompostttdtt'tbafe tills is effected?— -> Yen; if <yoti include the two. '.■ '■[ ■ 'And thus urea is prwlu'cbd, which is precisely a counterpart of n. natural organic substance?— Yes j: and formic acid hiis also boon produced. Are there not' other uimUar iautailcus?—-I do notixicollocfetliem. ■■ * ~r■"•■. .-■-..-.-■-■•."-• '- ■.-■•■;.- Ia not oiloE spirea onq of the«»?~I beliove tliat it lias l>eeh liiantifaefcurcsd. ' S'ai'gon.Blles, and other essences produced only in fruit,' in Nature, ore now tlioirougMy inu'tateu, aria produced from; butter. ■ '. ~, i.The Judge: Friom-coal tar, norno of .tnem?— Yes; but most of them, now, from rancid butter.-■■■>■«^- v: '-^>'i !■"''' ■' '■A'i-V'uSh Whs tliafc tliougM possihlo, not more than a few years ago?—No, it was not thought possible. And yet it has been done?—lt hm, and the field irinraearingwes iMyp ,<y^':. Exactly. What we do know, compared what iwe miiy know.' itwiyibe a very *nia]l portion of knowledge, may it not I—l sincerely; bo.ie so. So do I. At allsev«oits/I believe; it; and it is the case witlt myself!- -I should think no. I might, return the cdrapiimtsni. J>r Afacadam, but I don't choose to banly words with you. :WeIJ, then, belnj? lusitfauMttl with the jnaarch 'that chemical science has made of late years-- : considering;: that organic. aubstaaccs h, aye' renlly been reproauced in the liibbratory, by the art of man—l will osk.you agaia, for itis no catchquostion, it is not a mere soraetnirif; to puizlo 'you—are you, ( as a .man off science, prepared to say that during tho decomposition <)f the human body, if you suppose the.pjfisteQce Uiero of a dose of quinine, a'uL-tance may hot be formed, by the decora position and.return position of thfieletneitts jdf TPblclii quinine and' the cbmpoiictlt patHi of the body are formed, which substance, JUT. not exactly, like strychnine, would be, at all events so'h'ke it as, by union.wiUi theoxydibing agonts vouhave raentitined, to jprbducci die'" same'jplay of colors as; strychnine?—l will now answer you distinctly; I quite understand ycur.question. It could not. . Why?— The tendenoy oil &U orgtiato \boditi*, tdurinß deeampoiiiticra ■; if f :to li a^:r^laotio!a,;;fjf. J .the Ico'nplacity of their coinposii'ion. ;" "'- ''■'■' ' " If hat means—decomposition, and/jngbhring to t their duple elements, f hat is what I eupposel - We*-. ■ .XoffyfWM3^M^i<-m • ■'■"■■'" ;^w- ■' -.;: > Will, weknewtbar bsfot*?—Yes; bnt I hare f»omeliilasr: i in»rft:''^j-|ii!qrii l .i:: T»>e;.;ooinp*;sit|oijr- flf Btrjchntne fa almost duplioature of the composition cf quinine. ■■■•;;;;•,":■;':;- ■'-"'. ■"■■■;;; "'.;■■' otatwUthati duriog diicompo»Ui«^ the tctdoncy • -iff/ ■!>.!;« ••j;>',';(U •" ■ : fe.;rj'»7:>v-f:■ &e:s;v*-;A Ziihpiwf^ ' v>; ? Kr;v;.!i-.'?:vttfl;.?;; 3 '■& [.■■'^.■•J^'i'k ?&&' tit*A:t&*?;!i£'\>spe '■ f>i/i'Si-h\ ■';■ fjf'd ■??'i • nti:[i -tyy *\', iif&:>.&'&i^M^&&

th«;^miK>sfVon*W«^li#tli«Wditi!te^re^ ■■jjis^'^UliiMijdiiWi^-M |^1^ aail:|[ii>^^iW■>S^:.. <«i•*v4l<i^o l -■2^rt^■ ■•/«■■; if-'^vaw ii»iwte^ <*ii*i"a(^'itrtw"'«,^ie^&i!fro tb>tt~*n»ittj^r«tie'M?a'flict.:;?»';^. ,f>" J,'W: ;• 'i the niornic ■ Bumlwr of slrjrchnine i§ tit- bifth'er elevation of qninice to atrj<jt nine i« quits o(ip«td «&a!!otirktibwl«dgcin;referencßto6tieefiemlßtry diji ;*ydU-deDy:«lh^.:w>*aib!litiir'i»;oJf lbs hav:perfink"in. tbfe boraaa body while- nitdtrcoing decompo«K ;*■! atf^^fcßWy^KbaJew;' ':'A"|treat many1 p#p!ot ■■ wrtasyeira 1 Ago,' oeiicvf3"that it wae lmpivsiWe^to pr6p*>l a ship by ,team ; Bnd tnnoy other things that h*ve come to paw wtre believed equally - ioipo«if>K Bat wil! j ou. as a taan tf Kcitnce,* undertake Jtd B&MrtUi at litre-vie »t«p thart—tbat tfafs i» iwS'ibW iritf tti«t Is cot? 1* ;whlit.-I'h'aVa'^tvtoi^yoo* '.^omhKs—\ \: doI':not Mieve lhat qoiDlne conlii, ender any cucttm!,»t»rices,!'beo«lne*tirychnina-'"':'' ■'■'■■ ■''"'■ *X-■;-;'■;'':;. :.,',, , "'JDo be good'etioDgJi to uiideratand mv qnextion. It i* not b«(o what you believej but what, as a jntaa-'of'*'!«*Oß,";'';y<>ti;'«re Tprepttred to iiirij;-?^ '; jdeny jt, beOßUte £i has nerer been i,ro»ecl in any jway-whatever.'l^ ri-!'' viiv-'i« : j*'' ■■ ■ * ■•■/■-■■-■:■.■;.■•■; •■ ! Voadeoy it for ttwireanisn ? I* lhat tljo ea*e ? —Yes; as 1: woufd deny that t,be Burt woald not iiso'tb'inftrroW'niopiing'-'' :";.7- i;:!''';-'1" I*';iV";".T;'"f>1 *';iV";". T;'"f> | -HftvayOß*qaiil irntfinrityfor m^ltinKaporirive satlrmattekt iboaf the- two tWngs ! Ttiiß; >un baii performed; his i dinrsat- coiltbc for thoosanda of ycira. Wo know ti>at,at m tier of history. Do yoo know anjOiiftfe (W c-rtain to tho conuury tiiat ■quinine cw form sttjh a coup mnd in tb« decom posirjg body *s will gi»e tli'e ptay of co!or«>howii by strychniue ?—Prom ail our present; knowledge ;in rlrtrniiitrv, it could riot.: :;■■'•'- ;: ['''";''"■'■'■'"■', '' Petfeetly true.'; But tiaviiyou the swie authb!ri iy for denying that what I ,-havo; Beta! yon i* p ifliible, is, jou have for fienyin* fhat the: sun Will not iriee to-morrow tnomiogt—'A* a.« hemiht 11-woald'deny'it.-': p !~ ;-*.<.;■■: j ? > < BafIwhy'|: >:B«e«usfl;'otr' ir>kinowlei7ize"of these two sobetancis is Mot reetricied to a yeir; or a'few ?year«;:'' "r1'1-"".-"*''"1 ■:t":'?- wi '-r. ■-*''■.'- fv'f = Thei lodge: In: <%ur'B of' Ju»tfce wa are fmperfect; we are dot mortsls; we ntrcf can arrive jay !tbat 'ccrtainity 'Of wh/.el>; matbematipir art capable. We ueTPr can jat a propttiiitou to the jary so certain as >hit an fqnilTfttral liian^le baa equal flßgle*, or ihat two and two make four; '^«ciri on'y'produce mforal 6'reotntyi; /'■'■;" > !1' Bat', tbis1 %ltn&>« 'go** :fartlf'cr. He taken upon hiciseJf to'deuy thatwbat I pul to him in pofßible. ' -': '■■ '"' ■, '■'' >'■■■-<■[''■.•■■ '-.', ! 'The Juice;: )*o;;he do*»n'ot: He says, " I 'believe and hop* ibnt there is no limit to scil ntiflc dlMJovfJry;" Hi h&s Klyen Bvidencft'as; to the ■presentetateof ncienca. '■''■' ■■■* ' '■':'/' y I■■■■; " ; " Mr' Smith: '■'•:-Lei'-un undewtand* -whafcitfa y.tin ;<Jo?— -"I profeßß my'belief,- hx fiir ;a» cliomjaiirj atioriMßiit exferifls; Ivan pro iio'turtber. : ' I tbihk yon are very safe, So llmUytiuif be'iel to )hat extent. I flawed you on Salur ?ay whethec you had bot exprefsfl \V T*arse!f «sultinul> as t.i ;tb«sfff«t ofeitrei'fm"' riti'pi»'lform*d «it. l>r H"ek'»ti'i' 'houses t«po% thin tnaL. You doa led, a 4 I ;uudcrfitoml yotJ.'&bstemphaticsaiy, that yon liad done i so } l anr],!yoti: apjieardd to' 's bo overcome by' enid- | tionwbilis giving tliafc; dexiial.' I must ask yon .that quostooß:once more \;' and I will put youparticularly on your guard,ijy making iho question ! rdorospodfio. ! ■""■■i." : f '■■'■'■ '.' ''■.. '"}' l:.'" [i 'The Judge:.. I don't thitik the witness'should jbo tlumieu<jili •••-•1 .■■■,■;''■''■ .•',"■'.'' ''.' 'l;.';' \ TMr Smith1: I clon't'threjitoii, Mini your; Honor j il'simplvpiitbiriiiOnllisgliard, ',r "' ' ' Tho-fuugo: Ask him tie question apart from •any consequences,'1' r ,': \ 'Mr Smith: The question is . this—Wliether, 'after Hevbi-al jiogtt hiwl boon killed by strychnine, iyou did'itot r'aii.yi ;"H«," alluding ( fa tho ■prisoner'^— -r.'" .'■.',.".'." '"■[ '■'.".»!'. *. " :..'-:'"■.,'" i ThbJiidgbr Toil may t&k.him wHether it was notintlio pr'cse'tifio^pf So andso,,'' ' ; ■.';,:, |i Mr Smithy Jntlio prcseaco of ■£* Ecclos-^lfl you. kubw h&rt.?—lTeA; bat 1 ana Hot aware' thai LDr Ecclch1 wa«i present at!tho experiments, ■ i Dr.Bcoileß^tAjpt-Heplorf^NoitHer'JQrI:^^ irior Dr Hocfor was ,'preseut afi" tlio"'experiments ; * Tho-tTtid^e: You; are auked, •* Did^yo'i _exuli in the roßult of your jinaljfMig, when given in thii iCdurfc,' in tho prosbnejj";of Dr'EccTes and Di | Hector 'ir~l' thiiik it .".itwisJ'.'^hit' ypur Jlpnor, tliafc i exulted tlio. ddatii' oTt hd doga,' r V,' : "The Judge: Tho 'questipii i^ no^a* to that. ' :Me titmtu: I win no inure h^eciiu: Uia yon 'ttrtejv tue«« words--'.*He f» gettinor' peeper, aß«i Ideeper into the mire .every h<>Ur" ?-~T' tta&'fo,"in IrefercDC* to your rfelay ot'rhe ca«e. '',' , ','■ Not wilb refeionce 'to the results of ihe poiwrtIner of tbe dogmas to be given in evidence in tbii 'Court t—l thoaght thst the time given to me bj the (Kisfponement of ttie trial waiiieadltie: a-" iritc experimeots with dogs whioh wer« wConflrmatory ib«t you, were, placing the prisoner : worse and iwcrae in ptisitioß. '[[': ;;J '";■_ ',/.•,■•■'.'••'-■' '.■■-;.. I Were jouawftre that evtoedca was proposeifo hefiivan <;f the iesnlts of' thofie exfwnuieuts I—l havetbomaKerials.pre'entnow. * : : ■ \ : Bttthi* Honor wimW not recctva It I^Ynnßnva time i for j the 'performance .of.the'SXpirlmenta jbat: wonUi Inot; hav<>the'reau|(«.l '',"',,-.".' '. I JYojt dWiUiet'lhe exprawtoii, '",,rTe, w.'isttln'g Beeper and d-Spor Into tlio mir* 1," rae'4d)n'g the prisoMr'l-^l, said that ybur' 'were';" putiio^ him inio' that position: and' yiiiry mucb to my regret, wo,'■".'-' ■■ .; "■■ ■■"::;'. '■■■'■■■■ '"\ '''■';. '>"",.:,/'' ; Did you not, in the Kx^ibJtion Ba Sdiaff, in the preseooaV oi' ; or«""'Heeuifand .aiiid ;bf Mr lfp&, say the trial fa poftitoiied, and I have ta come dawn naraln, 'I wJll mate it much w'oitt; for him; *or IwilHirifig my nssistaat, who tr< a mstricaUteil ntudenl:, aa lit »ii! then be in uch Worse fjr i»ina" ?—X' admit th *t I «sid I tajuM brtngr kny, oitlitant; bepiiow' lio'wm coguisant of;' ail my ' proceelings^was at'my. right htdd ;hrbufth"all this eiwmfaation—-and it would be more eoncla*tv? If be'wiw h«ra ! "'■ . \ ■; ■■ I?tdyon ray: *' I will have hiscliiMren ddj?'up; nmi exa'iocthem too, and lie Khali" be tried for all thrcßi?"-rNo»ilr.. ■"':; : ;;'., V "■:;: /' "" •' ,',"'. Doyou sirear■that?—l mrear; that. 'Wlwt I said was this :"Xb'at! I thought1 j^.thif "rial brokd. down in reference to the moat probably the fjovernnieni"would 'order' the children W, be dug up—tlißt I would have to tal.e their stomichs to KeSbourne Jbr analysis—and that a new trial would have tote injtituted. You did not say tharyouwould have them taken up ?— I have no power to (to so, amt it would bs faoiWmcss for me to say «v Mr Prcnderg-ist (by consent of the Court): For what particular object were these experiments at Dr Hocken'ft tnatJc ?—With a 'ricw to determine £he dose necessary, tlio period of d(;ath, anil the period of tho setting inof the stiffness* of the The* Judge: Iji animals?—ln animals, your Honor. Andrew Ring recilled: I was foarleca mpntbs nnder the cotnmand of ihe prisoner in ih« Tstania, before K<T)tembcr last. Ido not recollect that during that! period the prisoner laid poiron for rats. I never heard a word about his having done so. ' ' > faints Cnrran recalled: 1 have been second steward of Ihe Ti'ani* eight mnnibs, undur the cosxunaiul at Oaptals Svntj. > Siaie he went to Ilobarl s?«wa. > Ohwles Vallanctt Pobirwan recalled: I'do sot r"coilcct about thft Bontb. 'of ticpUmber the prl toner proposing to trio ttt .use prison. Ido net remember nit doiiir «o At any time.1 lam <ot prepared to deny tint hu mi.tbt bave. done *o } but i ebould have rrqaeittsrl hint not to bavft done to, as llio rats mi j fat die between the iiningaut! ihe »ide»o£ the tbip r *aC liave o*nsed-uapleasant reaalti- ' Elts ibetb Ann Jarvey tcssHod: I emaaot sty from whom I rewired thit informaiibn lhv> n» father had adveirii-sed the! prop*ity in Swinania Cor sale I was in orrespondenes wii b the him ha, and it may ban been frooith«nt tbitt 1 learnt it Amottg tba store* at this home at C«v»rsham I here were ao ja^ia nor fei He*. We did not keep then -i I «*ed to look after tbe hoatehatt »tfki» jajself at tn»t tl toa. Mr mother unk • niik «W with her tea. ' i .-, ~- , - Ihomas Morli&d Hodaen, ex«m!nea ,by Mr i!nad«rgtßti 1 «m « Ugally-qßaMcd, jKeeUt, it i , . t ! '~.*, 1 " . * , I , It I i

1 *pp«i»tineat of Cw»«if. « In^JnT ex^-Henie I b»ve metwitK one^s^tf p^boniDß^ itrtpfc- ■' tone aboot «i' tnflntto'sßo »n<l two or* ififiM :• wbere there, ■«« reco»eify. The priton dfcd. ! :■ «iw daiioflf Jhe 'iijmptojbi^lhel'tißtte.-^f.. **«M ■. end after death. •■: I ir«B with him. iboat»n hour .■' : befoifct'hti dud. When I got into tbe rooni > the; , violtut tetanics eon vuli-ioni.." -TUti'' fimbr #<*» ■. qaieeriag of tietn. Tbe cheat waequile filed, lb«t k, there wMlittlo or no reppsMtfon—ihb ■ fi«».*" :«*»'«•' livid^Jieiw. «3fe»:^*wer*: ;' (U»d the pupils dilsud ; pwvictißiy to ti-is I bad seutan emetic down. wbiohbiMJ had effect - abe jaw* were *o»tig, and c.o-«<l, that 1 could sot introduce ihe gssref ihe utomßo' pomp into ' the month In ft *£ort time tbe sbtcHj of the i fit pa«*ed off, in a conplfr of minutes perhaps; aud I had ihe patent removed to « chair, wl>itl the light ia front to introduce the stomach pumiiV 1 Ht>w*B then cou»cion»jand mid ''It wtioiiieyour F doing anyibisg for ma 11 hive Ulten toomueb." 1 I oieansed the stomach j and to pa taps iwu or. ; three minutes more be httd a second lelanlc fpatm. -lie wa« ranch the name in this as before;; the head was'thrown back, and the limbs ex tmdeJ. I withdrew the ttbtnaca pump, thS* ; time having clewed the stomach; tsau he «aid-f' : '; (I doiiot remember in whsicrrdm) r«" I"hdpe y»;u' ; will lake care of my K»r 'bb'tlunA V!l»"« ; •'«; ' hoi ed the friend that wot near blfn'wnuld fjllo«»; I. him tjtiiefnota He»pokewvoriltim<Mi. she , eyes, na before were quiw staring and fixed, : They w«ie fixed on one particular object ap- !:. parentlj ; aiitl I thinlc it was in the fourth i tetanic >pa»m that he Jied. '; ThatlsaHre»peci~ : fngtbecate. l had him placed on she btd, anil >'■ left the ho.ate. I ww him the afternoon , after his death, probably: wvaiih ors after. I[' '; left shortly after dt-a-h-about four or fiva : sciontts,perhaps, ■• I ("id not olwnc ihe !. state of the bed particularly On my rt-tnrn i.ji ,' the afternoon I Examined the body, which wasj excessively ris;i<l. Tlia rigi'ii'y wes CKC*st-ivis, y wbicti-is.unusual. 1 havenward tho eviiiefico i jriven by Mm Jersey, and the symptoms <?»a-<.-rJi- : ■ bed by her are consistent with driuh by str/crii-'f ' inlat.■■< 1 have never wen o case of i<)iopa*bic, but' s one of trauraatio tfltanua, excepting children, r among whom I have »«en twn or three caeciß, 1 Tba ujrantoms shown by Mr* Jarvey were not [ Idifter nt from traumatic ttaaus when fullyr j' j developed. ■ I was going■ to any -lo>«tryotjnl« teta-' ; not. the symptoms arise and ere' fully develop**! i; 'in about two boors. In the case 1 referred W-. iit was about an h-nr and itwentj minutes; , whereas in ldiopathic and trau-jjatio ittaDU", several day* or hour* at lca«t, are requited for , the development of the dispute,. In the latter;,: [,: cages !hty envelop'h« fejdy graitaillv, while lv ' sirychuiue tetanus they are almost simultano [ 'ou»*y developed, I do not think the ci* aiijr ; !d.fferen&* in, tie time of development between > i iofmtbio and traumatio tciauaa. > bore woulil ho remiaaion of the fits; I>|: lioih . clas j<Mi i' of; tetauos i They _ womJ wA ■ Intel mi t,i r ihoy would only iJiojinieh izs vioisnc<J;:. jL»e»!li from idiopathic or traamutio tetftims occurs iatl i tiroes varjing from twenty-four hoora to day'i • hfter the commencement of the stiack. SeitiKx,, i ncoordiog totay ju«!«nn-nt, would nsult Imcatli. <: in fifteeu or twenty mirintet. I ba'pe ueett ft RTeali -■ rieii of hysterii. 1 ntver wttneaised hy«teric«li j i syncope. 1 cuppofo It, Wuuld be what is ci^iecl - Mitaltpßy. Hjßteri« i* very cnmiDO" indeea !i)i t ftmaitr*. 7t la not common with oiarrieHworuisa, -of ferty years of age, »i least i«; tbty have hid i children. I sever heard of. » wuieot dtutth m«, ' aukiig from any form of it. The ; <10---l scribed by Mv» Jarvey are ;not aymp'oms ci; hysteria. In ordina-y case-< the |tmwe»iate *x- ; ertiu^ cause of hysteria is, general y tome liUlis ' qoarrol, or s-)metbin(f tha: h->8 occuirei to dl+ .; iurb tbe woman'w baUnc<i of miu<i • herjrap- , toma of puerperal convulsions are generally i> , mixture of opup exy ana epilepsy; th« woman in ,' iuHrnaib^c, generiilly fa'w et.oriiiK ■ brrathfoK, »n«i r is convuWd with; what la calttd oiouic coovuifwo f<hc ha» very great difficulty of breatbiog iudei-d. i The convoimpna iitarly alwajs oo ur at ihi» time of pannritioD. Iv tha two caiea >: I have aetn, and the cbiM : -wiw- boirn. t tfia birth of the child Immediately fol- ;'.'.- ow«d. 1 have • not teen a ctrne of death . friim i puerperal coiivulflou. .*ly expeiienco in deriie t ,' from private practice. I' never saw a case in; i:Us; t' l> iiig-inHo-pital to which Ihad acceiiß the delalie «; Hospital, Pettr sireet, J)uhlin. I have beiuM f; she'.evideoee" mivenby Ml^B Jatvey s« to this. ',' >ympiom3, aid time, of death' after, i&ey occurred,- ---' ana I caoDOt attritiute her death to any tlLseiise •'.;' with whi.h 1 tt!D arqutinted ;,-.:,._; ■..-■, ■;■:..-....[' i Cross ewwilnfld-By Mr t^mlth.t As far ai I; I, can understand, you have gmn seven >yojptomV 'as those which jon observed in the ptruon wnnsii | death Jrom strjehnine you Jiave b.'eude-cribinjr; - the flrut was rigidity of the liinbe, tbe>t alghti uc *. quiverißir of the limbs, the che«t qoite fli<il f /, !which yon would oiiaracterl«a*afiph,xia'{—No ; >. Well, whether'or tio there »ns itttla or Ihu respiration; the (nee iivi<i; the eyea protruded ; i 1 tnelpopiis dila'ed—Do tbo*a compnse »ll tbti =. cymptoms yon'Observed-in; that woman?—Von*- ' soioosiVess ia not mentioned there; : ■~ •" ■ V. rKott mentioned-thatafterwtr.ts; thereare tw.f . characteristics I ought to bare" mentioned, ire*' 1 m(«*to. of those avrnptims, and during thM ii« i mission there <r»a c n»olott«neai]-r-ve«.7 tiiiini- ' tui.ht have been cotiscieraness at tue other tinio» !• butat ny rate,be waa not able to speak. ? • \;':;; '■: - I have omitted anotlierißymptd«i--<>pbthoto'JC'' '. —the throwinpr of the heart bade ?-—¥&>, it'WrW'oa •> thecbair. On the; bed there'wi» no opistbotono^ ,'s perhaps the epasin wa* not severe Stiough. .J't 1 'Did1 this spasm' increase 1 :in- severity^r;towarrds deatli? J think they were the:same:; ,T did not < perceiye any perceptible difference. " % ll;i _ '.-. iExeept that towards the end thera was opbtliar. '•. tonos 1 -Yes, wliile on the chair;, but the ctfect|of; Imlyioffon the^bed migrht'preventthat. :!'!; Why do you think so ?-Because'the weight1 of! the body would tend to prevenfit.}; 2j -4r-. ■'• Have yoiiread'on that disease^-^-iTea. ■.'■■;■■■;.>>■*■■: You were in England at tho time of Palmer*!!! i 1 trial, and your attention would Iks partlculaidir ■ directed to poisoning by strychnine, i»nd the «ymr»* < tonis thereby manifested; and you have n^t ortljr ' experimented on' the '• lower anlrmd<. and htrvtiH ttadfed that particular branch ol medical know.- •■■ ledgciin book* ?-^-t have. J'-..- -"■' ■:■■*'! ''>',■ '■,■■••'■'■ "i^l •Allow nio to a*k_ you this questioni—l» lf« otlt% result of yoiir medical reading that the eStei of it hutnao boJv lying upon a bed is any otataelu whatever to tne occurrence of opisthownos —•» The .Fudge: Call it bending backwards. By Mr Smith.' Well bending backwards— ii. is no obstoclo to tho occurrence of that peculiar bending thafctoutnus does cause it?—[t is no obKtacla if tho wpjujn be uufficiontly severe. II h a question of severity. ' ' ' Jtint your actual expariance is limited to thi nt\ cases; one wniclt ternitnatcd fattiUy, and tiro others, where tho patient* "survived ?—Yes, im' each of those two cases, there w*» maraly a fesling of rigidity and inability to control tho nioMJles. ■ - , Docs not your reading confirm, tne same result, you observed in the caao of thai man whosti death you described —namely the Ibiead is invariably thrown back, so f much as livarly to approach the heels; but at alleveotir the head ill invariably 'thrown back?— Yes. la 'WooH'<[ caso Idia not observe anything beyond oxtremo stiffness. Th« hoad was thrown lback when can1 the chair, but I did not obiiecvo it when h6 wait on tho bed. J Yoabav«noJ> told us whethor;|roa owcsivoai' the position of his feet?—Tho moment the iil. came on, he seemed to sup towards the edge 'of tho chair,1 and Ilia legs were atrai^lit out, so "ail to"be in the way. „ ' " ' ' ' Was he undressed—had'he, shoes on?—I 'tie not know, Indeed. At any mie, they wore,!!!^ my way, and I had to bo at his s^dis.' »''"*■ ion uiu not <x*miut» wa-tner bti* feet mtxv rigid or not? — I dnJ u»t uossrve wd tint n alt. "" 'Do rein, thiuk yon h»ve m«!ntian«d ?v«ry «y»np>| torn yua nbKnfei ia th*t cmh l—l <htnlc Ih«re. 1 When the lim m were pratru lid nod were ki-ptt straight, did you ob*erro thaqon^rio^ at t&w tlmet-V««.1 '' ' ; J h ; At'ih*'reqnßSt of Mr Smith' the, wltm«ll • hawed kba O-urt ha eharMtcr ot lias tnmaT^ib motion «f(b» limb*, :" , : Tut* -mm exactly wfctf y«i obamvtA t ?-Soninfe« timMtlunvwauu*. AitalTaaiaiuwoiti.bssl^Jl :■' -: 11 ■.• .- ' ? , ,~. <.' . 1 I'1 *'l >

• genem'-wii.it-BtW'tbe qaJr&risgto wnicb,,! ttlrlrttO, ''- ll /TandewUnovou io Myth&tyon Jw,T*osfc seen one ewe of tettna», »od that »ai tniun&li* t —jir»mnati<?. What dtd it arias frcni?—\n injur? ©t tho •pice. A man fell cut ol a balloon, and received anltjmyof the suiue. Ho w«s pitting eotae antic* fa the car. and fell nut. I bat r'CDt to be an i sir uctive case. T have been under the impression that that Itind of tetanus culy arose from c*»a* which t^e deriv ition of the came indicate*, a cut, s-v, from a iroumi* 1 —I <?o not r-n»*! jatwr < th»t tHero wa« n.woui,d. Be fell and injured h'ms If, but the ejmpicißs did not appear for three or four daju Did you attend bim ? ~Ho was lo hoi'pitat at tbe time ' It was tbtee or tour flays before synjp'cms set in. He (tied f Ota it Ito not ie meant er anything beyond there wns tetanus fr in the iDJ-iry, and tbat be tiled.' Be hud amis sions.By the Judge: You woald itiil call It lit trap-" tnatii- ♦-- U-doubted'y. By Mr Smith: Because it urines from an <»> terail (• Jury * —From external ii juryBy tho JuiJ.e : Not a pnnmy disease ?—^fot by p<-irn»ry •' rente. By Mr Smith : Although your experience i« ho limited—aliow nietoa»k from the re Kilts of your reacting, nreyon not disposed to say that the rapidity with, which natural tetanus, either tdiopAthic or traumatic, would supervene ttjktu an injury, vronM be in proportion to tho seventj' of the injury? No ; by no menus. Wliy * -Bccau.se hvto researches have rendered it almost certain, on these case* of traumatic totanun, a poison it prepared .it the scaf, of tho wound that requires koiuo day? l)eforo it ciin wl on the spiaal conl. Whoso opinion is that? —Simpson, of Edinburgh. "■ What reason have you for entertaining it. Is it simply becaiit>e you hold Dr Simpson 1" belief ? I think I tun in order, your Honor. Tho Judge : Yes, but ho in only giving his toport from books. Wiiero a person vrho lus Kocn'a. groat number of cases, it ih competent for you to auk him whether they agree or do not agree with its * accuracy, but where a witti s*t aJnrtntthe has never seen any c-we, tho intention of questioning him from books in to test tho accuracy of his information. > Mr Smith : I submit that it is competent Tor me to auk and expect his opinions faom works which hohiwrwu], what ho thinkis of thorn. Tho Judge: I have some doubtn. Mr Smith: Othor gentlemen have given I,ho results of their raiding, your Honor, but l)r ETocken it> the first who ban given evidence vho has witnessed death from strychnine. TUu Ju>tjf. 'J. 1 eoi.ly iiiohvcaie.co mthat I *btt)\ be obliged 'o tell the- jury the opinion. Mr *-mi h: Va-y we 1, ire will dismiss Dr Slmpvtn and life theories By Mr eimtti: owiv-r, if thufc is ytmr oplnion, howvtr formed, t'lat n eve of dej.th Irom te'anns i« from a virus form") at the tent of the injaiy. willytu Rive ana»on fir the faith th*t l* in you 1 I will guppotse the Injury Is a cat from n knife ttnei is cnlting brcai, what generates tbe potioti I—lt is impo»sib'e to my ax jirotent. vr Smith :Itfr a mere random theory, and we wil'Hltmls' it. The Judge: I have nnt taken it down. By Mr Smith: 1 did not know yon tnedle.il men were no fppoulwive? -It is mons than a theory, very much more. It is not absolutely i ct-rfain. By the Jadgc: Have you experimeiUid oa t*'i» ve'y point T to joa mpposejoa have proved b\ your own experiment that it ia owing tto a ipojfac viru*? -I have not. By Mr mlth : A (treat man* oid theories Jia*e been i i<en up as the bonmlf rica of s:ic.nce liavc b*en enlarged I—A great many. My friend anheii »ou this qnrstior : ''fsthero anjtiinar whirl) t-fcowrd a oiOer. nco between (ho ojuiptorafi desfriHed by Mis- Jtrv-y »b havinj; been exhibited by her mother, nnd thoas ot truamnuc tetunnsi" to which I nmleritood ynn toftiiawer: "No difference wh-n the Irsumauc retJtnus ia fully rtrve!ope'l'"!~JH toljy tleielou'd. I qufsiioi) much whether yoo can (listing atgli them from the »ymptom< when fully developed Be i fere it, of 'none joa coa d. ' Yon were oiked to point oct wbot yoa it'llrififTcd to be, o- as I understood, th« lea inn iliktinftinD between temnioisyriiptoinsaribln,.' iidiii natural causes am! Hiose arikiug from poiaou iir )>y gtrychnlQD, and T unAetßtmh you tr> My in your opinion it »quired a linger time for tic n-ttarnl disrate lo ternitnnte fntall> 1 -Yes; and a'lo a longer lime lor the dLwaee V> be tievclopeH. It won'd rfqnire a lotjfwr time }—^ eg, it etime* oneofiialy: Bnta Bpaira of tbe jaw, and tbtii the otber g^raporns foilovr. Are yu of the opinion r>f T>r Hu me rejrixrdion tbe uvgro riylng fn a rjatrter of nn houl', or is It an idie Ul I—t cerfUuiy helieve it I Yoa Mrs acquainted with ** Cooper's Vftffe M*l cam," and •' i)rai'i's Sargeou'H Vade Meoum " •ftese are two booki in considerable aw m<h students in bo-pttnl», and compiled by moa if biib rrpuie 1 tt'» th*y are. Not ouly of hl«li piofeMiinaf emioonfti', bat of bitch standing as reuan<s character. »ho wi>n'd not put anything into their books wblob tbry bad not aseertainfil o' prove«i ?- -' have no d<m'>t ih»< eves are copied from one book t<> anotner, and if Cooper were asked he would say be dtid nC, believe it After haying put it in his hoik ?—I dore'ajr be would. Li tbat the way in whi -h sn author who multe* n pcwitjte "t^tement it to be »poken ofi Jf you were wn'jng a work, anil thought in nece*a-try. altli regard to ttaib, t • sate whit yoa know on » e»rLala' »uVj-et; suppoie yoa ha 4 n favoiito theory. a«« cert'iin causes were opposed to that theory, wnnld yoa not feel bound to little th>it yoa refuted them, bat did not bcliero them?— Ye*. Would yoa not put St in tills way-I report thexe ewe* ; but where a person of hia character pats down a tliin<r without sftyin? '" i take leave to doubt it," what i% the inference then t-In ihttcasahe make* no distillation In patting it down. Mbonld be not do it ? -N6; b*cin«e toe matter Kof no importance to far as tbe disease ia «»t>cerued. tint is it not ol importanca to stato fails ? — Yes. 1 -In a scientific roint of vi»w, it may be of no practical aw batwbysboad b? pat it di)wn in thai slip «i>od sort of wav ' -Ha girea it w a tutf-er coptnt front another !x> Wliy do you «ay bo 2 'You sets what this man Bay*- hear what ho toys. What I waiotyow U> Niy is whether this man notes this c se atone 111 it is said to occur, and one which he does net believe (The counsel re id on extract alnady quoted, referring to the tcrminatioa <sf teUnus urfatnf froni wound*.) You see he sllates that cases of dentil ia 24 hours are by bo means kmcommoa t-~h belseTe it. i Tliera is reference to a footnote from JUes'n Eucyelopajlta^ircicle "Tetanm." IttiUo infers toonecium especially, which rclcto thct death of a negro which took place in.a quarter ,of an hour from tetanus?—-I can oolat oat in modern works of authors of great credit, who altogether doubted that such & cose ever occurred. * > ' I wiil> am you thi*, ijuppoaing a wontaa & pregnant, and undergoes the violent exertion which the chopping of wood involves, is it not quite-powlble that some natural lesion pr injury may take place wbioh would produce ttlaausT—i do not consider it possible that she could reotfre such aa. injury as to produce tetanus. , ) By the Judge: Tiiat iy,;such An Internal fajury I—Such an internal injury. . ' ." Of coarse, if »ha cboppert her toe off It might io w f—Yes. / , -if By Mr Smith: Or got a splinter of wood under th,,nail I —Ob yes; butl don't sefiaf to tiiuwe cases. ",'.'' '' 1[ \ovl have *alk ftccordlaet') your trxpeiil atse bjtrt«ria>is * Tery f- ramoa, dteonlor, and ihtt* n< ver .Hrr'uiosted fatally % -Yea, accurtliujf V> my experleaee. ,(-,..* ] .. > Wh«t I.want to Mk pit 1* that fon deny the ponibilitr of stiim'ttum being ao c<jm|»lete>7 »v*- , pendeii tbat no ««u of life tsdi ooT«*tde, *} all twn« npoa * aumrj eaaunutatiatti-I Ulktw ntftousory wuuJsUtoa." '>. ; '< \! Werayou in Uoartwjbea Pr. Hwdy«»T(fhM •ii/ i i ,x | , ~,^ n <•* j, < p-• -' ' • ~ r ~ t , ft} , , .'.',/- 'J '. ._ 1,

rvM»»w. Wba» k'nd of ex»m:nsiion ii<» yoaf' twtiev* ba m*dot—a perfectly proper one'ln tKtt case. ' . I urn not impawn* bi»me to Dr Hardy. r ß* acted BCcoTdinß to his btllef, bat mrj^ftreltabl* in err?—E think lie wade arofitderit «xetainar tion. let vs gci) whtthsr be did or not. ,T relher doubt It. What ia venr ts»<fer»tai»3Sntr on tber itiathri—l onderstood' be came imo tbe room, and on comma i&io tie mom t>o p>iced hfe Itandt over tbe lieMt, and certainly did mt *prcUy a further aytnptomof deitli ibm the esscjition of •he beating of tbe heart. He paid noiuiaewaft to he if<-It, and there wax no action of the t>K»rt> Did_ tmi obsrt-ve aoyhintt sbout the tnanner in which he perform'd that fseniixiauon?—He slipped b>a band down on the rhest. Anytbinir H-pI JNcthlng txcept that it waai above tbe ehetnite. So th«t there was sem* textile matsijil bttvreen bi« hand xnd the hom»n fl-«li 1 Yen Tbe nff?iiraptlon I ran'ne is that aninsntian if sn suspended. Do you apiw with »r Hulrae 5a laughing at the case recorded by Vwulius of s way who mfjjht have been bnnml alive bod it not been for the devoted affection of her husband. I hope you do n t. Cer oin it b that collapse, sometimes occurs. (The counsel read the ease^ whirh has been olready quoted in report of Dr Hulmcs examination.) J)o you beiieve it? Yes, quite-. •• rtiifl respiration wu *c»rce'Y* percptibie; tbe heart could hardly be felt to beat, the pulse was ntarfy gone at the wrist, on') eepecml'y tbe fx'remitlfa were so clammy nnd lifetcs as, to' remind Ftrongty of fatal fi o ling " Ha refwa to> (Upland and Athwell, o»id njrets "sitb t!ißt.pa9-->aee > will t>upi<ose t*>i whb a simtile rase of suKpenricd animation; thatputtationwasß^arcely perceptible, the extr>mities cold and rltmmvj and the bod* bail tbu Rinposrance of a coipse^-do you consider tbat a fnffictpnUy tnrcful ex&mina-' <ion wo< medr> t" discover whe'lier tbe vital! i>pßrk was fled?—lf hi< vexamiun'ion wat confln. dto that, certainly not; but no medicalmsn Confine yourself to wtiat you are raked. X nuked hr Hanty U he maden lurthcirfx»mrastlaß.He arid no, be did. not ronhidrr it nfces-«ety, H« simply placed hfe bend'over tho region of the krnrt, cvtr the niebt drc«B t Tiie Judge: Tbat coupled with thb genenE npcearan«» of death. He B*id "when i went ■bete tbe woman wns apparent'y dead, and that he put hfs hand over tbe region cf the heart, »n I then be was a*k<-d if tbe c were any inter. •cnins Buhilnn<*e, and he aHmlited putting it over tlio chemise. He pa-sed his band ttown the c o he< hut di * nnt r.'innve tho bed clothes so as to ex->nv' o 'be extr»n'l-i'H>. Tho *Witnos : If Mm Jarvey were in thcr statu described that would not l>e Kufficiont. By Mr Smith : Whether that cursory examination w«ro or were not sufficient -Airs Sly Baya a Inigo quantity of blood, I iliire flay aho cx«eg^nitod- but makitig allowance for that, w© find thero was usaturated bed Tho Judge : What nho said w,w the shoot was diocolorad. Then she wis asked tho bisso of the Woody part. £>ho replied, " the sue of a liaV or filio said, it might ho three tim« thatuiw; und that tho blood had erupt cithor through oc ovo- tho cloth on to tho floor. There was a era* iridcrnble quantity of hlood on tho floor. YixiA ofallxho said the cloth wliioli was abotit tlio kizo of a largo towol, Wiis witumtcd. By Air Smith : Supposing: an iri.ition to have boon meroly suiipcnded, and that condition nob to liavo been detected in coniietiuenco of thnfe curxory cxaminaUoiii, wliut would bo tho result' of oponiiiß a vein and leaving it open ?- If alw were drawl tho blood would llow on described. la hysterical syncope tbe hlood would not flow. D» >ou ••ay tbut Nt'coriiltiK >v joui expo lenco? —Ihiveu^ver opened a vein In *yncope. Ka one h«-". If a person Is in ayncopn frnm ft wdingor ntherwlse Ibefyncope i>Vipa tb« ii>w ■ f b ood. The syncope fiom nooriia^—thut is a atoppa^o of the »:<l<m of the bcatti-lhe bears almost entirely stop*. l-rom niiitfn depression?— Ye*. The Judge: tyocope is vulgarly terncd f»fniinsr i By Mr Smiih: On what snt'toriiy do you» i four d yoar ezpcrleni^e V— 1 bnve bad a good u«al i f Mcpmence us c«»»« of *jrL© ()*. Not of hlecdin{< ?— I have not bled a person in." (hat Plate, i want yoar particular pxptriejife, if you have an , of the tffei-t of lil.-pding a |«nion in such a cisf —you bevo none?—l have none; Wit by reß«onl[i(j; I com" at tbat conclusion. ' ' Oh .' rea'&nji %'!- Ye', reafsonintf from Rood <ftlSk What data?—Krom bleeding in other dasea. In the coajroon otses <tf Jnstencal rnmaUap[jo»e it itt tbe Dorvousfjst»m tbat is flffjaied. - It is cuiy theory iiacU>r; you cunhtfo stai*the fact. Mow, m»y not t<U hsr-ti-rin pres-nt the) i *»me eyrnpUttnit as *eiet&\ otber kinds »f asate ' nervous niueawHi—Ye* ii m»y aniioubfenlj i »hum<s the foun of tetanus *o>nettme«?— Yes, I be ievc it will, though I uevrr saw it. A- riffartls puerperal coßvalcnns, tou siythoie c^Dvalslons are ot ti pcuilar rlnirac'er. cfenomiuatrd. to uftc Dr Hulme'e renn, ''cloaio" Hsb th it term Required a conventional hibi amany lartfiriil men, or is it io bid in erprated ac(Mr<fing> M the otlginal tiite* mho. You know ih»tJ'ceb derivation \~-Clonos. It ii.ea"B merely « ri-fiiiar motion, or does it ti^an a peculiar moiiou!—ltegalar reliixsttOßit nml est« unfoDo. Periodic?- P*ri"r)ic, witb very sbort periods.' Now, \ would o^k you to re -oiiect tlitt frama ofi miud in whtch Mis« Jnrvey !iaa told v«, In this Court, slk wan bt the time the I* fuppos-d U* havp observed tbe symptomi exbihtcd by her fnotbc-. Do you r«colli«< what »he aaid on tbnfe -u'j»«i %— I hat* the lrntiresHiqii ot wdst she said. Tho Judge: Tell the witness what you desire to know, i'hero is always great lutitudc allow«t in cross-ftxaeiiiuatioa. By Mr Smith: She said she vim to botvfldert* at the time she did not know what t-ho wns doing—What does tbat mean—She knew what he* mother was doing ?—i think it piisaiblo she might observe hsr mother, tliough unable to command' bcr own thoughts. I will assume she loved her mother. Sac seems.to I c of a sympathetic temperament from tbe occurrence ia that box. Do you not tlilnk her-' mother foiling- down fn & fit w-xa iikely to put her in such a btatc of <d»tra«tiou an to prevent jher observing wllh accuracy '!—l fahould not think, no. I think xt quite possible sho n:i lit observe orerjtbiiig.—l have seen instances of it bciora. Ttie Judge : She docs not dc-tcribe herself m> in. < a fit; hbamy* she was bewildered, and Uid hot know what she wjre doinjr. Sttppusinff that a - perfectly accurate description of her own. condition, would tlml be coaswfceqt with reraeafcbtiiing ttie eyinptomi that posw*l otfore bur eyes* 1 think &o, so long m she vt.as not uncon^cioa*. i!, By .Mr Smitu: Yon dq." I will test yonr * judgment in another way, Tho Judge: That w properly a question f<w the Jury. By Mr Smith : !>r Hwken. cqines, hero aa *. man of weight, audlahouii hkv ( oat cf hi» > own moufcb, to expose tho tiiih&y of, Jtiis pool- ' tion. If I were to ask yoa tocoaio irafnedi*toly i to a friend whose illness presented oerUun symp-i toma which X described. Ybß luul not MmofUv get front mo a correct dlagno»ix of tuedusooae, wadr you know lam not & professional pcrnoa —wookti uot yon make eocsldonible allowance ior my-" description ?—I often Jb&vo to do no. , * < > Nowtliiswactwe where the ifiofiharcf n ghrl has fallen down in a lit, and tbi> girl is oonso-< quentiy 'w^Udemdi—l do not sttiS &sy exuggera.- _ tion in her account, ' lam (speaking ofi's* Btuto of mtnd,—tho 'Bafo*yof trusting the dUstcrfption by % person in-^b«£ Htoteof reiindf—ll'epefttitifujuiixj poswlWrtff.lt' is quite satisfactory to >mo. lluvo *«n Hmol 4 othor cane* as well as in tim. ' t rti Whftt ore tho symptom* you gathcrod frot&' Miss Jarveys statement as eslilbited hybot' mother, I will take them dawis'seriattm? BythoJnclgo: Itoyouord.oyounotrenwwnbc*' .themall?—l thinirlromeiftbertitem. aIL ' * < ib« JudK« to iitr rutiiu- )«a ukunttoWßd ibero, (i«coflcet he <or»ed bl« «piivl»o"wbeo1»1 bcarlj tb* «MUBMt fis&m Ufu /tw«y*» h(». : The Witoe»: t i^siuje-I yemoa'i^r. tbsu»By Mr Dinitu^/iWiMI Th* ititfuen H the toady i«d .fc» »jpe«iy.wrm£naa«i t^t»»««« —bet i»o«clo«*sqk9..Hhe ewsa*lT6 ngWrtn ' X .' ■• -I." ""•.' ■'"."■'■'■ • -.: c.,- ~, '~ ,-•'*■. r -v '^a'y.V-'i 1

ttink,. *Ij* tsMsd the t*t f ui .'— *t»jgbt deva, ymf i* : - 'lij^.fe«»*.■',■■!',;„;" ;■ : J ::"r :i vJ.., *~.[ '-'■yfotiittd-'hrT'nmnr rm t 'lMieiif"yosr fw» Boitinjrrf.lNvfWri. .ftb«tig*it.»« *Uahf -pom ■:So' %&*'*■ fmpti»wsf 't>n.'*'»'»*.- MW«;. ;Wm'M. 'thm* "ihfymt*:'^ ni&tf^'i VipsUlsg fmt ; srriij *tr»ijtlfat: **; r- ■■■■'■'■■■■■■;"■■ "'" •'' ' " j , j .,:, Jbe ■. Jtstlfre nfermi tn hf* nofia» of Mp» 3»r "■»«*■ tfHtvUn' *n& tend Mr 4t*etlpti*>i> of tin iyros*if«t»* ezhhiM by Vr moihtr, onlil lii y«eb*d ihs p***w*"" *l»b:.*,« .**• 'vndmapt lvrft'-tM' •wvmuitmi'bet ttati&fptf of .tt;i .thtml" " Be **M, v"'J*o, ,U»y ~u»ml ,<x»me;..,eifl ' "Bj Mr'Smil]s';'W»t(t *h»t what nsMcd y«o?~Ytt; Ivfan mhsL^tnationi that, '''".'.. \" Vise "Jn-*i»: i ihbk the w'-jMnjr of the »>mi vw,'on'tbe foittntt tfCemjon, in Cunabsiliiid 1 ' By1 Mrfmitb ; After hsvlnK hwfi Uieers^erw Ttaa,&o i*-it Kiafee n»y ''iffreiicie Jn the *x>um»ntlob'ef'he *•> tbptoat*,■?—r-be wastlrnigli't ia th« btd. '' . . ,'.'.•■.■ ■'■ >viv7o"M ««t that be coropri*?*! in exe&mm rJfH»Tt— y«».Jt|«. ■.. .... "■ ■;"■ By Mr fmtih: Another o;i(V*~— n f}n*^>ou*rii^*. I. do pot kfow wliefh-r I BitDiioncd iho reni.lt> iioRM frrm tht'*p**i»r —the wjtiii fif'nir. :• i The Jodiei': Tlit're !■> Mm \ art I. ;lfd not c-mc to—hi-r mot lit r *ra!d. ifo 'no\ touch me I—l yi** about V> tn*ntfon (lint.. : lif Mr S?0»?tb : V«?'?—-"h» ertnptaiat of 'wsht of air irri'i tbe touihitiy )>er, ciu*lug the &b* »be yrone, r"lurtan«« to bfintrtoucicd., '■, The JtifJ^e : I hate put it iJown serniitlvcaws en Wng t' uoh»"; l ' " . . - By Mr (""mith : Acy otter a; mptom t— I do not thi- k of noy o'hT.. 'Jlio»o nyntptom* you ax tract from the description given by a. person.who «.ty«, she,was Ijtaide hunmU nt tlio liwo uhe profosmsc. to have olBerved them. I bcllovo that you have a better opportunity of forming an opinion, of tho .catwo of death than that <su> give you. You saw tho Itody beforo burial ?—1 did, but virtually not, for J. nuuio no.oxatnioation. By the Judge: When did you ikhj tho body? —I think, on tho morning of tho burial, on the 28th J think itwori, fmt I madfl no aotiia! cxiiiiiimttion of it. By Mr Smith : Will you rolato why you: »aw the Wly t—From iniforrnatiou I received, I wont on the morning of tho 28th to Cavcrsham, accompanied hy; Inspector Morton, to iu(£iiire a« to Mr« Jarvey« death. On »iy wa7 I met J>r Hardy, who told me hfijbnd been called on the previous evening to sco lira Jarvey. He reputed what ho ativtod two «lav» ago—when ho got there blio wa» ilntd, tie told me a» Coroner that ha had no siwpiciurt of foul play ; that »ho died from fits, to whicli who was subject. I then first Rpokts to Mii>» Jarvey. Ido not, of course, j remcmijcr the exact convcnsntjon wo hiid, but | nho told me there were no groundis for suspicion; j that her mother had been subject toflU,.andsho i beliovcd this wa» ono of them of which «he diod ; j that her father and mother always lived on good ; terms. I thon went to Captain Jarvey's Ijouho and saw .him. 110 took wo up-Btairtt to tho i room in which his wife* waa lying, nnd wikl »ha died of iifitaiiighfc arid a day Wore. I then gave* a certificate for her burial. I then returned io town. I think I havtj juiid I saw tho body, but did observe it critically. . By Mr Smith: When you saw Dr Hardy bo gave you his Account of wlint lie knew or Uio j death and Ihn cauw of it. Did he stay nbout wlwt time,, according1 to his knowledgf, the death happened i —l do not remember he did. . 1)1(1 you remember that from Miss Jarvey I —l do not remember. Were you aware at that time that the death had teen middeu ?—I supposed tho circumstance* were somewhat suspicious. I forget whut they; were, but tho police were informed of the suddenness of herdenUi. You were tiwure thnt her death was looked upon as sudden %~? Yes, I forget tho particulars ofit. A sudden death arjdnjr from fita ?—Yes 1 And that appeared n ratioiinl explanation in you nt Iho time?-A rational explanation, much so that you did not think it necessary to institute the ordinaly Coroner's inquest?—ol no, no. : You say that the prisoner look yon up to the room where you wiw the body, but did I understand you to aay you did not examine it at all ?— I do not remember that I examined it at all. I will endeavor to refresh your recollection. Bo you remember lapping the stomach '! —No, I do not. Do you recollect asking him how the doctors used to treat her in Tuamnuia 1— No, I don't. Wsa.the corpse [u'ioovtred for your view?—l saw the (nt'.e. Whnt expression hail it 1 —It bad n placid onn. There was nothing at all of what one of »h« wisnetfa hat cail- d I'isforiion. There whs tsotliinit of that sort ofdrnwn n-d di'tortol or fiitihifuMooking a«pect I —No, nothing r>f that suit. I would a*W you from your experience n« n medicnl nuin if ti»e or »*x hours aMor death the corpse has become Html and ih« features of the face not with a flx»-d puinfuliy drawn terriftVd exprcublon, in it nt nil Hk<ly tititt ihn next inomincr tho«e featnrea wou!cl n^doni > a pkcid cxpresniox, "{ —They would retax andfnibterily. Bj the Judse : It would lw S6 hours after?— It was then nhout fwcli/c n'Awk, ' muppmo. That wouM be about 30 or 37 hours nficrwArds J —I think that in Bp.Hfni<xlic rigidity of the muscles, that distorllon would pa^s uwf.y In tint timn. .By Mr Pmith : I)r>w nnt fhnt involve the nnsumpiion thntri«'ath has t'iken placo from natar-il osnsesT—The pUoid cxpKMiion, no, Itd>«inof often huppbn even when a p<?Tnnii hos died of convuluivo fl's. when the (aw* is more dHorted tfann In any oiher ow, that the features do not rel-ix after that period. By the Jtttitre: I bnlievp gcnernlly after death the teataifa ar« plnrtii! "I — Ypb, jtcnersUv, The other ciwn are tbe exception)- ?—There are exceptional enses. By Mr Smith : WouW you not erpect that thin wemul he an excprtlrntl wn, conki'ioj««r we rieility,;which charnctTisfn denth )>y poi*oninir. Would yoa n*-texnect afix-H o'-irMVivexpression of the fentufil!" nfrer death?—l sU'inll not. hecause th» iwMitv pww otj ni't«T a few houre, and tbe mascle^ become rgs'n relaxed. By the Ja»*ge: What yon havi *ii'l Fs this. In a nntarsl nntl heMtby bodj. if we mny l>e allowed th-5 expres ion, the nuidity apt* In "ooti' after death, nnil then a curtain time aff«rwsrd» there it a r^lnx itinn ng^tin, but you hive a'-o said that ia the ca»e of pur«on)i poi-on <l by strychnine the i-lgMi'y coutinuj-i longer ?—I Oo not remoiaberstyinesn. By Mr Smlih: Do you wW\ t^ unsay that ? — I do not think I s«M the rtaHity -w^.s raire intense—'" exwnive," I beiisve. wiw tlia term ■ us«a~or nnv longer, for I believe ta strychnine poifloninir it posse!) off more rapitliy thaa in a sift'ural diJitli. la that not contrary to the received opinl'm amone iho?e whp profess to bo acquainted with the post mortem symptoms »f strvhninn'P 'Zoning". Do they mit Rsanrt the rigor uwrtix nontinmes loDger than when death is natural T—l believe so, . ; Do you consider thir'y six henrs after death a very long time for it to continue '/—No, I di not Uii'lottbtedty the ordinnry rigidity continues a loncer timo. l ; In not MUiller <son«ide*e(l a flrat-rate physiologist ?—sf«i. The statements be m»kes are to be tro<ited. The Jalge: He &<ks not differ from th.*t, does he! By Mr Smith : Hp eayi the OTdintrrr rigMity continues thirty .mix hours in dc«ti from natural eanses. How Ions; after death from jwaonins 1 — t r C'lonot wy Irptn f jipTif-rce, exwpt by >-xperisnee on ftiimuls, I cmoot give an opinion ofitnt all. I know ianniißilß therlgiJiry pa«ra s off quickly. I askjrou wholh^jr the^B opinions are eniltled to weltthti—Wj- Inve ii writt-n that the post mortem sy m ptotmof at r j eh nine poiwnia tr con ti uue loager tbiin in dßath from natural came*?—! think thej soy the period varies. By tho Jtt lg» : I« it nit to all paa»i of stifinesa from tetnrtns, tbat ft i» of lone-r duration than from other raoics t—lt f« »o, I believe. By Mr Smith; Afcnny ruin you hfliovo that? •-I do not believe it from expsrfmeuts, but from What I gnthrr from olfi"*r men ti ba trusted. Taking that to bo the z-%i that ttioii^i iitj which in rharantcrMEa of ftrjehninc poi-oniug dues continue rnuoh lonKeraftTdeath m ord nary rasea, in it not htgb'y probable Ii the fsce hsd iho drawn painful terriflpd exp«-«ioa described by ona of the witnesses four or five hours after dpatb, that that expressfoa wouH-havn contlsoral 36he«r», and conaWaahly (bejoad it,, according to otbsr penons 1- Gtpalwx !~raking ttuU*t en aesuinp-

Jfo.it, ,-Jj, frboold mappoM ,ibo mottJw of ihe fee« ;; ; :*K^'^.7^vW,M^J»r)f«!ir.:^-;..,11«i|to^i (tten?-~B;was"»t"k; giroc*y»;*hbj>;, or.'-* stop of .. .1 Xto. y«n. know, 1 umh I—J . have ■ ,«m ' junti ?JBe": is^tie»t;: ; ~:•.,''■""• ''"■'.:. '".■.■' ' .'.;r ■/',,.;, i;i.;v^.::i ■ r'J K'kd':':joa"tecii' Mm,«Jf«ra?.rloe*BwloiJ* •»s■:! teferetoe J»..thl» roaUer?—Vio. I bad'.n'pfc: V : . y ;-'::;: At lbs intine*t t!o you rccjllect wiint his deißwioaf Wi-j_y«*. ■•; ; *■ ■• •. : .;, ; "'r■ V:'''-. V v<;••:: ;'V.Wj3o!r llwiM:itf-~X tedly ksew'tfhit-', terra. 4o iprrfjr <<>it. :•■":■■ ,■. ■' ■■■; ,,■.;,'■ ;.:.,xi;Vi .■- - Wat'Jt not. very'obirwiife.?' h* in»fcifea on fcJr frSc'erxie lifiinir taken riown, and inaUtec It <»*" good «rf»lence?—'He<Ji<l;*U thar... ,:'.";'.,'>-• -..>.-.;": " , Tttait *>ti id ttik :lf«r not taking flows his e*M«cs:?—Yes,.liediaV,-;.'.;' '' . r.-.'. '~:■ ■<;■■:-'. :'•:; Hfcw'iD.fiy tit-Sen before the Inquest had'you ba<! lni«itT!«wi with Bile* /errey?—9nooo«)y. i , s Wb^ewat that 1~-At the Police Bta»ion. WlMtwii»pw«e»ti7->Jr Btaniffso part of the <hne tl« Jfftifae rcm, as bo hail to go oat, and I ww»j*'ooe witblier. , ~.■ ' ■..•;■., :< - TmX uiif)cr)itfi»d rilie hid made a statement to Mr h'mufcml— Yw, And y»a onfpzv'rod she bad repeated that BtoS»ni'«t toyut— Yes. . ; . •-, . ■ ■ ;•' Wtl jkm pat qn»jiiocs lo ber ?—Yes. Id trie n;me trjte as at the Coroner's inquest ?— May 1 give you »n account of whstptneo. ! watii t» know jfjwur" style and manner were ill* same a» I observed at iha inqacjt?—ldon't know what you pl«flrv*d.' \ ■, Y<tu understand what a leading qoettioa is; when n /iusseittinn of nu Idea to Riven to a witness 1 auk you did nr>t jfru pat.jour atM»tiozw in nucb a way Mb) lusrgist An idea?—l did n<t- I em a] way» careful tf that. . Ijj » y<m not lake k pen fa yorir hand And a«k Miss Janey, "Wns th*} body b?nl «o"? back W4nf*"-tbp'li**d AtM the heel* drawn together backward**—l thfnk I did at the inquest. !>t<i you ink this question, ** Was there bb.v. burning of the throat** 1. pointing to your ttircmr 1 — I tin not. know whether I jKifntei- lam quite iiu «jI()W not omit foa*k that question. Ido ».ot know'wb^her I A^cen Its? directly. Are you prepared toitayyoudid not?— Noono beard—lsay i did not dictate tho replica, ~.'.",, Tho.7udj{a: Xhai wai not tho qucstioa; tho fltifniion was, did not you put tho question in such a form as to lead the replies. By Mr Smith; Jv lending question from you on Coroner has rnoro woight iban from another, man ?—-Quito «o, ,' Tbo .Jmlgo :!have put;down, "I put to tho 'witne«M Ic.-vjing-. qucittiona; I asked questions wlijcli womld suggest replicn." ■; By Mr Smith: Leading questions?— You ore* doing me an iajustico, Sir Smith. I only wish to arrive at tho truth. You arc not (i lawyer, and not always on your guard, and in your office as a Coroner, you did put leading (juestioDsi? , . ~; The Ju;dgo; It ix often tho nuio with coronoia &nJ magiatnitcj* too ; but it is of Httlo importtinco. You are now I>jsro before a Court that known how to admit evidence. Mr Smith : I bog you to understand I did not chai-ge you with injujitico ftt all. I only say it wuh tho unfortunate accident of putting such a question 'that suggested that answer? —l .should like to make a Htatemcnt; it is this—before I raw lljm .Jarvoy. at tho Police Barrack, Mr Branigan cnino to me, and asked if I rememberod tho case cf Mrs Jnrvoy's death at Cavcrxham two Tnontlu Wforo: and ho said, "The daughter has Iwjm to mo itnd mentioned such and such syjnp- ' tUinti," . . ...... .. . . ;-..;. ,' Mr ?m[th: I say. Mr Ho<:ken, Ido not accuse you of tho slightest intcntianftl injustice. We all know it may be done Incautiously and unini- teritionally. ~ Br Maiadam rc-callcd. By the Jury: Would brandy and wntcr in Ktrychiiim; or quinine cause the color red to bo developed ?—No. Hipiposiug n pcrsion to die suddenly, do you consider it sufficient for the surgeon to place his .-hand over the region of Uio heart, above the chomlse; or in other words, do you not think it fa necessary *hnt the person of a doctor should place ii;N enr ovisr the repion of tho heart after he had exmnincd the body ?—1 do. You consider it necessary ?—He should lay his car over the .'region of the heart. • If he had a stethoscope it would be better; but in the absence of that he ought certainly to put his car upon, the chi'st and listen. . • ■ ; • .■ . ; Br Hockeu re-callcJ. ■;,■'•. By the Jury: When you saw Cnptoia Jarvey did he inform you he had Riven Mrs Jarvey nny- ; tbinp llir nijrht of her death I —l do not remember (lint ho did so. By Mr Smith ' Did you askhiin?—l did not rck iiiut, that I remeiabor. By tlicj Itiry: Would two or four grains of i/dniuc, if naministorod,. cause any injuriouK fji'ocit upon a woman if ffiven at one timo ?—I do not think 20 grains would. Would quinine if administered, cause any. of tlio ByinptomH described by Miss Janrey ?—None. liy Mr Prendergast: You lmvo bceti asked by Mr Smith, about your liuo of examination at tho inquest—was there not a legal gentleman attending on behalf of Captain Jarvey?- Mr Smith attended/ ■ .•■■■.■. Dirt ho take any legal objections to tho form, of the questions you put to Mian Jarvey ?—Not to those questions. There is another question—l do not know whether I ought to uutiior not—that is tho quuH&km about the peu—what was the annwer tn 'liiit question?—bbe said her mother's body was not arched like that. By )lie Jury: You bare had oaeciwo nf stryohniu»- tcntiuf—was there any mooning during the tlffif-?—No there wan not. Wor there any crjiocr out?—No, he did notcry j out at, all He spike during the ioterraU of tet»nup, and then rcl'ipsed. I JnmesHly: I live at Caversbatn and am a ii'ore keener. On the nfftht of the 26th Beo-t-niher, I went wi'h my wile to tho bon-e of the t»ri«Ofior. at lib rrqut»t. I saw him, h'# vvif*-, MrsXumb, the'daughter, and three children. I «■»« down «t»ir-i with the prisoner, surf had a convcrjatioii with him. After n time, I went up stiitK, and the priaoncr followed me. Thst w.n «j nenr sr possible nbont half part twelve We went to the room where the body;mi lyincv I wa« called up by ray wife ; a«d when I got into the room, the prisoner being close to me, «n) my wil> iifimr at the end of the bed, my wife iuik"-ri mit to Joolc at tbe corps'* and see If I nwaiiyihinar articular in its appearance. I Jookeil for -fome mlrute or two and said ''Yea;" ahoaalV " What;" ami I slid, " There i« somfthinc about th£ fe'i'nrea I never uaw about a corpse T>efore." fibft a*kcdl me " How;" and 1 said, the feature were drawn, and there waa n diwolorallon round tlr> mou h and under tlie eyes, such as I ha! never ...*ecn before. She 'anid, that' wan her opinion- The; prlconer went-towards, the b*d, to do something. X doa't know; what; bn.t I rnq iwted him to leave the room, and I got him out, rout the door, and went down stains. I hive seen a pre»t many dead bodies, indeed. Th-re - wns decidedly a difference in this one frcm anything I ever before saw. On the fallowing mnrninsr, the first thing I did was to uptak to ih*'polino;11 mean, to Constable Carter, I Tinuer saw. such discoloration of tbe face before. About nine o'clock, I saw tbe prisoner, atd lo requested me to go (o town with him rßMpeciinir the faneral. Previous to going with hfeul t^lfS him I thought it would be quite n*oaf»»iv 'to hive an inquest. He said, "Oh ! for Gad* cake ! don't hurt my feelings so." 3fMr Smith: Certainly if n«essiry, I would <Teinan<) on inqucar on my wife's body. If ehe di«»l rudrienly I would have one. TtreJurlse: If you do not behave yourself, I aball bs oWigpd to »>nd yon for 24 hours to a neighboring house. You are here to antwer questions : r.n>wer them properly. Th« Wimew: Certainly; v yonr Honor, out of mnect tnwarda the Court. Crns4.fixaminatton continued: When he said tt won'd hurt his f«llngs,'l prepared to go to town with the prisoner; and 1 went with htm, in n friendly way, to the undertaker's, in George ntfet. Then we went to l»ater«m«, where the pri-oner ordered wine end spirits for the funeral. I Am- partake of them. After stopping up till midnight, I should require F.oma refreshment. • :\lr Sirallh: Oh! certainly:• the laborer is worthy of bin Mrc, I suppose. 7 ' Oro's-f xaroinstion continued: I left the prison t at fats house, and returned that evening ro sco !»ow his family was going; on. I did condole wil,h him, and T had a glass of wfne. Yes, as I hare mbi, I did think an snqs.e»t ehoald be held. My reasons tor thinking that were that she b&i been washing in the afternoon, and was seen at seven iind heard at eight o'clock by my son.

;. s C^«^|»fa^tioj»:,I,(go*|npdl|,ji';¥M1,(go*|npd l |,ji';¥M f' r lj^iK::'<wp^ s »;fej%. emplovn^iuix:;, $ r;jW9HPrriMM'iW ■ 'P*'' - ' ■ •wSiv- ■ ,«a Jff (Tj,..: .-of l:;i^fl^v" l ,*Miff«i|tWfl ; - l ~;;p| :-,.: l ihii,j; : Hit; ( l<Ji.i,..1' Coroner, : X ara sure #ho said thut hm- ttvthor, mid some'; circumstance ■ oa:crri»l m Cumborlaud - :' street.'. Hlie did inakc that qualifiestiop.. It waa {» my P'lrfor > and lam certain nho did rt-for t-j a pcritHl whejx her fathw and i-;nth<jr. had ,uot Iwonou good tcroi*. She tneationed naiU "eonid .recent oixsusioo;" E will not be positive aboutCarab<rbnd street, - but I thought, that was what sho HMstuit, > 146n'tfkitosr why I twought j no. I.djVJ t-iko.notice of what ptt.««di; you neoi not anJc nto ngiiin,. I know tbiit J, did taku notices YeM,-.wiy ; memoryJj»«jaito;.fnßJih Bowi,< Showiid that her father and mother lived on good tonua until retienily. Tothe te*"t of mf< knowledgo nnd belief, she; did aaiao Cumbcrlaiid «ti-eefc, but I will »ot awear:to it; i I ilon't;• remeaibcr that tho Coroner nuide, any, wsplyj to that remark of liiiw jTarvey's; he ujipiiarco•?. to bo mih&cd-r-l could not tell what he thought. Ho went out, and I npoko to him, tolling him to look at tho corjiso Eind cxaniim? the discoloration on tlio i>tca%L <Wlmi ho had got to tho ccritro of tho loan, I .eailMl-; JTnw mr- <ipo>-,..;*;,, H»o ■<«-*",i>.'Hi*V tnrneJ aiid.wiid, *• What, is it?'! I -miff,; *• Kx>; nmine tbe corpse, nmt :t-m-.i*Mte'eh not a ra'aik or violence on Ihe Jeft .bwait." Thf« wsa in tbe prfft-oce of. lii'F'CUr Morton who was with tt>e Coroner: boih. of them lurried, ari't .'ttaU'trontt! »airf,:.** Very well," and i wslkcl down the road. toward* ibe houses I wait not then aware tf nt be bad visitcid the prißoner'ji Iboase. It aiisbl ho 60 lo SO y.Vijn Jrom usy hnune, : I did not witch to Me whctticr the Coroner wunt to tb« house. I hat\';*.gt.md <3««l of iralion to ba cuHvn* 1 vi-tl«d. the prisoner's hou=o tigato, «al ,had a conversation with the prisoner in bis privaie twrlor. ,-l wmtt :to. tbefnnewl. ,1 weutlo ihe bouteontie more, »nd then I dH not no asnin. I did act; so again <tftar tb«,:very ,dfty> of »he i t riW ootgi> btc*u«e of hucondus*. Idid njt »ny anything t«i Jbe peiiico txcept to Coustnble Carter, just a(L»!r the dentla. ■: I «btak that when 0 mnn u»s frequent nVur.in his i-h^p, itiqawU ouMht ro l» JieW. .Beiam I came i here. I w«« in Timrriaot* asyoußro weil(»«arft I waaadrapßr. and Iwasa boot and shoe wjJler in Hoba t Towo. lly pjaei) was twioi btarned down—by Br*» that comAiepeed. in my neighborhood., not in my p'oc.. I.ffiu burnea out and luinfd. ■ • Ro-oxatnin«l: '■ One of tho fires commenced three or four doors from mypldco, and the other eight; or nine doom off. There are plentr . in Court ihat umicMtund the whole matter. ; By the Fdreman 'i No firfe commenced in my place; and there • were never such insinuations'canton mis before. •■ ■'■' ■'•-:■ ■ Willintti Ilobeft-Mitchell: lam manager for Cohb and" Co, coach proprietors. ■ 1 - know" the' prinoncr. ■At tho latter etid of Au^usi,'T camo up on the coach from Warkouaiti. Tsee 31argtirot Little here. ' Sho vraa a passenger by tho coach. I saw the prisoner on the auival of the coach in Dunodin. lam not sure whether it was at half-past two or half-past «te—whether oa Wedmesdivy or ThuWday.■"•:, The prisoner handed Miss Little out of the coach. I did not; see. whore'ho went, or where she went.1 A cab was either called or pausing:, and they Went' towards it, but there was a crowd gathering, and 1 did not sec more. : ■ -i : By the'Judge:!'do not, your Honor, watch whnfc all our passengers do. ; J'-i : J William Dutliie: I am n confectioner, anrl live in George street;' I know the prisoner iand Mar-1 guret Little, I have known her 16 to 18 months . She has been In the habit of coming* to my shop, off and on, during tho '>'whole' bf; that1 time, to ; make purchases The prfemer has often come to; my shop; the'firet thing was, he subpoenaed mo as a witness for him In a case.: He was there several times when Margaret Li.tie was there; they! conversed together -we ali joined in togetlier. Oft one orcasiontliey left the s!ion: together J'to the beat of.my-belief tha-» ouly tjopperied once, the has said tliat she came to wait for ii friend. ' The Judge: No; I think that what she choosef to state In a shop In not cvi lencn. ■ : Exnnilniition continue!: Wien they left the : shop together, I think it was after ten o'clock fn the'evening; ■ -■ ■ ■•■. • ■ ■■■.••"•'•.■■■.!■■•' >.1-1'1 r By Mr Smith; It was after ten o'clock when they left.' "•■ I could not my -hnw manytimea they were at the shop together. '"¥•»,' l am sure it was more than five, but I don't thiak1 it wa<» forty. .He came.to see me often: he knew my wife well; hb wife and mine were playinat^s together. Oh! God blesayou. no; it was nothing extraonlinnry his beinc: 'at my shaft.; We used to t Ik of old times; for we came from 'the same place. We used to have a glass occasionally—not in n little back parlor, but in my workshop, nothing more. I could find a glass for you, I have no doubt; butyou ntiver call, Mr Smith. ; ■ : ;i < . Mr Preuderga<it said he wished to a«lc Constable I Moliney a question with rwpect t»4hejars. ■•■•: ••" The Judge; Can that b« neceisitry. There has been more care, taken already in traclnpr tho»e jars, and the contents of tho stomach, than I ever "knew, or, l-ead of in a siiaUar caso, whether in France or En. land; •i- .■"*,,.-; ■, ■■■■ ■■v.;-. -; : - • Mr; Prendergnst: Yotir^ Honor will admit that !f we have been careful, the cross-examina-tion ho* alw been very strict^ •' ' ■•■:■'• ■■:■■■■'■ The Judge: It ha«, iind'nropcriy so; I don't wish to stop nnythintr you think neccwary.. : t Maloney was.called, hut he had left the Court; and tlie Judgb «atdi uiat the question could,,be |askfid at njiy time. .!- „ ~ . ■; ,: ; v i The Crown Prosecutor: That will complete the,case for the prosecution. ,■ : . ..*.,. ! Tho Juilpe-: Although It li* only 20 minutes to four o'clock, gentlemen, it U not. right that I should now press Mr Smith to commence hi» .addrcai to you; and, therefore, J propose to adjuui-a until to-morrow.. : , . : ' Tiie Foreman asked that Dr Hanly should Ins re-eillcd; but it nppenred that he had left the Court, and. the Judtce directed Uiat he nhouM be in attendance at the attliai? of tuo Court in the morning, i; ■ .;,.!. ' ,•...■■, '.■.:...■'.'■•.•■ •■..:.■;. ■'.■! Dr Mftcndamwas recalled at the request of a juror (Mr Slcsingc.rt, ,wh asked—You rhave heard -tlife account given -of .tho examination of the body of the deceased, by the meilical 'men called in-: .-Is it,> in. your...'opinion, possible: that' life !BtiU existed at the lime 2r~Dp Macddaiu:. Not having been presoot, I cannot cive an opinion. I can only say, that if a medical man: Ik called .U|»n to fitt'l'tiut,whether: a woman.is alive, or dead, he certainly should place his ear over the region of the client : '..',' /;,,',, /Xhe Jnd«e: One of the medical men djj 'th^t. ; Tlie Court was. adjourned until ten o'clock' this. (Tuesday) morning. "' '" "' V : ; :.',. :V '..:'■.,-''].'..,4 'Illy;

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