HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume XXII, Issue 7542, 12 August 1886, Page 2

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Wednesday, August 5. . The House met at 2.30 p.m. . . HOSPITALLS AND CHARITABLE INSTITU- •■• TIONS BILL. % ■ ' Sir Kobert Stout moved that tlie amendments made by the Legislative Council in the Hospitals and Charitable Institutions Bill be agreed to, with the exception of the amendment to separate Piako from the Thames and add it on to Waikato. Mr Wiiyto moved that that amendment , also be agreed to, and after some discus- . sion the motion was carried by 39 to 28. NEW ZEALAND AGRICULTURAL COMPANY. Sir George Grey desired to bring up a , personal matter with reference to a speech made. a few nights ago by Mr.Ballance, in . which he referred to liim (Sir George Grey) as being a promoter of the Now Zealand - Agricultural Company, and had said that . there were promoters ' arid promoters -of . ■ -.that company. He wished. to ask if Mr Ballanco used the words attributed to him, , as they had been sent to the newspapers? Mr Ballance admitted he had used those - words, but in doing so he gave his reasons for using theni, and those reasons Sir v George Grey had not given. He wished V-: to say that ho had nothing to do with send- ' ing his remarks to the newspapers.' ■Sir George Grey said he gave the state- ' ■ ,ment an absolute • denial. Ho would bo sorry to be a promoter of that, company. Mr Ballance said he had spoken from memory of what had taken" place inlß7B. : He hau since spoken of the matter to one or two ot his colleagues at that time, and. ■ they said that Sir George Grey'had given his sanction to the company. . . Sir George Grey asKed whether Mr Ballance stated that he (Sir George) was .. a promoter of that company ? ' Mi- Ballance said that- his recollection was that lie stated Hint Sir George Grey ' had given his sanction to it. ■ Sir George Grey moved the adjournment of the House, and gave a detailed history of the case. . " Sir Robert Stout said that his recollection was that Sir George Grey had cordially approved of the company Ho believed if the price of land had i^'t up the Agricultural Company would have ' been very beneficial to the 1 colony. Sir George Grey denied that ho had ever approved of the company. The matter then dropped, . ; questions. : . Keplying to questions, it was stated— 1. That if any amendment were necessary before next session in the Elections petition's Act, .'the Corrupt Practices Jfre- -, : vention * Act, and other Electoral Act#'. a bill would be. brought down dealing wjtu' them, i ■ ' 2. That £2000 would be placed on the " - supplementary estimates in recognition of ■ ':• Sir William Fox'sscrvice as Commissioner ! under the West Coast Settlement Act.- '\ 3. That the Government could not at ■ : once order timber and iron work for the ' . cylinders of : the railway .bridge across the Pohangimi river on the.Napior and. <■ Pftlmerston railway. • : ' ( ' . '-;'-;. 4. That the Government would afford -„ every encouragomerit to' the flax industry. ; REPRESENTATION MILL. ' '/ : ,'' Mr Koss resumed the debate on the ,v Kepresontation Bill, lie thought an im- .- ..• proyenient might Lc made in the constfc : ;; tiition of tho Board. .If population ytcm- "v. taken as a basis ho admitted that the "i',y North" lsland was entitled to an increase.^rr'J but if "taxation were considered the South ■.*".-■;•': Island was entitled, to. a pfejjonderanco. „Vi Ho supported the amalgamation of 'the '•'.••,- ----fiity. electorates and. a reduction-. of;--. : p. nmnbera. • ' ■ „, i" ,h\ "■?■:' Mr. Pyko disapproved the constitution;;. ,:* of thc.tfoaiflj Sot vfas'Uo much eno.mQT^dr;;c^ of .- avitoraat\baVreyrea'onla.ilon;-' TKe-pw-'\K^-sent number of m'omhera waa not too great.;,;./;' lle ; . objected- to population as .tlie r 'sola'.:y^ Irnsis of raorosenfttfionj'and (?oi/recateij\t^ .^tio cry of : 2t6rtli n^inst Soutli.""JEf >166;|,V.::i

toratos . were to bo amalgamated they might as well apply the principle to" the whole colony. He contended that single electorates. 1 were/.best,. and that the proposal for. amalgamation was retrogressive. ,;•;• If- this bill were ,passed the Government ' 'would not sit 1 long on those benches next session. Ho intended to vote against the • : „■ second reading. .'.•','• Mr J. C. Buckland urged those who „...., objected to tho bill to vote, boldly against ■ tho second reading at once, and not dally ... - -with the matter. He disliked the num-. ber of members being left blank, and said . it showed a division in the Cabinet. • - The bill was read a. second time with- .. - out a division. . ; - ■ , • • On the motion for the committal of tiie ". , r bill on. the following day, Mr Seddon , .? moved to insert ".that day month," but .:~ was ruled out of order. •»• ■ The question was then put— Ayes, 39 ; noes, 29. The following is the division list:- ■ .... > - ■ ■ . Aye 5, .39., . ■■ Ballance ■ Macarthur ■' :r r. ! Barron. ' ..'■ Mackenzie, M. J. S. ' ' : -'• Bee'tham ' . '" M'Kcnzie, J. . ";,*■ Bruce . ■ Mitchelson ■•'--• Bryce . •• Montgomery': Buchanan . Moss ] Buckland, W. F. Newman Cadnian. Peacock Conolljr Pore Dargaville i Keid ■ •" Fergus Richardson, G. F. • ■ Fraser' '. Rolleston ' ■• ,- Fulton Russell . Grey . . ; ; Stout .... Hamlin . . ToAo Hirst ' Thompson, T. Hobbs Tolo ' ■ Johnston Whyte . Lake , Wilson .Larnach ■ • . Noes, 29. • - : - .Bovan , , Levestam- ■ ■ ■■ Brndshaigh - Brad- M'Millan : ,shaw ' , Menteath Brown • . O'Callaghan Buckland, J. C. Pearson :> • Cowan ' Pratt Dotlsori •• . Pyko Gore Reese , , • Guinness Rosa Hakuene Samuel -: , Hatch Soddon • - Hurathouso ' Sutter ' Ivcss' • ' ■ ';• Thomson, J, \V Joyce . Turnb'ull Lance • ■ . ' ■ Walker ■■■ Pairs. •■■ ' ' Ayes. ■ ' ■ Noes. Fisher Holmes •: Ormond .': Harper : Locke ■'■■'-■' ■ . Allwright,,'...Trimble.' . ' Duncan -'.." Moat '' ' , ']. . Taylor Atkinson • •• • Steward Wakefield Kerr" ', Smith. .• ' O'Conor' .. Hurst . Coster The bill was ordered to be committed on , the following day. 1 ; ' '- 'DISTRICT! I . RAILWAYS. The, District Railways Purchasing Act • Amendment Bill was committed, but its consideration was interrupted by the 5.30 adjournment.' .