ILLUSTRATING HANSARD. (BY TELEGRAPH.) (FROM OUR OWN REPOTER.) Wellington, September 1.

North Otago Times, Volume XXXVI, Issue 9300, 2 September 1898, Page 3

ILLUSTRATING HANSARD. (BY TELEGRAPH.) (FROM OUR OWN REPOTER.) Wellington, September 1.

To-nighb the Government renewed fche debate on the illustration of Hansard, The Premier had moved the Issue of Mr John M'Kenzio's map along with Hansard. The Printing Committee had reported favorably, bub lofb the decision to tho Speaker, who departed this afternoon for Auckland. 11 Why was nob tho Speaker brought in to decide?" asked Mr Orowthor, In tho course of tho debate, and an hon. membor replied : " Because he would have ruled against the Government." This is said to be the reason for tho Speaker's departure, Mr Pirsmi told the House that in order to gain time, and for tho purpose of hardening up their followers the Premier had pub up Messrs Hall-Jones, Mills, and M 'Go wan, one aftor another, to continue the debate. " Why," exclaimed Mr Plrani, "certain weak«baoked supporters wore being threatened Into supporting tho Promier against their wills, 1 ' Ma Lawry : How do you know. Mr Pirani : I gob it first hand. If I had received it from tho membor of ParHell X should have been moro oautipus in accepting it, bub hon, members, added Mr Plranl, wero threatened with no more invitations to Governmonb caucuses if they voted according to thoir consclonoo In this matter. Mr Dunoin ; That wonld be a gain to fcho Lefb Wing. Mr Pirani : And a good job too. Mr Ward : It would cut both waysMr Pirani t Tho mombor for Awarua Bays lb would cub both ways, bub as the Hon. Mr Ward has threatened bo join the Opposition rathor than see the Loft Wing in ofh'oo, we know in what direction Awarua would out. As Mr Morriaon interjected Mr Pirani expressed pleaenro at hearing tho Promior'a phonograph spoak thus. Mr Pirani hit about him valiontly, m he declared the Government was wasting fche time of the House and the money of the people. Captain Itassoll (lifted tho discussion to a higher level. The Opposition was not against the insertion' of the map as a map. They desired its publication, bnb they protested against its incorporation in Hansard, as lb hxd been decided by Sir William Fiizhsrborb thab no long extracts from books, or extraneous matter, •hould bo Inserted in Hansard. To make Hansard a party engine was to endanger the liberty of tho people. In tho first days of Hansard it was ruled that All complaints ab^ab what was to bo published were to be referred nob to the Premier or thu Government, but to the Speaker, who had sole control. Some members were afraid of a dissolution if they voted agalnsb the Government, In this matter they need nob fear that. Bub, like ft little petulant boy, the Minister for Lands must bo given this lump of sugar to keep him from resigning ; bub he characterised tho Minister for Lands' aotlozs as a pleco of vindictive maliolous epito, lb was time the Government took up moro important business, and ho moved the adjournment of the debate, and asked the House to leave the Speaker to decide as the committee oaggestod. Tho motion gave riso to long and aorimonious debate, and it was ultimately negatived by 32 to 28, a majority of four for tho Government. Tho three Maori members voted with fcho Premier and it Is generally agreed thab thoy know very libblo of tho ques« (ion. In the absence of tho Speaker the matter wl'l now bo decided on purely party lines j for the Acting-Speaker is nob likely to oxorciaa his prerogative against tho Promier. Ab midnight Mr Montgomery finished a speech in which he said thab If this map were admitted they most) open Hansard for the admission of everything exhibited, The debate dragged drearily on, being at times relieved byafow personalities In a lighter vein. Tho wholo business boro testimony to tho looseness and want of eameatnosa aboub public business which seemo to have taken possession of fche present Parliament. The Minietor for Lands had declared, "I have said that map ie going into Hansard, and into Hansard it will go." This attitude to this mosb BeU-willed and obstinate Minister," said Mr Taylor, " might mean wrecking tho Ministry." Mr Allen oontinued the dobato till ono o'clock, when ib was takon up by Mr Masßey, who was followed by tho Hon, J. G. Ward.

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