PARLIAMENT.

New Zealand Mail, Issue 119, 26 July 1873, Page 3

PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Fbid at, Ju.lt 18. The Speaker took the chair at half-past two. peeliminart business. Several petitions were read, received, and laid upon the table, including a petition for lodger franchise from Wellington, brought up by Mr Pearce. Several notices of motion having been made, a batch of parliamentary papers was laid upon the table. ADDRESS IN REPLY. The SPEAKER announced that he had received intimation from his Excellency that ou Tuesday next at 3 o’clock he would receive the ad -lress in reply. leaye oe absence. On the motion of Mr Richmond, leave of absence was granted to Mr Charles Parker for a week, on the plea of illness. WATER SUPPLY. In reply to Mr O'Conor, Mr RICHARDSON said that from the information at present at the disposal of the Government, they could not say they were prepared to give effect to the recommendations of the Nelson Provincial Council regarding water supply to the goldfields of that province. If m?T? A ITT TPTTV In reply to Mr Stewart, Mr RICHARDSON said that in the first pLce the Government were not aware of any blunders having been committed, the jetty being erected, as far as it had gone, in the best direction it could be ; if not in (he direction first intended. It was only after mature consideration by competent persons that the works had been decided to be carried out as they had been hitherto. As to a measure for amending shipping facilities, the Government did not intend to take any steps beyond what was involved by the present tenders. ELECTORAL QUALIFICATION. Mr O’CONOR asked the Commissioner of Customs whether it is the intention of Government to introduce a bill this session to abolish the existing electoral qualification, and establish in lieu thereof a qualification founded upon manhood suffrage ? Mr REYNOLDS intimated that on Tuesday next the bill, along with others, would be laid upon the table. RAILWAY CARRIAGES. Mr O’CONOR asked the Minister for Public Works whether the Government are importing railway carriages constructed of New Zealand timber, at a cost in excess of what the same could be constructed in the colony P Mr RICHARDSON replied that wherever the hon member had obtaiued his information he was utterly misinformed, as nothing of the kind had occurred. Indeed, he might say (hat the Government had made a point of encouraging local industry and talent in all possible cases. It was in regard to such material as could only be produced in this colony at a loss that it was procured from elsewhere. THE DIEEICULTY OE HEARING. A discussion ensued as to the difficulty of > hearing, in which several members testified to the impossibility of transacting any public business in a satisfactory manner unless the hearing of the chamber was improved; The outcome of the discussion was the information that it had been decided to try the efficacy of several devices until hon members were enabled to hear each other. NEW BILLS. Leave was given to introduce the following bills, which were read a first time : —A Bill to extend the Miners’ Franchise. (Mr O’Conor.) Telegraph Cables Subsidy Agreement Ratification Bill, Civil Service Act Amendment Bill, Permanent Officers Salary Bill, Animals Importation Prohibition Bill, Provincial Councils Powers Bill. (Hen Mr Vogel.) Mr VOGEL, at the desire of Sir J. O. Wilso’n, explained the object of the “ Animals Importation Prohibition Bill” and the reasons which had induced the Government to bring it forward. The idea had been mooted at the Colonial Conference held at Sydney, and at which Mr Vogel and Mr Reynolds were present. Just at that time cattle disease in several forms appeared in various parts of the world ; and the Australian colonies felt that, as a means of protection, they must prohibit the importation of stock from other parts. If New Zealand did not act in concert with the Australian colonies in the matter, she would find herself in an awkward dilemma, It was under these circumstances that the New Zealand representatives telegraphed back as to the course to pursue. Hon members would see by that morning’s telegrams that one of the colonies, acting upon the decision come to at the Conference, had already prohibited the importation of New Zealand stock. The consideration of his excellency’s speech was fixed for next Tuesday. THE RUAPUKE ANNEXATION BILL was read a second time. The House wenq into Committee on THE MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS -WATERWORKS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. Mr LUCKIE moved the introduction of a new clause, with the object of placing the borough of Auckland on the same footing as that of Dunedin in regard to waterworks. Mr Swanson objected. He did not think such a provision would at all fall in with the wishes of the people of Auckland, for he believed that he could interpret their desires in the matter of water supply as well as any man in or out of the province. Mr Bathgate pointed out that the interests of the people of Auckland would not be in any way prejudiced by the introduction of the clause proposed. Mr Buckland protested against the clause being inserted in the bill. Mr Luokie pointed out that the hon member for Newton was ono of those who advocated the right of the Provincial Council to override the wishes of the rate-

payers of the city of Auckland in a purely civil matter —one in which they alone would hare to pay the rates, not the people in the country districts. Mr Swanson said it was not the introduction of water the people objected to, but they wanted something like a well-conceived plan of how the water was to be brought in, and where it was to be brought from, before they would consent to City Council saddling them with expense and obnoxious regulations for very many years. He hoped the Government would not do anything with the bill in the way of mixing up the affairs of the people of Auckland in it. Mr Vogel did net think any object would be gained by raising, at the present stage, a discussion on the clause proposed by the lion member for Nelson. The clause was accordingly withdrawn. Progress was reported, and the House went into committee on the ASSAULTS ON CONSTABLES BILL. Some discussion ensued as to the correct meaning of the Act, when Mr Gillies explained that the real object of the Act was to enable one justice of the peace to deal summarily with trifling assaults upon constables, while formerly such breaches were treated as misdemeanors, and heard before two justices of the peace, who committed the person, if found guilty. The bill was then reported with amendments. GOLDEIELDS RETURNS. It was agreed, on the motion of Mr HarriSON, that a return be laid upon the table, showing in defail the expenditure in respect of water supply upon the goldfields, up to the 30th June last; the amouut of subsidies, applications for which are still under consideration f and the estimated sum that will be required to complete works already authorised by the Government. solicitors’ costs. Mr HARRISON moved that a return be laid upon the table, showing the amount of costs in each case charged by the solicitors appointed by the Government to prepare the mortgagees upon water races, to secure advances made by the Government. Mr MEtiVYN, who seconded, said it was highly desirable these returns should be laid before the House as soon as possible. Mr RICHARDSON could not say how long it would be before the second return asked for could be prepared, but he thought it would be sometime. The other return, he believed, was nearly ready, and would be laid before the House in a day or two. Motion agreed to. STANDING ORDERS COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr Seymour, the name of Mr Thomson was added to the Committee on Standing Orders. SFECIAL SETTLEMENTS. Mr REEYES moved for a return of the total expenditure incurred respectively in the special settlements at Palmerston, at Opaki, at the Seventy Mile Bush, and at any other speoial settlements that may have been founded. The return to be irrespective of any charges that may have been debited against the immigrants, and to include all sums expended on the settlements from the time of leaving the ship’s side to the present date. To state in the case of each settlement how many of f he original settlers remain on their locations, and what has become (if known) of those who have left them. Also, how much of the original cost has been charged against the settlers, and how much of this has been paid.” He was induced to make the motion, not so much that he had any doubts as to the success of these experiment*, but he felt bound to say that a widespread impression prevailed in his province that they had been costly failures. Mr O’RORKE said the return would be laid before the House on Tuesday, and be felt certain that when members had it placed in their hands they would see that these settlements had not been the costly failures some people thought them to be. The fact was that bad it not been for those very settlements large and costly public works could not have been accomplished in those districts except at ruinous expense. Indeed the settlements were deemed to have been highly successful. MANUFACTURING RESOURCES. Mr MURRAY moved that a committee be appointed to recommend what steps, if any, should be taken to ascertain and develop the producing and manufacturing resources of the colony ; the committee to have power to confer and act with any similar committee of the Legislative Council on the same subject, and to make either a joint or a separate report; the committee to have power to call for persons and papers; three to be a quorum. Such committee to consist of the following members : —The hon Mr Richardson, Mr Seymour, Mr O’Conor, Mr J. Shephard, Mr Creighton, Mr Sheehan, Mr Pearce, Mr Bryce, Mr Carrington, Mr Taiaroa, Mr Steward, Mr Webb, and the mover. Agreed to. NATIVE LAND SBECULATION. Mr MURRAY moved that, in the opinion of this House, the Government ought to take immediate steps to prevent the further purchase of land from natives by Europeans, until a measure can be passed to regulate such transactions in a manner more satisfactory to the natives, more consistent with the progress of bona fide colonisation, and the maintenance of the peace of the colony. The hon member pointed out the dangerous complications and difficulties which were in store for the colony if we allowed the natives to part with their lands to land speculators, and become landless and paupers upon the public. Besides, looking at the matter from another point of view, it was most unwise to allow such quantities of land to pass into the hands of a few persons to the embarrassment of the settlement of the country. Mr M'LEAN assured the hon member and the House that the Government had given the deepest attention to this subject, ihe importance of which they had been long alive to;

and he trusted the hon member would be satisfied on receiving the assurance that the Government would at an early day bring down a measure to remedy the evils complained of. Major ATKINSON pointed out to the Government that they should also legislate for those persons v»ho endeavored to induce the natives to sell confiscated land as well as land of other kinds. Mr FITZ HERBERT expressed his gratification that so important a matter had been brought forward by a member for the Southern Island, and also at the readiness with which the Government had met the views of the hon member. He was well aware that large areas of land had been and were being bought from the natives, often at not more than fourpence per acre ; and while that was the ease, was it reasonable that the purchasers should come down to the House and ask the Government to make roads to their private property ? Mr SHEPHERD was surprised that the question had not been dealt with before. He was still more surprised to see a veteran politician like the hon member for the Hutt complimenting a political novice from the South Island for moving in the matter in which the hon gentleman himself ought to liavg moved long ago. Mr FITZHERBERT regretted that the hon member who had just sat, down had shown so much political ignorance of his past actions in that House as to attempt to administer to him a rebuke under an erroneous conception. He need only point to his action in 1.562 regarding the cession of the right of purchase from natives, and in order to prevent the land jobbers and speculators of the country getting hold of the native lands. He trusted the hon member would acknowledge his error. Mr MURRAY accepted the explanation of Mr M'Lean and withdrew the motion. MINING ASSOCIATIONS. Mr T. L. SHEPHERD moved that it is desirable that there should be forwarded to the various Mining Associations throughout the colony, the following papers published from time to time during the present and future sessions of the Assembly : —One copy of papers presented to Parliament, and two copies of Hansard. Mr REYNOLDS, while not approving of such motions generally, thought that as there were only twelve of these associations, no harm could be done by acceding to the request. Mr GILLIES suggested the addition of the words, “ and agricultural associations.” Mr MERYYN could cordially agree with the motion. He could assure the House these mining associations were very important bodies, and likely to exercise considerable influence on legislation of the House. They had been called into existence chiefly by the passing of the Mining Bill, when they thought their interests were being ignored. Mr REYNOLDS said that agricultural associations were already supplied. Mr WEBSTER begged to propose that pastoral and manufacturing associations, and indeed every description of association that could be mentioned, should also be included. It appeared to him that the Houee was being mode a mere maehine in these matters, at the expense of the country and the distraction of the postmasters. On the motion of Mr J. Shephard, the words “ and future” were omitted. Mr Swanson suggested that saw mill and quartz mill associations should also be included. Mr O’Conor regretted that hon members could not express their opinions upon the motion without sneering at the representatives of an important section of the community. Mr Buckland said if he understood correctly what had been said the concession was asked for twelve mining associations only ; but he might state that they bad an equal number of mining associations at the Thames. Mr SHEPHERD was very sorry to see that so many hon members failed to appreciate the the true spirit of the motion. In order that there should be no doubt upon the matter, he should mention that they should not confound the mining associations referred to in the motion with other associations, because these associations had been formed solely with the object of watching and being a check upon the mining legislation of the General Assembly. The motion was agreed to. GOLDFIELDS COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr O’Conor, the number of Goldfields Committee was increased to sixteen by the addition of the name of Mr Steward. ELECTORAL ROLL. It was agreed, on the motion of Mr O’CoNOR, that a return be laid upon the table, showing the annual cost in each district of forming and revising the electoral roll, together with such classification as will show how the expenditure has been incurred. IMMIGRATION COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr Richardson, the name of Mr Cuthbertson was added to the Public W*orks and Immigration Committee. THAMES WATER SUPPLY. Mr GILLIES moved chat all communications between the Government and any other persons relative to the Thames water supply be laid on the table. The hon member regretted, not only the very long time which has elapsed since the work had been promised to be done by the Government, but he still more regretted that the Government had neglected for so long to acquire the land necessary for the race ; for within his own knowledge land had lately been purchased for the sole purpose of making a profit out of the Government, who it was known would have to purchase that land for the purposes of the water race. Mr RICHARDSON said the Government would gladly lay upon the table all the papers in connection with the project, though they were very few. He would also say that a great quantity of the pipes had been shipped

for Auckland, As regarded the purchase of the land referred to, instructions had been sent to make the necessary purchases of the pieces of land required for the water race. The House then adjourned till next sitting day. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Tuesday, 22nd July, 1873. The Hon the Speaker took the chair at two o’clock. THE FOUR PER CENT LOAN. The Hon Mr WATERHOUSE asked the Hon the Colonial Secretary what were the names of the agents appointed to negotiate the recent four per cent loan, and what was the date of the order in Council making such appointment. The Hon Dr POLLEN said that the appointment was made on the 14th October last; and the following were the names of the gen tlemen appointed to negotiate the loan in the undermentioned places :—Victoria, Messrs Reynolds, Yogel, and O’Rorke ; New Zealand, Messrs Yogel, M'Lean, and O’Rorke; London, the Agent-General and Messrs Julyan and Sergeaunt. The Hon Mr SEWELL moved that a select committee be appointed to examine into the practical working and results of the immigration policy of 1870, and the means whereby the objects of such policy may be best effectuated, the commitr.ee to consist of the Hon the Speaker, Hon Dr Pollen, Hon Mr Waterhouse, Hon Mr J. Johnston, Hon Mr Hart, Hon Mr MTean, and the mover ; the committee to have power to call for persons and papers, and to report on the 11th August proximo. He (Mr Sewell) did not think it necessary to go into the reasons for bringing forward this motion, and he would confine himself to a reference to the paragraph in his Excellency’s speech on the subject of iramigracjion. He thought the holding of this enquiry would be carrying out the intentions of his Excellency as expressed in bis speech. He had endeavored in the construction of the committee to select those members whom he thought took a great interest, in the question. The Hon Colonel B iETT seconded the motion pro forma, but he decidedly objected to the constitution of the eommitte, on the ground that there was not a sufficient number of members on it from the Southern provinces. Canterbury and Otago employed more labor than the whole North Island, and consequently the interests involved in the question in these two provinces was very great. He should like to see two members from each of these provinces placed on the committee. With regard to Canterbury, he must say that great dissatisfaction existed at the way in which the immigration policy had been carried out by the Agent-General. That he had utterly failed in his duties was the opinion of almost everyone in that province. He saw by a letter from Mr Waterhouse to Dr Featherston, that that gentleman had strongly urged upon the Agent-General the necessity of sending out a larger number of immigrants to Otago and Canterbury. But what was the result ? Not one-third of the number requested had been Bent. Otago had wisely appointed an agent to represent her interests in the.immigration question ; and now Canterbury had voted a sum of money for the same purpose, and requested permission of the Government to do so. He hoped no obstacles would be thrown in the way of Canterbury carrying out this important object. Wellington had got four of its members on the committee, and yet it did not employ one-fourth of the labor of either Otago or Canterbury. Ho would move that the members of the committee be appointed by ballot. The Hon Mr MAN TELL said that with regard to the absence of the names of southern members on the committee, the fault lay in a great measure with themselves. He found that about forty members of the Council might be expected during the session. There were at present sixteen members absent, and thirteen of these belonged to the South. They could not well place members names on a committee when the members themselves were not present. The Ho Mr SEWELL pointed out that although, according to the Standing Orders of the Council, not more than seven members could bo placed on a committee, it was competent for any member to move the suspension of this rule, and propose the name of any gentleman whom he might wish on the committee. The Hon Dr POLLEN thoroughly concurred in the motion, and every assistance would be given to the committee by the Government, the members of which were sincere in desiring that the question of immigration should be placed on a saiisfaftorv basis. The Hon Colonel KENNY thought that the presence of the names of four Wellington members on the committee was purely accidental. They could not well tell when members would be present, and it would not be politic to place absent members’ names on committees. The Hon Mr SEWELL was of opinion that the interests of both Otago and Canterbury would not be neglected by the committee. Ho (Mr Sewell) was one of the founders of Canterbury, and always took a great interest in its welfare. Otago would nob have much reason to complain at the constitution of the committee, for that province was represented on it by the Hon the Speaker. He thought the only name on the committee to whom any objection could be taken was that of Mr Hart, and although he (Mr Sewell) would like to see that gentleman’s name on it, he would not object to substituting that of Colonel Brett. It was ultimately agreed that the committee should be elected by ballot, and the following gentlemen were chosen :—Hon Dr Pollen (chairman), Hon Mr Sewell, Hon Mr Waterhouse, Hon Colonel Brett, Hon Mr M'Lean, Hon Major Richardson, and the Hon Mr Johnston,

The Hon Dr POLLEN said that there were •various reasons why a member of the Government should not be Chairman of the Committee, and he would move that the Hon Mr Sewell be the chair- man. Agreed to. interest bill. The Hon Dr POLLEN moved the second reading of this bill. He said that the present rate of interest allowed by law where there wa9 no special agreement was 8 per cent, and the chief object of this bill was to reduce it to 6 per cent. The Hon Mr SEWELL suggested that more time should be given for the consideration of the bill, and he thought the opinions of the banking and mercantile interests should be taken on it. The Hon Mr JOHNSTON said the bill was one which affected the mercantile community in a great degree. He had heard no reason adduced for che introduction of the measure. He was aware that the rate of interest had fallen, but we could not be certain that the fall will be permanent Even in London itself—the great money market of the world —the. fluctuations in the value of money we*te considerable. He did not think that either the interests of the public or of the mercantile community would be consulted if the bill passed into law. He would move that the bill be read a second time tbat day six months. The Hon Mr WATERHOUSE said that the bill had been introduced without due consideration. The effect of it would be that parties who had no property would bo able to ra se money at a lower rate of interest than those who had. The law in England waß that the rate of interest on ordinary business transactions should be slightly in excess of that on money raised on mortgage.* The present rate of interest charged by the banks was in excess of that to be allowed by this bill except a special agreement to the contrary had been made. The effect of the bill would be that greater stringency would have to be used in monetary transactions. If money was lent by a bank at eight per cent—which ’is about the rate at present—on a six months’ bill, the bank would in all probability enforce its payment at the end of that time, as the law after that date would only empower it to recover six per cent. This, he thought, would be a serious inconvenience, as it was often the case that the payment of the bill was extended with great advantage. The bill would also have a tendency in influencing a debtor not to pay his bill when due, as after that date he need only pay a lower percentage. The Hon Dr POLLEN said that the previous speakers had evidently misunderstood the nature ot the bill. It did not in any way affect the interest on money when a special agreement had been made. There was a class of cases constantly cropping up in the courts to which this bill would refer. The object of the bill was to prevent an exorbitant creditor from inflicting serious injury on an unfortunate debtor, when, perhaps, the transaction extended over a number of years. However, he did not wish to hurry the bill through the Council, and would nob object to allow time to consider the bill. The bill was ordered to be read a second time that day six months. SECOND READINGS. The Bank Holidays Bill and the Sheriffs Act Amendment Bill were read a second time. The St. Andrew’s Church (Wellington) Trustees Incorporation Bill was ordered to be read a second time that day six months. The Council then adjourned until the following day, at 2 p.m. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Tuesday, July 22nd. The Speaker took the chair at half-past two o’clock. TELEGRAPH CABLES BILL. Before the usual preliminary business, a message was received from his Excellency the Governor, containing a Telegraph Cables Subsidy Ratification Bill. The bill was received and read a first time. PRELIMINARY BUSINESS. Several petitions were received and read, a number of papers laid upon the table, and several notices of motion made. ADDRESS TO THE GOVERNOR. The House adjourned for a short time in order to permit of the Speaker vacating the chair for the purpose of presenting the address in reply to his Excellency’s speech. On the House resuming, the Speaker announced that his Excellency received the address with satisfaction. LEA YE OF ABSENCE was granted to the following hon members: —■ Mr J C. Brown, member for Tuapeka, on account of urgent public business, for ten days; Mr M'Glashan for one week ; Mr Macandrew for one week. CONFISCATED LANDS. Major ATKINSON asked the Native Minister what provision the Government are making, or have made, for educational and hospital reserves in the confiscated lands now in course of sale in the Province of Taranaki ? Mr M'LEAN said the Government had had the matter under consideration for some time, and were most anxious to meet the requirements of the province as well as the wishes of the*settlers in the matter, and they expected to be able to do so. TARANAKI EDUCATION RESERVES. Mr T. KELLY asked the Native Minister whether effect has been given to the Taranaki Education Reserves Act, 1871, by making » reserve of 10,000 acres for the endowment of common schools within the province. Mr M'LEAN, after explaining the position occupied by the Government, said they were prepared to confer with the hon member on the matter.

WAITAKI BRIDGE* Mr v STEWARD asked the Minister for Public Works—l. Whether it is the fact tha*

the materials imported for the Waitaki Bridge have proved unsuitable for the purpose ; also, whether such materials are of the description ordered by the Colonial Government; and if not, by whose authority materials, of a different description hare been sent out from home? 2. In the event of the present materials proving unsuitable for the purpose intended, to what use it is intended to put them ? 3. Is it proposed to call for public tenders for the construction of the bridge, and, if so, when ? Mr RICHARDSON said that as to the first question of the hon member, he was informed that the materials were suitable for the purpose required. As to the second part, the original order for materials was changed at home with the sanction of the Agent-General, after conferring with two consulting engineers ; and there was every reason to believe that the change had been beneficial. Some experiments had yet to be tried in conn action with pneumatic machines of an inexpensive nature for sinking the piles. Having to determine between the merits of two processes. the result would be the calling of tenders for the erection of the bridge as soon as they decided upon what they considered the be3t plan. ’ NORTHERN RAILWAY. Mr J. E. BROW Y asked the Minister for Public Works when it is intended to proceed with the construction of the Northern railway from Ashley River to the Kowai River, in the Province of Canterbury ? Mr RICHARDSON said the construction and opening of this railway depended upon the construction of the bridge over the Ashley ; and the engineer had considered that it would be little use in calling for tenders before next month, which would be done. NATI YE AFFAIRS. Sir J. C. WILSON pointed out that the composition of the committee upon native affairs was not as judicious as might have been. MAIL SERVICE. Mr VOGEL made a statement regarding the mail service, to the effect that Mr Bishop had received a letter informing him that the arrangements previously made had been repudiated by M‘Meckan, Blackwood, and Co. He hoped to be able to lay papers on the table soon proposing an arrangement for the carriige of the mails for three years by M'Meckan’s steamers. BANKING. Mr SWANSON asked for a copy of all correspondence that has taken place during the recess between the Government and the Bank of New Zealand on the subject of the banking account. Mr VOGEL said that if any such correspondence existed the Government would have no objection to lay it upon the table. PROGRESS OF BUSINESS. The following bills were introduced and read a first time :—Evidence Further Amendment Bill; Law of Arrest Amendment Bill; Leases and Sales of Settled Estates Act Amendment Bill; Notaries Bill. —(Hon Mr Bathgate.) An Act to make provision for the constitution of Local Councils in Native Districts, and to define the functions and duties of Biich Councils.—(Hon Mr M‘Lean.) Regulation of Elections Bill; Electoral Bill; Provincial Electoral Bill—(Hon Mr Reynolds.) A Bill to enable the Governors of the Wellington College to borrow money for the purposes of the College—(Hon Mr Fitzherbert,)A Bill to amend the Representation Act, 1870 —(Mr Mervyn.) Canterbury Width of Tirea Bill; a Bill to amend the Municipal Corporations Act, 1867 —(Mr Rolleston.) • MONEY BILL. Mr FITZHERBERT gave notice of motion that on next sitting day he would move that the House go into committee to consider whether leave be given to introduce a bill to authorise the appropriation for certain purposes of the annual sum of £IOOO for four years, out of the provincial revenue of the province of Wellington. OBSTRUCTION OF BUSINESS. The SPEAKER said he had been informed by letter from the Chairman of Committees Wd the Clerk of the House that it was utterly to conduct the business devolving upon them in their apartments under the present arrangements. If the gas stove was B °t lit, they could not work in cold weather. " it was, they were then no better off. •ibis roust not be allowed to exist, or else business would get, behindhand. Mr REYNOLDS said the Government *ould endeavor to provide proper accommodation. SUPPLY. The House went into committee to consider -J 8 motion—That a supply be granted to her •sjesty • and progress was reported. The report on the 'PXICIPAL CORPORATIONS WATERWORKS ACT AMENDMENT BILL *** considered, agreed to,'and the bill passed. . USE ASSAULTS ON CONSTABLES BILL a third time and passed. Uj'IiUXS JPORTATION PROHIBITION BILL. Air VOGEL, in moving the second reading 0 this bill, said that a general and decided opinion prevailed at the New South Wales °nfer eDce importation of cattle ( be put a stop to for two years. Great . ~' Vero the advantages gained by the impor*•lon of stock from Europe, the representac| 68 °f the colonies considered that the danger Importing oattle disease from Europe was ‘Eminent at the time that they thought it a 6 *° forego any advantages obtained {f . r K eb y- Before pledging the Government of Colon y bo th~ e endorsement of the views Ibe * ? on^eren ee, they communicated with **ad V fvf° U 8 governments. Mr Vogel *eiv 3 6 re P^ es in detail. The answers re0f a* frooa the various Superintendents were jj. ? most diverse character—some approv- * on T ,r °hibition, while others recommended Thl Wan^ne station or partial prohibition. w® Were the reasons which induced the Go®ent to submit the present bill to the

House. Although he was aware that statements had been made in the newspapers that all the diseases peculiar to cattle in Europe had developed themselves in Australia, he knew that these had been authoritatively contradicted. Mr Vogel then proceeded to quote statistical returns of the mortality to stock attending the various forms of cattle disease, as read before the Conference, together with the enormous amount of capital represented by the pastoral interests of* the colonies, in order to show the very great risk run by the colonies through the importation of disease. The whole tenor of the statistics and information embodied in the report of the Conference was to prove that the best safeguard for the colonies was the prohibition of stock from all places outside the Australian colonies. The hon member said that although the extracts he had read represented an entirely Australian view, there could be no question that New Zealand ran great danger also. Whatever might be the desire of the House in the malfcer —whether prohibition or quarantine stations —no one would attempt to deny that the question was of the greatest importance. The Government were in no way pledged in the matter, and solely desired to be guided by the wish of the House. Mr BLUETT intimated that when the bill was in committee he would be prepared to move some amendments to the bill. Speaking for Canterbury, he felt that he could say the bulk of opinion in that province was strongly against placing a prohibition for two years upon stock from Europe. Besides, they had no guarantee that the Colony would be any better off at the expiration of the two years mentioned.

Mr GILLIES pointed out that it would be unnecessary to allow the bill to go to a second reading for the purpose of inserting the cattle regulations of Canterbury, as the Government had now the power to quarantine stock if they thought necessary. It seemed to him rather incongruous that we should take more pains to preserve the purity of our stock than of our population. Why should not they at once stop the introduction of small pox ? While not professing to know much of this peculiar matter, he could go so far as to say that the opinion of experienced men in Auckland was against prohibition, as they believed that a quarantine would answer all the purposes of precaution. Besides, it should be remembered that as New Zealand was very remote’ from the mother country, the probabilities were in favor of the disease mani festing itself in any stock intended for the colony long before arrival. The bill also conferred a very large executive power too dangerous for the House to grant unthinkingly. He must oppose the second reading of the Bill, Sir J. C. WILSON moved that the bill be read a second time that day six months. Mr RHODES supported the bill as a most necessary precaution, and instanced a case where a lot of sheep died of disease just before entering Canterbury province, making a very fortunate escape for the colony. Mr ROLLESTON opposed the second reading of the bill. Mr VOGEL, said it was clear that many hon members evidently thought that the prohibition of introducing stock for two years would be most damaging to the pastoral interest, and that the danger ran Was so small as not to call for any measure of the kind proposjd. Considering the large quantity of good stock already in the colony, and the comparatively small number of well-bred stock introduced yearly, he failed to see that the hardship of prohibiting importation for two years was great by comparison with the security gained thereby. He had seen by the newspapers that several nai’row escapes bad been run in the other colonies. However, as he bad no desire to act against the wishes of the House, he would leave the matter in the hands of hon members. A division being called for on the amendment, the result was the rejection ©f the bill. • The House then went into committee upon the RUAPUKE ANNEXATION BILL, which was reported without amendment, read a third time, and passed. DISTRICT COURTS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. Mr BATHGATE, in moving the second reading of this bill, said that though a very short bill it was a very important one, inasmuch as it perfected the administration of the law. The enlargement of the jurisdiction embraced in the bill had been tried in other countries, and had always been attended with signal success. The question was one indeed which had attracted the attention of the first law reformers, amongst them being that veteran law l-eformer Lord Brougham, who had the gratification of ultimately seeing his views in this direction carried into force by the establishing of local eourts, which enabled the tradesman to obtain redress with equal facility to the rich, who by their means could apply to the higher courts. The want of equitable jurisdiction had for many years been a source of constant injustice to the poorer classes. The hon member mentioned several instances which had come within his knowledge in this colony; and, further, he said he had received several communications from various parts of the colony all representing the necessity that existed for a more speedy and equitable jurisdiction. The courts contemplated would do for a £5 note what often cost in the Supreme Court ten times the sum. He recollected a case brought into the Supreme Court involving the recovery of £150; and although the claim was not opposed, the expenses reached £75. One great feature, too, in the bill was that it did not interfere with any existing interests. He had such entire confidence in the nature of the bill that he anticipated no opposition from the body of the House in carrying what must prove no insignificant boon to the people of the colony. Mr BRANDON regretted that he could acacely say that he understood the bill. It

appeared to him that the Resident Magistrates Court’s possessed equitable jurisdiction, and he also believed that the judges in the Supreme Courts possessed the power of dealing with a question equitably, as they might think suitable to the occasion. Considering the facilities of communication in the colony, and the facilities for moving the springs of justice the measure was entirely unnecessary. He objected to the hon member making any comparison between the circumstances of the people of this country and those at home. It seemed to him an inexpedient course to withdraw from the Supreme Court the jurisdiction intended. Surely the hon member would not go so far as to say that the judges were at present too hard worked. No objection could be urged against their doing in the Supreme Courts of the colony what not long ago was done in England, viz., the simplifying of the mode of procedure, and the reduction of the scale of fees.

Mr LUCKIE said the main point of the system of our lower law courts was the power of interminably prolonging litigation. If a system of speedy and cheap jurisdiction was to be obtained, the first thing to be done was to prevent the right of appeal from our Resident Magistrates’ Court. From our experience of these Courts, and of the gentlemen who presided over them, we ought to know that there was little or no fear of a miscarriage of justice. He hoped this power would not be perpetuated in this bill, as appeared to be at present contemplated. Mr SHEPHARD said he thought the measure introduced by the hom member was calculated to promote the delays it professedly ought to cure, and consequently was likely in the same degree to increase the expense of justice, instead of making it cheaper. There was also too much reason to fear that the cheap and equitable jurisdiction at present aAailable to the amount of £IOO would gradually disappear, and that the whole business at present transacted in those courts would soon pass into the District'Courts provided by the bill, to the increased expense of the litigants.

Mr SHEPHERD would not oppose the second reading of the bill. The hon member for the Wellington Country Districts seemed toen tertain the opinion that the bill was a legal measure, but his arguments against it were so weak as to induce him to give his support to the bill. In fact, he thought that the legal members of the House, instead of giving the House the benefit of their legal training, rather seemed to use it in an obstructive manner. The hon member intimated that the judges of ihe District Courts were endowed with functions of a far too important a character to be placed in their hands. Well, if that were the ease, it was rather an argument against the fitness of the judges than against the measure. If the judges were not fib for their duties, they should be replaced by parsons who were. Inasmuch as the bill enabled persons to settle their difficulties without being put to the expense of going to Supreme Courts remotely distant, the bill was a step much required. As to the remark of the hen member regarding the curtailment of the expenses of the Supreme Courts, he thought they stood much in need of it, but he did not think members, of the legal profession generally were much likely to ever attempt reform in that direction. Altogether the arguments used by the hon member against the bill, were indirect reasons why the bill should be supported. He only regretted that the Government had pot seen fib to introduce an 1 entirely new bill, instead of a measure tinkering the existing legislation on the subject. He could not go with those hon members who opposed the power to appeal from the decisions of Resident Magistrates, because he held that as these gentlemen were not always lawyers, parties should have power to remove causes to a District Court, in order to obtain a superior opinion. He trusted the bill would be read a second time, in order that he might have the assistance of the hon member for Wellington Country Districts in making the bill a great public benefit.

Mr STEWARD thought the Government should be complimented in introducing so well intentioned a measure. The hon member instanced a criminal case in which the colony was put to an enormous expense simply for want of such a measure as to enable trivial criminal cases to be dealt with on the spot. Mr GILLIES had no doubt that the common sense of the House would agree with him in thinking that the modest self-complacency of the hon gentleman who introduced the bill in taking to himself the position of a law reformer was charmiug to witness, but they would also agree with him in thinking, that such encomiums should have proceeded from other quarters. Instead of the bill being a step towards law reform he regarded it as retrogressive. The direct result of this bill would be to make the offices of Judges of the Supreme Court little else than sinecures. At present they had little to do compared with Judges of the District Courts. He was prepared to admit that there were some good points embodied in the bill, but these were far too few and unimportant to entitle the bill to be classed as a good measure. The hon gentleman then proceeded to criticise the existing law machinery to show that good lawyers were not yet so plentiful in the colony that we should begin to create billets for them, which must certainly result from such a bill as this. Instead of providing that law and equity should be jointly administered, the bill actually dissociated them, and placed a litigant who might be worsted in a District Court on a plea of equity in the position of instituting a case on equity grounds. He agreed with the hon member for Oamaru that the old District Courts Act required amendment to enable criminal cases calling for only light punishment to be dealt with on the spot. The hon gentleman then proceeded to read the details of the bill, and asked if any hon member could venture to say what were the

powers conferred by the hi!!. He held that as we had machinery already dealing with everything provided for iii the bill, ir was not a reformatory srep, but, on the contrary, one that, entailed an additional expense upon the means at the disposal of the colony. If the hon gentleman was desirous of deserving the title of a law reformer, he would be more likely to attain that character if he devised some means for consolidating" the various courts of the colony with the view of preventing litigiousness. He would not oppose the second reading, but he hoped it would be largely amended by the excision of those retrograde ideas which it now contained. If the bill were not read a second time there would be nothing lost.

Mr JOHNSTON thought the bill did go far enough. If the bill had the effect of making the District Court the luxury of the poor man, let us not at least thrust it down his throat. Let him at least have the option of taking his grievance to the Supreme Court. He would not oppose the second reading of the bill, but he trusted it would be considerably amended. Major ATKINSON said it seemed to him that a logical necessity of the bill was that they should do away with the Supreme Court; but although all agreed that that Court wasf not an arena of justice for the poor man, ho must confess that he was still not prepared to sweep away the whole work transacted by the Supreme Court now. The effect of the bill was to place in the District Court the whole of the equity and bankruptcy cases. He should sadly regret to see superior jurisdiction in tho hands of inferior men ; be would far lather see the Supreme Court made available to every other person. Speaking for his own district, he knew that the bill would place it at a greater disadvantage than it was at present; and although he would not oppose the second reading, he trusted the bill would be seriously amended.

Mr WOOD failed to gather from the remarks of the hon gentleman who moved the second reading of the bill, that there was any necessity for this so-called reform. The hon gentleman had quoted the efforts of Lord Brougham in the direction of law reform ; but the eminent man referred to had shown the existence of many abuses and much harshness in the laws of his courts. What, he might ask, had the Minister of Justice shown regarding the working of the legal system of the colony to warrant him introducing a bill of this kind ? Not a single one but a paltry dispute between some fishermen. He could not, in short, regard the bill as otherwise than mischievous, and he trusted that the House would throw out the measure without wasting any more time upon it.

Mr WAKEFIELD opposed the bill as a mass of mischievous matter with a very small modicum of good. Mr BATHGATE, in replying, said that of all that was said by the hon members who had spoken to the bill, little was left for him to answer, as they failed to properly apprehend the ground that he took up—that the present administrate of the law of the colony was ruinously expensive to the litigants. That proposition had at least not been successfully assailed. So far from admitting the statement that no dissatisfaction existed regarding the administration of the law of the colony, he maintained their experience of Auckland affairs showed that at any rate the administration of law in that province was eminently unsatisfactory. Referring to the remark that the effect of the bill would be the making a sinecure of the duties of the judges of the Supreme Court, he thought that such an occurrence would be a most desirable one for the colony at large, though he maintained that no such result would ever be brought about. There would always be most important business and cases involving great legal research and knowledge to occupy Supreme Courts. As to the objections taken against the bill on the score of it necessitating many new appointments, he could say that there was no intention of making any such appointments. Hon members should, in judging the bill, bear in mind the transitional state in which the social affairs of the colony were in. We were gradually changing to a state that required a measure of this kind, and he trusted the bill would be read a second time, as he had no doubt that it would be hailed as a beneficial measure by the colony at large. The second reading of the bill was then fixed for next Tuesday. THE GOLD MINING BILL was read a second time. THE CANTERBURY WASTE LANDS BILL was read a second time. CLUTHA PUBLIC WORKS. Mr THOMSON moved, that the House to-morrow resolve itself into committee to consider of granting leave to introduce a bill providing for the raising of money by loan to be applied to certain public works in the Olutha district. Sir J. C. WILSON wished to know how many times the security proposed to be hypothecated had been pledged before ? Mr SHEPHARD hoped the hon member would postpone his motion for eight or ten days, or until the Colonial Treasurer brought down his financial statement. Mr MERVYN said that although he objected to the principle of the motion, he considered the hon member was only following an example set last session regarding the expenditure of money in the North Island. Mr M'LEAN trusted the hon member would see the irregularity of the proceeding, and accept the advice of the hon member for Waimea. Mr WOOD thought it was a needless piece of discourtesy to oppose the motion of the hon member at this preliminary stage, and before he had had an opportunity of explaining the matter fully. The motion was postponed.

TARANAKI LAND. Mr T. KELLY moved that a return be laid on the table, showing the quantity of land sold in the Province of Taranaki by the General '■ Government, during the financial year ending 30th June, 1873, and the amount of cash received for the same ; also, what portion of the proceeds has been credited to the Provincial Government. Agreed to. CIVIL SERVICE ACT. In the absence of Mr Yogel, Mr M'Lean moved that a select committee be appointed to consider the Civil Service Act Amendment Bill, the Permanent Officers Salary Bill, and also to consider whether it is desirable to further amend the Acts relating to the Civil Service. The said committee to comist of the Hon Mr Fitzherbert, Messrs Macardrew, Ormond, Rolleston, Beeves, Swanson, Shephard, Stafford, Wood, and the mover ; three to be a quorum. Mr ROLLESTON said the Civil Service Act had been systematically neglected for years back. He did not blame the present Government altogether for that; but he thought it was unfair to amend an Act the provisions of which had never been given effect to. Mr WOOD had very great pleasure in supporting the proposal of the Government, as there was no doubt that tbe Act required amendment, it being far too cumbrous. The motion was then agreed to. The House adjourned at 9.15 p.m. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Wednesday, 23rd July, 1873. The Hon the Speaker took the chair at two o’clock. PUBLIC TRUST OFEICE ACT 1872 AMENDMENT BILL. On the motion of the Hon Dr Pollen, the second reading of the bill was postponed until the following day. SHERIEES ACT AMENDMENT BILL. The Council went into committee on this bill, progress was reported, and the third reading fixed for Eriday next. BE-CONSTRUCXION OE THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. The Hon Mr WATERHOUSE moved that A select committee be appointed to consider and report upon the best mode of securing an efficient and satisfactory re-construction of the Council, such committee to consist of the Hon the Speaker, Major Richmond, Colonel Kenny, Messrs Sewell, Hart, Dr Pollen, and the mover j the committee to report before the 14th August. He had been induced to bring forward this motion by the introduction in the Council of a measure by the Hon Dr Pollen dealing with the constitution of the Chamber, and he also bad been advised in his action by several influential members. The measure of the Colonial Secretary had brought prominently under the notice of the country the standing of .the Council, and he thought it was generally felt that it was quite inadequate to deal with the subject. He was not influenced by any factious opposition in his present action, but simply brought the motion forward so that the subject might be thoroughly ventilated. The question was not as to whether or not there should be a eecond Chamber. That question was settled by the Constitution Act; and it is no more in the power of the other House to do so than it would be to abolish the institution of a Governor. There would not be any likelihood of such a measure being sanctioned by the home Government, and it is fortunate that this question has not been raised. The experience of every country had shown that the existence of a second Legislative Chamber was highly necessary for good government. They could give no instance of any Government succeeding that did not possess a second Chamber; and this was fully borne oat by the experience of every civilized country both in Europe and America. The existence of one Chamber had been tried in several of the States of America and in Europe, and was found to be a failure. The most successful and prosperous of all the South American republics—Chili—possessed a second branch of Legislature. The question to be considered was, whether or not a body constituted such as the Council is thoroughly suited to the interests of the country. He had no doubt that the Council had faithfully performed its duties hitherto; but the revising of the measures of the House of Representatives he looked upon as one of the least important of its functions; it was far more important that it should possess the power of preventing one class domineering over another. It may be said that the system of nomination is the principle on which the House of Lords at home iB based. No doubt, that body sprung from tbe nomination system ; but the circumstances of the House of Lords and the Legislative Council were widely different. The members of the upper chamber at home represent in a great degree the past associations and prestige of the country, and as owners of tbe land, have immense influence. In none of these respects can a nominated body be the same here. It cannot be said that the members of the Council generally possess large territorial estates. There may be wealthy men amongst them, but that did not always, in a new country like this, confer learning, character, or high Bocial position. The members of the Council are almost invariably chosen by the ministers of the day, and their nomination is more the exigencies of party than anything else. Even the House of Lords political thinkers say that its weakness arises from the system of nomination and unlimited number, and that it oould not stand against popular pressure as a house could which was based upon the principle of election, and a limited number. Although the Council has,,hitherto discharged its duties zealously, yet, constituted as it is, it could not offer any satisfactory resistance to popular pressure- Some change is highly necessary, and the Council should be strengthened.

They represent themselves rather than public opinion, or even large interests. Mr John Stuart Mill haß said that tbe existence of a second chamber depended on tbe influence it possessed outside. In any conflict, the Council could not maintain itself against an elected body, which rested on the basis of a great power. They should seek to ally themselves with some such power, so that they might be enabled to take a firm stand in matters which were not to be tolerated. The question now was in what form a second chamber should be constituted. An English thinker says that it should be strong enough to maintain its own opinions and resist popular burets, and at the same time not be so strong as to be impenetrable. His opinion was that that could only be accomplished by an elective Chamber. In mentioning the elective principles on which such a body should be constituted, it was not for the purpose of forcing his views upon the Council, but that the question might be considered and discussed outside, so that public opinion might be expressed on the question. It was in a great measure true that only those of a good character and position had been nominated to the Council; and this undoubtedly was an advantage ; but it is not desirable in New Zealand that so much power should be thrown into the hands of a Government as the nomination of the members of the second branch of the Legislature. In the construction of the Chamber he thought there should be a resemblance to the Senate of the United States, and that could be effected by each of the provinces of the colony returning a certain number of members j or else the country might be divided into electoral districts. The next was on what basis the qualification of electors should be fixed. He hoped the qualification would be the same for both Houses, as it was very repugnant to the general feeling that there should be any class interests ; and if the Council were elected on any qualification differing from that for members of the House of Representatives, its influence would be greatly lowered. There was one thing which was greatly needed in a second branch of the Legislature, and that was security of tenure, which would give its members such stability that they would not hesitate to act regardless of sudden bursts of public opinion. He believed that a much more lengthened tenure should be given to the Legislative Council than to the House of Representatives. It would in his opinion be advisable that tbe duration of the Council should be that of three Parliaments, which would be about ten or twelve years. There was one difficulty in the reconstruction of the Council by election : how were the present members to be dealt with without injustice being done them. In Sydney, where a nominated Chamber existed, it was proposed that the nomination system should be suspended, and that as vacancies occurred, they should be filled by election. By that measure it was thought that in threo Parliaments the elected members of the second Chamber would be considerable. He was sure that the committee, would acknowledge tbe claims of members, and at tbe same time endeavor to frame a measure which would be in. consonance with public opinion. It was not always an easy task to choose committees which may be acceptable to tbe Council. In the present instance he had chosen those whom he thought possessed the confidence of the Council, and who he believed would be well qualified for the duties devolving on them. The question was a great one, and no better time could be chosen than the present, when public excitement was not high, to deal with it, so that any legislation which would be effected would be permanent and satisfactory. Tbe Hon Mr SCOTLAND objected to the constitution of the committee. He thought it should be taken by ballot. The Hon Mr MANTELL was of opinion that the committee should either be taken by a direct vote of the Council or by ballot. The Hon Mr Watei house had made a call on the Council; and he (Mr Mantell) thought that no action should have been taken with regard to the constitution of the committee until the Council had met. He would like to see the question postponed until 7th August. He would at once say that he believed a change in the constitution of the Council was necessary; but he did not think that there was Buch an outside pressure of public opinion as Mr Waterhouse seemed to imply. He thought that gentleman was greatly influenced by what he read in the newspapers. The subject was one which could well wait for a few days, and he would move its postponement till the 7th August. The Hon Mr WATERHOUSE had no objection to its postponement. Agreed to. The Council adjourned at 3.10 p.m. until the following day at 2 p.m.

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Wednesday, July 23rd. The Speaker took the chair at half-past two o’clock. THE NATIONAL BANK OF NEW ZEALAND BILL. This bill was read a first time, and the second reading fixed for Tuesday next. LEAYE OF ABSENCE was granted to the following hon members, on urgent private business : —Mr Creighton, for three weeks; Mr Takomoana, member for the Eastern Maori Electoral District ; Mr Taiaroa, member for the Southern Maori Electoral District for one week; Mr Donald Reid, member for Taieri, for ten days ; Mr Sheehan, for one week. On the application for leave of absence to Mr Creighton some discussion ensued. Mr Buokland protested against the hon member being allowed to disfranchise one of the largest constituencies in the colony for so long a period. Mr Wood followed in the same strain, and suggested that leave of absence be limited to one week. Mr Fox thought it was rather discourteous to the hon

member to object to such an ordinary request. Besides, the question of disfranchisement was one that more concerned the hon member’s constituents than the House of Representatives. Mr Harrison pointed out that if the hon member were at once to resign his seat his constituency would be disfranchised for a very much longer period than the leave of absence asked for. Mr Atkinson thought the time asked for was unnecessarily long. Sir J. C. Wilson said that no hou member should be granted leave of absence who did not put in an appearance at the beginning of the session. Mr Reeves hoped there would be no invidious distinction made in this .case ; but he thought the time had come when regulations ought to be made regarding members of Provincial Councils who were also members of the Legislature.

Mr YOGEL supported the motion. He said the hon member was one of the oldest of the House, and as punctual in his attendance as any, and from his own knowledge, he was aware that the hon member could not, without great inconvenience, attend for the time asked. It would, therefore, be very discourteous to him to refuse leave of absence. Besides, he might state, that the business of the House would not in any way be prejudiced by the hon member’s absence, as he had made provision for pairing until his arrival. Mr Murray opposed the motion. On the motion being put, leave was granted on the voices. Regarding the leave of absence to Mr Donald Reid on urgent public business, Mr Eitzhebbert spoke at some length to show the impropriety of the conduct of Provincial business being allowed to interfere with that of a superior legislature. It seemed to him that the business of the one should be sub/ ordinate to that of the other; and he also thought that the supreme legislature should endeavor to compel the business of Provincial Councils to be transacted during the recess of Parliament. Mr Webster moved that the motion be amended by the insertion of the word “private” in lieu of “public.” Mr J. C. Brown suggested that the leave be limited to one week. Sir J. C. Wilson could neither approve of the motion nor the amendment, as both were in a wrong direction altogether Mr O'Conor pointed out the anomalous position occupied by persons who were both members of the House and of a Provincial Council, and said that a measure brought forward to remedy such a state of things would be hailed with satisfaction. Mr Fox thought hon members were only beating the air in raising such a discussion on so small a matter, and one that had always been of such common occurrence. Mr Harrison directed the attention of the House to the predicament the Napier members were placed in by the fact that no steamer had arrived from that port for a fortnight, and the consequent unfairness of the course proposed in regard to other hon members. Mr Bradshaw also showed the desirability of granting the request as originally asked for. IMMIGRATION. Mr CUTHBERTSON asked the Government how many immigrants have, up to the present time, been landed at the Bluff on behalf of the Government, exclusive of immigrants for Messrs Brogden and Sons; and what instructions, if any, have been forwarded to the Agent-General regarding further shipments of immigrants to that port ? Mr O'RORKE read a list conveying the information asked for. LICENSING PUBLIC HOUSES. The Hon Mr FOX asked the Government whether, in response to the request of the 17,000 persons who petitioned the House during the last session, and the 9000, or thereabouts, who petitioned during the previous session, it is the intention of the Government to bring in any measure to amend the laws for licensing public houses in the colony ? Mr YOGEL said it was very clear that tbe hon member wanted to ascertain the views of the Government upon the question—one from which it was impossible to dissociate the hon member’s name ; for, compared with the great and disinterested efforts with which he had distinguished himself on this question, all others were small by comparison. While deeply regretting the abuses and misery attending the liquor traffic, he felt that tbe Government could not go so far as the hon member would desire them to do. The hon member then proceeded to explain the position in which the owners of public houses would be placed by the operation of the permissive clauses of the bill proposed by the hon member for Rangitikei, and he felt bound to say that he did not think thoses olauses at all calculated to bring about the result expected by the hon member; indeed, he thought the reverse might be expected. There were, however, directions in which the Government were prepared to go to the full extent with the wishes of the hon member. In the first instance, they were prepared to concur with him regarding adulteration— the retailing of poison; and in that of the granting of licenses by unpaid justices. That system was admitted on all hands not to have worked well. He was inclined to think that great reform might be effected in the granting of licenses by the assistance of commissioners, who would keep a watchful eye over public houses, and who should have discretionary power to recommend or refuse to recommend the granting of a license ; and who should also be expected to make themselves intimately acquainted with the appointments and facilities of public houses generally. He thought the interests of temperance and morality might be promoted by the establishment of working men’s clubs, where the working man could get pure liquor. If these ideas were carried out, he thought the present facility of obtaining licenses would be removed ; and if there ensued a financial loss to the Provincial Governments in consequence—for he believed in the Provincial Governments still retaining the

control of public houses and the p ro . ceeds arising therefrom —that could tj 0 amply met by an increase in the license f ee .' He trusted the hon member would consider these suggestions when preparing any bill on the subject, as he would thereby secure the co-operation of the Government. TELEGRAPH AT GERALDINE. Mr G. B. PARKER asked the PostmasterGeneral, whether, in view of the change of roate of the mail service between the Ashburton and Timaru, and the growth of popnlation in the Geraldine district, it is the intention of the Government to place a telegraph station and post office at Geraldine ? Mr YOGEL expressed his willingness if the Superintendent would guarantee the annual cost. GUBERNATORIAL DESPATCHES. Mr ROLLESTON asked whether there are any despatches from the late Governor of New Zealand to the Secretary of State for the Colonies, relating to the native meeting at Ngaruawahia, or with regard to the late change in the Ministry ? Also, whether there is any despatch from the Acting-Governor relating to the visit of the Luna to Kawhia ? Mr YOGEL replied that if the hon xnomber would move for the production of these despatches, the Government would ask the Governor to send them down. IMMIGRATION AT TIMARU. Mr ROLLESTON asked the Minister for Immigration whether it is the intention of the Government to give effect to either of the alternative recommendations of the Immigration Officer at Timaru, with, respect to immigration to that place ? Mr O’RORKE explained the course pursued by the Government in the matter by which it appeai-ed that Bonse hitch had occurred owing to the difficulty of landing immigrants direct at Timaru. MAORI LEXICON. Mr STEWARD asked the Government what is the total sum paid to Mr Colenso, to date, for the preparation of a Maori Lexicon ; what portion of the work, if any, is ready for the press ; when it will be published, and when the complete work will be issued ? Mr M'LEAN said that the whole amount paid on account of the work was £llBO ; and that was up to March, 1870. After that date nothing had been paid. It was understood that another £IOO would be paid upon completion of the work. He understood from Mr Colenso that sickness had been the cause of the delay. The work was still in the possession of Mr Colenso. RETURN OF MONEYS PAID FOR LAND POE RAILWAY PURPOSES. Mr BRADSHAW asked the Minister for Public Works when he will lay on the table, the return, ordered last session, of the amount paid to owners of private property for lands required for railway Durposes? Mr RICHARDSON replied that the correspondence was in a forward state, and would be produced in a few days. NEW BILLS. On the motion of Mr Steward, the Juvenile Offenders Bill, and a bill to disqualify persons holding publican’s licenses for the office of Justices of the Peace, were introduced and read a first time. On the motion of the Hon Mr Reynolds, the Marine Surveyors’ Bill was introduced and read a first time. On the motion of the Hon Mr M'Lean, an Act to make better provision for the administration of native reserves throughout tbe colony, was introduced and read a first time. The Hon Mr Richardson introduced the Washdjkfl and Pleasant Point Railway Bill, which was read a first time. The Patea Education Board Bill (Mr Kelly) was introduced and read a first time. SHIPS CHARTERED BY THE AGENT- GENEEAI. Mr REEYES moved for a return of all ships chartered by the Agent-General, during the present year, for the conveyance of emigrants to the colony, with the names of the owners or agents, and the price per head paid for conveyance. Mr RICHARDSON said the Government would have no objection. Mr JOHNSTON proceeded to criticise the contracts which had been entered into by the Government for the bringing out of i®® 1 ’ grants to the colony, and by which they ha. paid as much as £l7 per head for the passage of immigrants, when they could haT saved £3 10s or £4 by accepting the ten eI of Shaw, Savill and Co, instead of S l J ia % , monopoly for a term to the newly-w r ® shipping company. To lose money W . way was just as bad as pitching it into sea. . iv ; Mr O’RORKE deprecated creating a ■ cussion on the matter at that time, especw ; j when all the returns were to be laid u P° n .i g j j table. He thought these would show v J the Government had not acted unwise; j encouraging the new shipping companyMr LUCKIE said that the hot of Savill and Co reducing their rates n e formation of the new company, as well 83 j of their attempt to treat with it* a3 A a( J positive of the injurious monopoly tbey been so long wielding. Motion agreed to. WASTE LANDS COMMITTEE. The name of the Hon Mr Reyno _ discharged from the Waste Lands mittee. MONEY BILL.--Leave was granted to the Hon -W. tO . herbert to move, that the House > morrow, resolve itself into corn* lll consider of giving leave to introduc g intituled an Act to authorise the ral loan of two hundred and ten cer . pounds, for the purpose of construe j tain works of public utility in the P of Wellington^and for Charging tbe borrowed against the said province. r, GOLDFIELDS COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr White, eeTS aGoldfields Committee be increased

teen, and that the name of Mr Collins be added thereto, some discussion ensued. Mr WAKEFIELD pointed out that Wellington and Canterbury were not represented oh the committee. Mr Meetyn wanted to know what use representatives of those provinces would be on such a committee, as they knew nothing of the question of mining. Mr Rolleston protested strongly against any such idea being allowed to grow up into the practice of the House. Mr O’Conor thought such committee could not be too large. Mr Runny said that he had found from his parliamentary experience that those peculiar committees often derived considerable assistance from hon members who, from not having any special knowledge on the matters dealt with, might be called outsiders. Mr White, in replying, said that he was confident that the name of the gentlemen he proposed to add to the committee had been omitted accidentally. He entirely disagreed with the sentiments of the hon member for Mount Ida. Ihe motion was agreed to. SUPPLY. It was agreed that the House resolve itself into committee to-morrow for the purpose of granting a supply to her Majesty. JOINT STOCK COMPANIES BILL. Mr GILLIE 3 moved the second reading of the bill, and explained its object. It wsb read a second time. CANTERBURY WATER SUPPLY BILL. Mr ROLLESTON moved the second reading of this bill. He explained that it was analagous to bills for the introduction of water upon goldfields ; with this difference, that the water was for irrigating purposes, and to enable a very large tract of country to be settled upon, but which was now impossible for the want of water. The bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed that day week. THE PRISONS BILL. Mr BATHGATE moved the second reading of the bill, and explained its provisions, which were simply to consolidate and amend the laws relating to persons throughout the colony without being prejudicial to any interests. The bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed that day week. WELLINGTON COLLEGE LOAN BILL. On the motion of Mr Fitzherbert the House went into committee of the whole to consider of giving leave to introduce a bill to authorize tbe appropriation for certain purposes of the annual sum of one thousand pounds for four years, out of the provincial revenue of the Province of Wellington. Leave was granted, and the Wellington College Loan Bill was read a first time. The House adjourned at five o’clock. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Thursday, 24th July, 1873. The Hon the Speaker took the chair at two o’olock. PRODUCTION OP CORRESPONDENCE. The Hon Mr SEWELL moved that an address be presented to his Excellency the Governor, requesting him to be pleased to cause to be laid upon the table of the Council copies of any despatches not already printed from his Excellency the Governor and Acting Governor to the Secretary of State, relative to the Ministerial changes during aud subsequent to the last session of the Assembly ; and also relative to the native meetings at Maungatautari and Ngaruawahia, and the Governor’s visits to native districts, since last session, including that to Kawhia harbor; and of all replies of the Secretary of State to such despatches ; and of all other correspondence not already printed between his Excellency the Governor and the Secretary of State, relative to the public affairs of the colony. He (Mr Sewell) had been surprised at the silence which had been observed by the Government upon the important changes which had taken place in the Ministry during the past year. Such events form part of the history of the colony, and it was highly desirable that the Legislature of the country should be acquainted with them. The ordinary practice appeared to be that the Government supplied all papers and correspondence which they deemed necessary; and-that it was competent for any member of the Legislature to move for such correspondence as he deemed advisablo to lay before the Parliament. He (Mr Sewell) was of opinion that all official correspondence betw'eeu the Governor and the Home Government should be printed. It rather strange that the Home Government should be informed upon matters connected with the colony, and the Legislature of fhe colony denied the information. There was only one way at present of communicating *ith the Home Office, aud that was through the Governor. If Parliament were denied the results of any such correspondence, the best thing to be done would be for the Parliament itself to have power to correspond with the Home authorities. The Hon Dr POLLEN said the motion was mther of a sweeping character, as it might fimbrace correspondence on questions still P«nding, and the production of which might eeriousij hamper the Government in dealing **th these questions. There was no difficulty m acceding to the first part of the motion, with regard to the latter portion, embraces correspondence on all the public affairs of be colony, it might be impolitic to produce *nem. Ihs Hon Mr SEWELL had no objection *ords to the following effect being added . motion :—“ That could be produced Without inconvenience to the public service.” The Hon Dr POLLEN said the matter was ot >e which he would leave entirely to the disttetion of the Council. Ihe motion was agreed to with the addig° n of the words proposed to be added by Mr THE COUNCIL CHAMBER. th'O ® )n a Pl a^n BAILLE moved that 0,8 Council concurs with the recommendation

contained in the report of the House Committee, presented on Tuesday, the 22nd of July, with respect to the supply of curtains for the improvement of the acoustic properties of the Chamber, and the accomodation required for the seating of members. The Hon Mr MANTELL thought nothing should be immediately done in the matter. The effect.of hanging curtains had been tried in the other house, and was found to be not so satisfactory as anticipated. The Hon the SPEAKER said that he had spoken to the reporters in the gallery of the Conncil Chamber , in regard to the acoustic properties, and they had informed him that they could not hear more than one-half of what was said. The motion was agreed to. PUBLIC TRUST OFFICE ACT AMENDMENT BILL The Hon Dr POLLEN said the Public Trust Office Act had been framed last session. It had been found that the business of the office was not a 3 great as might reasonably have been expected, but this was owing, no doubt, to the absence from duty of the head of the office, who had been otherwise engaged. The chief objecc of the present bill was to give the public trustee the power of dealing with the powers now vested in the Curators of intestate estates. It was also thought that great advantages would be derived from having one central office to deal with the property of lunatics and deceased persons. The Hon Mr SEWELL said the bill was not one amending tbe Public Trust Office Act, but was merely for the purpose of abolishing the curator of intestate estates, and investing their power in one central office in Wellington, The bill seemed to be founded entirely on misconception. The law was, that if a man died without making a will the next of kin administered the estate. But here it was very often the case that a person died without leaving any relative in the colony, and in that ease the duties of administration devolved upon the curator of intestate estates. The law creating these officers was passed when he (Mr Sewell) was Attorney-General, and was almost a copy of a Victorian Act. He did not think that that Act was a perfect model, and believed that there should be some provision for looking after the curators of intestate estates The consequence of passing the present bill would be, that if a man died in Auckland or Dunedin, say, his property would be administered by a gentleman (Mr Woodward) residing in Wellington, and justice would not likely be done in dealing with the property. He would move that the bill be read a second time that day six months. The Hon Mr HART pointed out one or two clauses in the bill which wouid, in a measure, meet the objections urged by Mr Sewell. By clause 4 it would be seen that it was not compulsory that if a man died at a distance his property should be administei’ed in Wellington. The Hon Mr WATERHOUSE said that there was considerable force in the objections of Mr Sewell, but they were not sufficient to warrant the bill being rejected. He thought the defects of the bill could be remedied in committee. He was one who assisted to pass the Act now in force, and he looked upon it at the time in the light of an experiment. They should be careful in the way they proceeded in the matter, and hoped the bill would be thoroughly considered in committee by gentlemen well qualified for the task. The Hon Dr POLLEN thought the policy of appointing a public trustee had been generally recognized ; and if such were done, there was no reason why powers should not be given him to appoint deputies. He desired to give the Council every facility for amending the bill in committee. The bill was read a second time, and ordered to be considered in committee. THE BANK HOLIDAYS BILL was considered in committee, and progress reported. The Sheriffs’ Act Amendment Bill was read a third time. The Council adjourned at 3.30 p.m., until the following day, at 2 p.m. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Thursday, July 24th. The Speaker took the chair at half-past two o’clock. NOTICES OF MOTION. A great manj r notices of motion were given. incorrectness of printed papers. Mr O’CONOR called the attention of the House to an extraordinary error in a printed paper. The SPEAKER explained that the error had arisen through the Chairman of the Committee neglecting to read the report of the committee over which he presided. SHIPPING RETURNS. Mr CURTIS asked the Commissioner of Customs upon what principle the returns just laid upon the table, showing the number, tonnage, and crews of vessels which have been entered inwards and cleared outwards during the ydar 1872, have been compiled. He wished to draw the attention of the House to some remarkable .discrepancies which were calculated to lead to very erroneous impressions regarding the amount of trade transacted at different ports, especially as regards the ports of Wellington and Nelson. The hon member then proceeded to quote statistics bearing out his remarks. The figures went to show that the trade and number of vessels recorded for Wellington were four times that of Nelson. If these returns could not be published more correctly, he thought it better they were not published at all. Mr REYNOLDS said the principle observed was to credit the arrival of vessels from foreign ports to ports in New Zealand ; but as these vessels sometimes carried cargo for more than one port in the colony, they were put down to the first port of call. He understood that the

Collector of Customs at Nelson put down the Melbourne steamers as arrivals from places outside the colony. He was free to admit that his own opinion was in accordance with that of the hon member—that foreign vessels should be put down to the whole colony without mentioning any port. SPECIFICATIONS OF PATENTS. Mr O’NEILL asked the Premier what steps have been taken by the Government towards carrying out the resolution of this House last session with reference to the preparation of abstracts of specifications of patents ? Mr VOGEL said the work had been in hand some time, but from various causes was not yet completed, though he expected he would soon be in a position to lay it before the House. THE MINT QUESTION. Mr O’NEILL asked the Premier whether the recommendations of the Royal Mint Committee of last session had been taken into consideration by the Government ; and, if so, what steps have been taken to carry them out ? The hon member read the report of the committee on the matter. Mr VOGEL said that the Secretary of State had been communicated with on the question, —and it would be seen by the despatches that his reply was unfavorable to such a scheme at present DUNSTAN TELEGRAPH LINES. Mr T. L. SHEPHERD asked the Premier whether the Government intend to extend the telegraph, during the present financial year, from Naseby to Clyde, via Black’s and St Bathan’s ? Mr VOGEL said tbe information he had obtained was to the effect that the cost of the line would be within £3OOO and £4OOO ; and before the Government agreed to spend that amount they would like some further information as to the actual requirements of the township named, and how the expense was to be met. GOLD MINING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. Mr BRADSHAW asked the Government whether it intends to bring in a measure this session to authorize mining for gold and silver on private properties ? Mr VOGEL said the Government did not propose to bring down any bill on the subject this session; As the neighbouring colony of Victoria had legislated upon the subject in its last Parliament, it would be an excellent opportunity for this colony to watch the effect of that legislation. There were a great many points in connection with the subject whieh required the most serious consideration. SALE OF AURIFEROUS LAND. Mr BRADSHAW asked the Premier whether the Government had received any report from the commission appointed by the Provincial authorities of Otago, in accordance with recommendation of Goldfields Committee, and concurred in by this House, to enquire into the sale of fifty acres of known auriferous land by Waste Land Board of Otago to Mr M‘Donald, the situation of which land is at Switzers, Waikaia Electorate ; and, if so, when would the report be laid on the table of the House? Mr O’RORKE said the report was in the hands of the printers, and would be laid upon the table in a few days. GOVERNMENT OFFICES AT LYTTELTON. Mr WEBB asked the Minister for Public Works what steps, if any, were being taken by the Government towards the erection of the customs, post, and telegraph offices at Lyttelton. Mr RICHARDSON said it was the intention of the Government to ask for a sum of money for the erection of the necessary offices. The plans were already part prepared. RAILWAY MATERIAL. Mr MURRAY asked the Ministers in what manner materials required for the public service of New Zealand are procured in Europe; also, if in the construction ot railways the Government had made provision for tbe possibility of double linos being required. Mr RICHARDSON, in reply to the first question, said that as far as he was aware the lowest tender was always accepted. To the second, he could say that generally provision had not been made for double lines, the appropriations made not admitting of any such provision. NEW BILLS. The following new hills were introduced and read a first time:—Plans of Towns Regulation Bill (Mr O'Neil) ; The Education Bill (the Hon Mr Vogel). MR W. FINNIMORE. Major ATKINSON moved for a copy of the correspondence, if any, between any officer of the Government and Mr W. Finnimore, of Wanganui, about the purchase of a large block of confiscated land upon the West Coast. Mr M'LEAN said there was such correspondence, and he would lay it upon the table at once. After some discussion, the correspondence was read to the House, amidst suppressed laughter. CANTERBURY EMIGRANT SHIPS. Mr GILLIES moved that a copy of a letter addressed to Messrs Owen and Graham, by Shaw, Saville and Co, and transmitted to the Colonial Secretary, on the subject of the chartering of emigrant ships by the AgentGeneral, be laid on the table and printed. Mr VOGEL said the Government had no objection whatever to lay the letter upon the table. goldfields rewardMr BRADSHAW moved that the regulations made in accordance with a resolution of this House last session, under which rewards will be paid for the discovery of new goldfields be laid on the table of this House. He was aware that regulations had been published in the Government Gazette, but he did not think that the regulations would enable the Government to determine what amount of gold came from a particular field. His object

in making the motion was to have the regulations laid before the Goldfields Committee with the view of being improved. Mr O’RORKE said that the Government had given serious consideration to the matter, and had considered that the yield of gold from a district was a better test of its productiveness than the number of men upon it ; but the papers would be laid upon the table, and he hoped to receive the assistance of the Goldfields Committee. SOUTHLAND LAND. Mr WEBSTER moved that there be laid upon the table copies of all correspondence or communications between the Government and the provincial authorities of Otago, with reference to, or occurring prior to the issue of, the Order in Council raising the minimum price of land in that part of the colony known as the late province of Southland. He had no right to assume but that in acting so arbitrary as to raise the price of land from £1 to £3 per acre, it had been done for the benefit of the colonial estate ; though he doubted the advisableness of so violent a change, and one which must have exercised a depressing effect on very many largely interested in land. In asking this question he had not the remotest desire to give it any political aspect, but he would like to know the actual opinion of the Government on the establishment of this minimum, and state with wh&t view the proclamation making the change had been issued. Mr VOGEL said that there would be no objection to lay the papers on the table, although they were only telegrams. He would see by them that the Government had carefully considered the matter ; and they considered that it was better to keep back the sale of land except to actual settlers and for the legitimate purposes of settlement. Tbe Government were anxious to prevent as much as possible land speculators swallowing up large tracts of land for purposes of profit, and this could be done in no other way than by raising the price. GOVERNMENT banking arrangements. Mr WEBSTER moved that there be laid upon the table, copies of all written agreements at present in force between the Government and its banking or financial agents ; and further, the substance of any verbal agreements which in any way affects the banking, financial, or exchange operations of the Government of New Zealand. Mr VOGEL said the Government would furnish the papers asked for. He was not aware of any change whatever in the old arrangements. The only papers coming within the category referred to by the bon member, and which had not been laid upon the table, were some regarding the half-million placed in Australia, but these would be furnished also. The papers were ordered to be laid upon the table. VOLUNTEER LAND SCRIP REPEAL BILL. Mr GILLIES, in moving the second reading of the bill, said it had been in tbe power of Superintendents of Provinces to issue scrip to volunteers to tbe extent of £3O. Owing to this state of things they found that much of the best land in ihe colony, but especially in Auckland, was being alienated at something like 2s 6d per acre. His object in bringing forward the Act was to give Superintendents and Provincial Councils power to cease to grant certificates under the Act of 1865. Mr M'LEAN hoped that the hon member would give him time, by postponing the consideration of the bill, to enable him to have a conference with the various Superintendents, in order to protect the interests of volunteers who had become entitled to land for services rendered to the colony. With the view of preserving these interests he would like to introduce some clauses of a protective nature into the bill. Mr PEARCE said that his experience had always induced in him the belief that the Act of 1865 was a wise measure ; and if such a measure was wise eight years ago, when there was a large Imperial army in the colony, it was still more necessary now to encourage volunteering. In 1867 the Provincial Council of Wellington passed an ordinance recognising the right of volunteers to a certain value of land ; and during tbe operation of that ordinance volunteering was never better supported or in a more flourishing condition Looking at the state of volunteering at the present day, he would ask the House not to judge of the good results of past expenditure by the present strength or weakness of the volunteer force of the provinces. There were thousands of young men who had gone through a course of training and retired from the esrvice; but they had been educated to bear arms, and he felt satisfied that when occasion arose they would show themselves not only willing, but qualified, to do good service to the colony. He felt bound to say that it was only those who had been volunteers who knew anything of the large amount of toil and drudgery which had to be undergone—day by day, week by week, for a series of years by every earnest volunteer; and he hoped the House would hesitate before it withdrew that encouragement at present held out to volunteers. As the mover of the bill purposed to amend it in that direction he would not oppose its second reading ; otherwise, he should have felt bound to move, as an amendment, that it be read that day six months. Mr GILLIES said that however desirable it might be to encourage volunteering it was certainly not desirable to lock up the waste lands of a province from sale. At any rate, he thought that these “ rights” or privileges should be placed in the hands of Superintendents of provinces. The bill was ordered to be committed that day week. THE AUCKLAND MINERAL LEASES ACT AMENDMENT BILL was read a second time. WELLINGTON LOAN BILL. The House went into committee of th whole to consider of giving leave to intyeduo*

a bill intituled an Act to authorize the raising I of a loan of two hundred and ten thousand pounds, for the purpose of constructing certain works of public utility in the province of Wellington, and for charging the sums so borrowed against the said province, Mr FITZHERBERT promised to go fully into the merits of .fhe bill he proposed to introduce on the second reading. Mr VOGEL said the Government had no intention of entering into the question involved in the resolution at that stage ; but they proposed to deal with the whole question when the Financial Statement came down, which would be on Tuesday next. The resolution was read a first time and reported. The bill was then read a first time, and the second reading fixed for Wednesday next. The House went into COMMITTEE OE SUPPLY to consider a message received from his Excellency the Governor, recommending the appropriation of sufficient money for the payment of salaries and wages to tho 30th June, 1874“ _ Mr VOGEL said he should like the House to pass this bill through all its stages, either that day or the next, as their supply of spending money was nearly exhausted. The impressed supply asked for was £250,000. Mr GILLIE 3 said that, in what he was going to say, he did nob wish to appear as the leader of the Opposition, nor did he wish to oppose the bill in any way. He merely desired to point out that the necessity for such a bill simply rose through the House not being called together at the termination of the financial year. Had the Government adhered to the usual constitutional practice of convening Parliament before the termination of the financial year, and at once placing the estimates upon the table, the necessity for these imprest bills would not arise. That was the only way of getting rid of patching up these irregularities. Mr VOGEL said that if the Government adopted the course recommended by the lion member the probability would be that the House would set its face against the practice, because they would decidedly object to passing or even considering the estimates before the end of the financial yeai and before they were made aware of the means at the disposal of the country. Besides, such a course would involve the meeting of Parliament sooner than was consonant with the wishes of hon members. Ho doubt if there was a general expression of opinion from hon members for the adoption of such course, the Government would feel bound to defer to it. Mr WOOD said that if the House had been called somewhat later the convenience of hon members would have been better consulted. They had been here some time, and yet they had nothing to do. There was no question likely to arise at present to impede what was considered on all hands as the poliey of the colony. The bill was read a first time, and on the motion of Mr Vogel the standing orders were suspended in order to enable the Imprest Supply Bill to pass through its various stages to-morrow. JOINT STOCK COMPANIES BILL, was reported, read a third time, and passed. THE CANTERBURY CATHEDRAL SQUARE BILL, having for its object the vesting of certain property in the hands of the Superintendent, instead of her Majesty the Queen, was read a second time. SHEBIPPS ACT AMENDMENT BILL. The SPEAKER announced that he had received a message from the Legislative Council, informing the House that they had passessed the Sheriffs Act Amendment Bill, and asking for the concurrence of the House of Representatives. The House adjourded at 4.40 p.m.