A and P. Association.

Manawatu Standard, Volume XL, Issue 7352, 21 July 1902, Page 4

A and P. Association.

(JllfHV KATKS. Continued from Saturday's issue.) llr J. Stuclsoy expressed Iho opinion but this Association was in the wrong. Jo commended Mr Cobcn for Hie spirit io had shown in tlie matter, and thought t should bo no'od upon. Thera was no loubt wo had jumped Iho date of the Janlorbury Association, which had for ,!io lust twenty-five .years held their hnv in tho week tho Oth of Kcvoubcr ;:nno in. Ho certainly thought the .:3Mitnilteo should reconsider the matter. Tl-.o President Bttttcd that thoro Imtl i>r-pn a very fnirattcndnnco nttho special •: s*i.t:iifj hold lust wick, and ho could not ■ i' his way to rc-opc-n iho matter unless i:;i int'ciing was unanimous on the ,|ne.=t!on. Mr Oubcn quoted rul^ o[ this Assatrillion, which 1)0 considered would help the I'leM-lcnt in pnlving the difficulty. Mr A. H .Uusscil slated thit he had -poken and noted lust \v:cl: under llie impression that the Canterbury Association had taken our dales. Liter information, h» admitted, pus another complexion en the matter. Mr McHnrdy ngived with previously expressed remarks, but ruHed that if it was found this Association had advanced too far t;> alter its dntos it should ccrtiinlv ndhcre to them. Mr Stuckoy moved that Iho qu*-srion !)j rc-opencil. Seconded by Mr Birch and c-irrird li'ianiiuou^y. Mr Siufkoy iilso moved that the show ■■c liolil ilio wwk following the Canterbury fhosv. Seconded hy Mr F. Nathan, who slated (list he did not soo liow lh» Association could do anything else iinjor rub 17, which st-ilcil the show must [allow d\ntcrliii:,v. If-they had decided upon their proper dues then ours must follow tha week after. Mr.larus remarked that Ilawora nnd New Plymouth shows would havo to be moved forward oho week. Ms- Bun and moved an amendment, that tirg.-.-nt commui-icalious i) 3 opened with the Ilawora mi-J New I'lyinculli Assoc'n.tio- s relative to tho datte. .:'ccon"iid by Mr .T-iirvia nnd carried. Mr Johnston slated Tho Kcw X'lyiuoutli and Wangnnui date? wcro fixed, and lie understood iho Xlawcia show wished • o have this matter cleared up bc-foio .bciding upon thi-ir di'.tcs. Mr Johnston a.idcd that ho had snen Mr Gcovgj Clifford in Wellington, nnd had been tcld they won not going to alter their dates f-.ji'ai.yor:?. J!,- (Sir GeorgrO hud co:i----s-idercd thb show would havo bii held in I'onlliot v.iih Ohrisle''Uich Una year and diitcs could bo arrange-1 nost year. lie (Mr Johnston) hid painted out that he thought it very unfair of tho Canttrbur.y Association, but. had been told, that the in'tev Association had to fall in with lhe dates of tho U.J.O. Sir Qeorgo hud eeemed indifferent as to what took place. Several di legates, however, wero oppost-tl to tho clashing of dates. Ho still thought the racing could take place on the Ist November, and tho wholo carnival end on tho 10th. Mr Cohen pointed out that they were not discussing tho question of racing dates hut of the A. and P. Associations. It appeared to bo tlio general desire thnt tho clashing should bo avoided. ■ Discussion terininattd at thin stage ponding receipt of replies from tun New Plymouth nnd Ilawrnv Association?. W. AND 31 RAILWAY. A letter was read from Iho Palmoraston North Chambor of Commerce relative to the Government intentions as regards the \V. and M. lt-iilwuy. Mr Cohen .stiuc-d it appeared to him tha tho object of tho deputation ws.3 to.obtain straight - out answers to certain qn.-.Tion:.-." Ho wanted to know if the Uovermont was going t:i do anything likely to ir-jure the interests of this district, f..".d it, wus of paramount importance, thnt tho settlers should haya represeutatiou on the deputation. .Mr It. S. Abraham stated that Sir o-ieph Ward had mado two distinct Jtatc-m-nts on tho subject. One, made somti titno mo, certainly oxprtascd the Government intention to block tho railway. Hi) considers lhe present a fa-w-uraMi! opportunity io wait upon Sv Joseph with this question, aad ho hoped tha p/oject would bo supported by die romtni'tco. Me Birch thought tho question wus a very important one, not only as affecting Palmcrston, but also tho whole caast. Ho thought tho Association should bo represented on tho deputation. I', wns decided, en the motion of Mr Air,ahum, thnt Mows Hodder, Kussell, t-nd Iho Presidotit should n.prosont tho Assoeia:i"ii on tho deputation. MISCELLANEOUS. It w--is d.-eicif d net to accept the trophy offered by tu,' Singer Machine Co.up.m tho condition!) att-iched. A uiiL'ilar nourso wns adopted as regards Higgin & Co.'s prize for butter. It was decided to allow poultry to bo taken r.n tho grounds tho first day, and infs Ihevo fjr exhibition during show days. snow dates. Ko reply having been received from tho Northern. Associations relative to their show dates, Mr Stuc!>ey's motion that the show be held a week later was brought forward. Mr Cohen stated ho did not think the motion should be carried till they were satisfied they wore not interfering with the dates of tho Northorn Associations. Mr A. 11. Russell considered it was bolter to tidhero to tho dates already selected. In previous years very few entries had b'en received, from Christchurch, aad ho did not think there wero more i-han 100 visitors irnm tho South, while very few went from hero.- He did not see any necrssity for considering tho clashing of dates with Christchurch. The rales of the Manawatu AEsaciation provided that wo should follow Canterbury, but on this occasion wo could uot, and it was better that wo should stand as we wera. Mr Dunk thought it would be a grave mistake to clash with Wanganui. Two wrongs never mado a, right, aad wo should certainly not tako their dates, especially as we already knew they had Bcieo.ted them. Mr Of. M. Johnston stated Wangtmui had arranged for the 19th and 20th Novcmbtr because we bud seleoted the. I week previous. If wo decided to hold oni; show on the 10th. 20th and 21st November, AVatiganui would go back to thu waok following. Ho thought it a great pity to clash, rather than do that he would bo in favour of going fov- ■ ward to Novembor sth, 6th and 7ih. i Mr 9. B. Lancaster thought if wo 1 took Wanganui dates wo should bo 5 blamed for upsetting all tho dates on f the coast. ■ Mr Cohen moved as an atnendujoat, 3 " That tho matter of tho alteration of show dates be loft to the Finance Committeo with power to add to their number, to communicate and negotiate with Wanganui, Ha wera and Now Plymouth ' with tho object of getting their shows i put off one week later, in which case tho i Manawatu show bo altered to November 19tb, 20th, and 21st, provided this is given effect to during tho bnsuing week. Seconded by Mr J. M.' Johnston. Tho President ogreod with Mr Russell. Ho whs decidodly in favour of adhering to tho dates eelceted. Mr Cohen stated the object of his ! motion was to honestly cover up any mistake that bad beon made, if possible. , Unless something dofinito could be : nrraugod during tho week, thsn it should , be understood the dittos remain as they 1 are. If the dates bud to bo adhered to, 1 wo could not be twitted with cot having honos-tly tried to do our best to alter them. Mr Stucliey deprecated any show of . fueling in tbo matter, making special rofcrenco to ths statements of Bouiheru papars. Tho amendment was then put and ■■arried. : Mr J. M. Johnston moved, That if in the opinion of this meeting no satisfactory nrrnngoment can be mado as to . show dntop, tho show be held on Nov. ! sth, Oth, and 7lh Tho mover pointed nt that Hawkn's Bay breeders had al- ; rendy objected to having to keep their ! sbctp in thu wool, and it was much . luocu serious to keep tho dates back ibnn i to put thotu forward. Mr M'Hardy thought tho show wou'd suflor considerably by holding it on tho days suggoitod, as it would follow too soon aftoit Cartorton. Tho President stated that Hawko's Bay exhibitors had already complained of the three days' show, and if this amondtuont was carried throe shows would follow one upon ouothor. . Breeders considered their stock should have a rest between shows, otherwiso they lost their bloom. Tils amnudmont was lost. Mr Dunk moved, and Mr Birch seconded, That provided satisfactory arrangements cannot bo made witb the : northern associations as to dates, tho ; original dates selected by this aseocia- ■ lion bo adhered to.—Carried. i Tho general details of the infantry exercises were left to Major Dunk and : Lieut. Pringlo to arrange Messrs Birch ■ nnd Gilliesr donated £2 oach to the prize fund. Tho report of tho dairying sub-cor-n• mitteerecommended tho followingprizba uhould bo awarded :—£2s, £20, £15, i iGIO, and £5, provided tnere are ten , entrants who secure 250 points out of i tho 500 possible. i Tho meeting adjourned . aftor transacting routine business.