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SATURDAY, JUNE 20.

The Council met at 3 o'clock. Present, all the members except Colonel Whitmore and Mr. Dolbel. Expla/natory. Mr. Cablyon said that in the Herald of the 15th June he was reported to have moved that a certain message which had been read to the Council should be thrown behind the fire. This was altogether inaccurate. He had certainly said that, coming as the message did from a perfect stranger to the house, it should be thrown behind the fire; but he had only given notice that he would, on the next sittingday, move that the message be not received. This motion lapsed through his absence on the following day. He had made this remark, believing that the message was sent in a spirit of pure irony, to congratulate the Council on a consummation so opposite to what was known to be its expressed wish. If telegraphic communication had been established between Wellington and this province there might have been some matter for congratulation. In speaking of a stranger he did not mean that the gentleman sending the message was unknown to the members. He (Mr. ' C.) knew that there was only one nobleman in the Province of the name of Russell. Since reading, the letter of that gentleman to the Herald, in which he stated that he had paid seven shillings and eightpence for tho telegram, he had no doubt that a compliment had really been intended after all. Major Lambebt said that, after what has fallen from the member for Te Aute, he also wished some little correction in the reporter's version of what he said on the same occasion. He certainly niade no motion whatever, and therefore could not have been in default of his seconder. Without repudiating the words as reported, he would take this opportunity of saying that in consequence of his remarks not having been more fully reported, the context was made to appear in a very different color from what ho ever intended. He felt bound to ignore the right of any stranger to open up, unofficially, communication with that Council, even upon however complimentary an occasion; and he certainly asked " who was Mr. Russell;" but without suspecting that he could have been understood in any other sense than meaning in what capacity that gentleman was cognizable by the Council. In the fair exercise of what he conceived to be his duty, he had never at any time had the slightest intention of wounding any person's feelings, or to make remarks in this Council on any person which he would not make to him personally. Tho plain fact was that, seeing the temper of the houso on tho occasion, as has been already explained by the member for Te Auto, ho thought by his remarks to get rid ot any un courteous debate on the matter. He would add that, having been on friendly terms with Mr. Russell for the last ten years, it was not likely that he should ask who he was with a view to be offensive. Ministerial. Mr. M'Lean said he intended tp ask for an adjournment till next sitting clay, and would explain his reasons. The resolution which the Council had passed on Thursday, the 11th, appointing a Finance committee, had, at first sight, appeared to him not to be conceived in any hostile :

spirit. His colleagues had, however, better comprehended the nature of the resolution, and had concluded that it was in the highest degree unfavorable to the Government. It had not been expected that any business would be done to-day, and several members were absent. He felt it would be only just for the Council to grant an adjournment to give the Government time to determine upon the course they Had best pursue. He would move for an adjournment till next sitting day. Mr. Buchanan would certainly oppose the adjournment, not only on present grounds, but as a precedent. At the time the motion was before the house the Superintendent frankly admitted that he could see no hostility to the Government in it, j but now he said that at that time he had not fully comprehended it, but had since found some kind of latent mischief in it, that he could only avert by means of an adjournment. Whatever mischief there might be concealed in the motion, there was certainly none intended. He could only repeat what he had said at the time he moved it, that whatever blame was connected with it attached to him only. He had not consulted any member on the subject — he had cast the resolution on the table, as men east their bread upon the waters, — certain that at somo future time it would bear fruit. He believed not only that this measure would be useful, but that it was necessary. That reductions were necessary in the Estimates all the members would agree ; but he had gathered information relative to the Estimates of Revenue which had passed under the eye of no member, (out of the Government), but himself. He would draw the attention of ihe Council to tho. fact that the Executive had had ample time to consider the motion without askiug for any further adjournment. Due notice was given of the motion, it was supplemented by a further motion referring the Wellington Debt papers and Loan Appropriation Amendment Act to the committee. If the wit of the Executive were wool-gathering at the time this motion was brought before the Council, they surely had ample -time for consideration since. Seeing that more than a week had elapsed since then, he thought it too late to ask for an adjournment, and could only look upon the request as a little political manoeuvre. The Government should take into consideration also tho time the country members' had already been detained in town. There was no such principle involved in this matter as there was in the case of a responsible ministry. What dignity the members of the Executive were clothed with he was quite unable to imagine. The senior member — the member for Porangahau — had repeatedly informed the Council that . he was not responsible for anything but the advice he gave the Superintendent. ]No doubt this was a very safe course ; but if that was the real position of that member, hehadnoright to array; himself with the importance of a responsible minister, who, on an adverse vote, must go out. It was quite time that the Council should look at the proper position of the Government, and not play at parliamentary discussion ; in the meantime, seeing that the Superintendent was the only person responsible to the Council, they should not ape the forms of legislatui-es of higher importance. Mr. Eebard said he had supported the Government at the time of tlie disastrous vote to which allusion had been made; but at the time he had no idea of the importance of the question. He must acknowledge, however, that when he considered that this vote was passed before the estimates were laid on the table, he found it must be equal to a vote of want of confidence. He considered at the time he voted that this matter could be much better considered in the whole house than in a committee. It was not in this Council as it was in England, where the accounts were so intricate that no one who did not possess the sources of information open to the ministry could hope to understand them; for here they were not beyond the comprehension of any members of the house. He felt, the difficulty of the question of adjournment before the business of the day was gone into, for upon the answers to some of the questions he had put upon the paper would depend whether or not he felt confidence in the Government. He had voted with them on Thursday because he had more confidence in them than in any committee. Mr. Obmond said that the present was not the time to consider our financial position, as it had not come regularly before the Council. His Honor had been so fully engaged during the week that he had been unable to meet the members of the Executive. Certain members had also been informed that the Government had no intention of proceeding with any business to-day ; and under these circumstances ho thought it was only right to adjourn till all the members could be present. This vote which had been passed was of exactly the same nature as the one of last year. To the Executive personally it mattered little ; but he should be sorry to hear his Honor spoken of as a man who had retained office after a vote equal to a direct want-of- confidence resolution had been passed by the Council. It would completely alter his position — ho would sink in the estimation of persons in whoso esteem he had hitherto stood very high. Mr. Carlyon said that he was not present when the vote in question was passed ; but had he been he would have given it his entire adherence. The present action of the Government only showed him more and more the importance of the steps resolved upon. He decidedly objected to the Government dictating to the Council the form of a vote of confidence. He believed that if the intention had been to pass a vote of want of confidence the member for the Country District would have done it in a direct manner. He was not the man to hesitate on such a subject, or attempt to carry an object by a sidewind. So far from being, as the Government had stated, the course pursued last session, this was totally different. Last session there was a distinct opposition party, and the estimates of the Government were thrown back to them ; this year they were merely referred to a finance committee. There was nothing unusual in appointing a finance committee before the estimates were laid on the table — in Wellington it had been done session after session. The position of the Government was similar to that of a man who fears he is in pecuniary difficulties, and refuses to allow bis books to bo examined, lest thoy should confirm his suspicions. This was simply a piece of petulancy on the part of the Government, and if thoy persisted in it, he would be obliged to withdraw the support he came proparcd to give. j Mr. Tanner said that he could not agree that the present action of the Council was similar to that of last year, There was then a decided party in opposition to tho Government, who were requested by tho Council to take back and re-consider their own estimates. He had voted with the j Government this time because he consi- j dered the whole question at issue to be whether the estimates should be considered in tlie whole Council or in a select committee ; and he believed the former course to be tho best. When this question was before the Council the member for Porangahau said he could not complain

I of the construction of the committefei and^§; the general opinion, was that it was: hbt s&; 'P attempt to coalesce ih 'opposing the &Q% P'ii, vernmellt. fto thought circumstanced did PP not warrant the exceedingly nice viewing; p Government had taken of the vote of the' ; Council, as he diet not consider that it at , p all interfered with Ijheir dignity. If they, ;; still persisted in considering it a want of confidence resolution, let! it be deferred i till next sitting day, that the Coiihcil y " might go on with the busihess nOtt bfefbre" : . it. There were the two hhpbrtaiit tjilds* tion of education and finance, and how that members had come prepared to give them their consideration it was a pity to defer them. - , . Mr. M'Lean obtained leave to alter his motion for adjournment to make it half* past seven. .. Mr. A'Deane said that as oneof the members who voted oh the resolution) he regretted the course the Government had deemed it their duty to adopt. He WaS sure that no vote of want of confidence was intended, nor was it the wish of the Council to embarrass the Government in any way. He would vote for the adjournment out of courtesy to the Government, and considered that, after the unavoidable waste of time that had taken place, the alteration in his Honor's motion was a great improvement. Major Lambert would draw the attention of the Council to the fact that there were only two members absent (Hear, hear) but he supposed it was considered that they would support the Government. He recognised no Government but the Superintendent, for the Executive had long ago thrown all the responsibility from their shoulders, and declared that they were merely his assistants, (Hear, hear), and they assisted him very ably, no doubt. At present they were in the position of a spoilt child who, not being able to have his own way, gets into a pet, and says " I won't I" (Hear, hear.) If it were necessary, he would assure the Council thatthere was no want of confidence intended. If there had been, the motion would at once have been challenged ; but nothing of this kind happened. JS" early every member spoke on the subject ; a drvission took place ; and it was not until after a week's consideration that the Superintendent found anything wrong in it. No doubt during that week his Honor had entertained his distinguished guest royally ; but the duties of the Council should havo received some of his attention as well as the Governor. He was anxious that this committee shonld sit for the purpose of seeing what the estimate of revenue really was, and on what grounds it was based, and if the Government really wished the business to be got through, they should not throw obstacles in the- way of members. He had no hesitationjn saying that when the 'estimates were merely laid before the Council, most of the members worked in the dark. He would vote against the adjournment. Mr. Eerard moved as an amendment that the Council adjourn to half-past seven, and that the notices of motion then take precedence of tho orders of the day. Mr. Buchanan asked what good end could be obtained by the adjournment. He would also be glad to hear what course the Government intended to take. After ' a whole week's consideration,, they asked for three days, and had now moderated their demands, first to twenty-four and then to three hours. He could see no valid reason for this delay, when the greatest legislative body in the world never required more than fonr-and-twenty hours to consider their position. Perhaps they wanted to beat uj> members ; but, as they had been reminded, there were only two absent, and tho Council had often proceeded with, more important business in the absence of a much greater number. The Government wished it to appear that their dignity was sorely invaded ; but in his opinion the dignity of the Council was being desperately trifled with — it seemed as if the Government fancied it was made to be kicked. Eor his part he strongly objected to such treatment ; he would give the adjournment his determined opposition, and go to a division on the subject. Mr. Cablyon could see no possible reason for the adjournment. Mr. Tanneb would support the amendment, as he did not think it unreasonable. He was, however, sorry that the Government had taken so serious a view of the matter. Major Lambebt would support the amendment, though he opposed the line the Government had taken, as he wished to show the Government — he meant tho Superintendent, (laughter) that he was not actuated by any motives of opposition. The amendment was then put and carried on a division, Messrs. Buchanan, Carlyon, and Weston voting against it. The Council adjourned to half-past 7. The Council resumed its sittings at i-past 7. Ministerial. Mr. M'Lean said that tho Government had asked for an adjournment with the view of having time for considering what course they would pursue under the circumstances which had arisen. They had since found that some members who voted for the select committee had not done so with any intention to express a want of confidence in the government. Other members, again, had said pretty plainly, that they had no confidence in the government. With the view of testing what the majority of the Council really felt, he would table a motion for Tuesday. In the meantime he would answer the questions on the notice paper, but would not go on with any government business. Petitions. Mr. Carlyon presented a petition from certain residents at Waipawa, setting forth that the publican's license fee there was £30, while it was only £20 at villages within a distance of four miles, and praying that a uniform fee should be exacted. — -Head and received. Mr. Kennedy presented a petition from 190 residents in JNapier, setting forth that the site already decided upon for the new Telegraph and Post office buildings was the most eligible and convenient that could be chosen ; and praying the Council to express approval of the site already selected. — Bead and received, and notice of motion given. Mr. Locke presented a petition from Mrs. Mary Wilson, setting forth that the frontage to her town section had completely been destroyed by the cutting in Cooteroad, and praying the Council to J;ake her case into consideration. — Bead and received. A long series of motions and questions was then gone into, but want of space presents our giving particulars in this issue. Resolutions on Education. My. Eebard said that he felt considerable embarassrnent in moving the resolutions standing in his name, because he had not had the practical experience of the working of any educational system which would give the self-confidence so necessary for anyone who would seek to win the confidence of others. However, he had felt bound to offer a decided opposition to the education bill of the Government, and the Council might fairly expect that he would indicate to them some other feasible scheme. He had first offered his notes to the Government, but the member of the Government who had moved tho second reading of the bill, in suggesting

vdythat^Jio bill be referred to a select coniipyymitiee, had indicated ho changes which : the -Government would propose to make Pixjinii. ; . He thought ; there was no guaranp :'{ss libit d bill , prepared by a select com* ii. iriitWe' irould be more likely to be acby the CWtfell than the one intro- ;; / ; dtic'ed by the Gbveriiifteflt. He wished .^ s: .\tfce;..'Goyerh'ment. had introduced resolu- ; jfcibhs i which, if accepted by the Ctattneil, P: jffiigHt-have acted as instruction:-; Ij a select ; P d&mimttee.- His own resolutions might be . ' titiriedessarily long, being in fact a skeleton yybill, bttt lie hfid wished to show the full '-*;%brkiiig of the scheme" he proposed.- The : .kedessity for a hew Educational Act of ,'r :courSe arose from the fact that the present Resources of the province would no longer " ■'" furnish funds for educational purposes, and >:" a rate had become necessary ; but he believed that the principal objection to the - present education system was that impro-y-^er^'arid ■' = incompetent;, persons were ap-. „,:-, pointed schoolmasters, and that the schooly masters were insufficiently paid. He didnot ] think, thiit there was any unwillingness to cdnturue the aid to denominational schools r aY' present receiving it, on the ground of P. \proselytismorotherwise; or any desire that . the "attempt to insure the efficiency of the y\ schools by Government inspection should : lie abandoned. The Government bill was \ objectionable because it adopted the practice, which" had been so great a cause of the between the General and ProP: \yiricial Governments, that one body was to - /have the spending of. the money, whilst a different body had the unpopularity of . raising it, that it proposed a uniform rate i throughput the province, |he amount raised in each district being spehfentir^ly in that district, :Ift therefore, the rate was made sufficiently high to raise funds for the . maintenance of schools in thinly populated districts, the inhabitants of Napier would be taxed to a much greater extent than ■•" their own necessities required, the money „: v being, moreover expended in maintaining a '-;*/• schopl which would be in opposition to schools already established in the place ; , ; if /the. amount of rate was calculated according to the wants of Napier, it would • Unot"prbvide funds sufficient for the maintenance of schools in outlying districts. riThe'bill wasalso objectionable because by „■.it the "Government abandoned all super- . vision over, the funds raised by them, and ' ;;., left.their control entirely to local boards. '[!' 3?lie provisions as. to the local boards sendii- irig in aocounts and reports on the state of ! their, school, to, the Superintendent would ■_-•-.: be utterly nugatory, as they would have : : Jno sufficient motive to attend to such pro- /. .visions. It might be that the present sysftem of appointing masters was objectiona,"yible; that .a Superintendent, feeling no '■special interest in the subject of education, 'T.bfih the wants of aparticular localitymigbt ■.-'', yield to influence and give a schoolmaster's post to somebody without sufficient .assurance of the fitness of the candidate ; biuvthere was equal likelihood with a local 'y board that there might be somebody belonging to the district in misfortune—per- , : v haps 'generally liked— perhaps having a "P. large family who must be provided for, or "owing money to many persons in the dis-'/.^tri6'fc:-\aii,effi>rfc is made, the poor devil is provided for, and the school is ruined. ;* Entire management by a central body necessitated general rules, not sufficiently elastic to suit all cases ; and an efficient master might not have the same influence I for good or take the same interest as if he had the support and sympathy of a good ;" local board. On the other hand, though Pv. schools entirely under local management "vrould here and there be brought to the highest state of efficiency where individuals, in the locality took a keen interest -in them, they would, under ordinary circumstances, be subject to all the petty ~ jobbery which used to disgrace parishes and the smaller foundation schools of England ; and there was always the likelihood that managers would only compare their , school with itself, and think that what had hitherto been was good enough for them, .arid would make no improvements. Tho true course seemed to be that generally ; adopted in like cases in the present day — ' to give extensive powers of local manage'p merit,. :but to have a central body to give \ '.. v'its advice to the local bodies, to control and keep them to their duties ; to gather information respecting improvements in '--(•education in other places, and to urge their adoption upon the local managers. ;' .y'A.' body having the special duty assigned to it to appoint, schoolmasters, or to grant Certificates of efficiency, would act with a much greater feeling of responsibility than any person with whom this only formed ; one amidst, a great variety of duties. He . had had no time, before preparing his resolutions, to talk the matter over with .other members of the Council, or with '"- 1 those who might be regarded as leading ; on the subject by the different iy religious denominations ; but had looked T -for aid; to the Acts of. other provinces. It V had been said that the Government Bill 'was founded on. the Nelson system. He -r- knew that that system had been adopted Hyonthe recommendation of a commission --which sat some twelve years ago, and gave the matter most careful consideration. It. had stood the test of experience, though, amendments had been from time to time introduced. The Government Bill differed, most materially from the Nelson system, 'He had had the pleasure of a conversation -•,■ with a gentleman of recognized ability, who had formerly resided in Nelson, and 'held important provincial offices there. "That gentleman, on being told that tho : Government had introduced a bill professedly founded on the Nelson system, ; but without the central board, remarked, pi" Why the central board is a most im- ' 'pbi'tant part of the system — is a body, full of life ; Dr. Greenwood takes the greatest possible interest in the subject, and he is a „.ih ost in himself. Now that indicated just : ,/, ; what was wanted here — that if there was any man ;of ability like Dr. Greenwood, keenly interestedin education, there should , be means of utilizing his labours for the general good, and that they should not ■--, merely be devoted to the improvement of some particular . school in his imriiediate : neighbourhood. It might be thought that he (Mr. Eerard) would have been satisfied y to take from the Nelson Act the missing parts of their system, but he remembered that another province, Canterbury, had also, more recently, had. a commission on the subject, composed of very able- men, under the chairmanship of Mr. Tancred, y.who was known throughout the colony both for his great acquirements and for the interest he took in questions of this ■character ; another member of the com- , mission was Mr. Rolleston, who had just been elected Superintendent by the unaniV.mbus voice of the people of Canterbury ; ; , that, commission had not only the advantage of the experience acquired in the pro,.vmce of Nelson, but had carefully exthe various systems in- force in V the other provinces of New Zealand, . and-in the Australian colonies ; and upon i -'p the. System adopted in Canterbury, upon ji pifeheir^recommendation rather than upon had based his resolu'ytions.'>lt had been a satisfaction to him y ;to ; find that in one point in which he pro- ; Vy pbsed to differ from the Canterbury scheme, ;;^.>yii.,lbyi^aritmg aid, as at present, by way 'Ppffi capitation money, he was in accord with. Native Schools Act," for he >t^^ub^'d'^itot^hatypiie' of the Canterbury t^^T^imor^evs.iMrii Rolleston, had, as t^|l»l^.^rii^^cre^a^yfprv native ; affairs, a the preparation of that Aot.

The. Canterbury systenu.' diff( wed greatlj from the Nelson system, in 1 lie constitu tion of the central boas-si . In .Nelson, thi; board was composed of I epre; lentatives o the local committees r ,; in Ci intorbury, i consisted of a few persi ms i tominated bj and removable by the ; Sup erintendent With the advice of his ex ecuti re —responsi ble therefore to the exec utive, and, througl them, to the Council, fo: : their- proceedings He thought tho Cante: rbury system pre' ferable to the Nelson ; a small- board, sc appointed, would be 0( imposed of persons taking special interest in the subject, and work together with i aore consistency oi : purpose, and for move definite ends, aud ■ be- more careful of the > general good of the province, and more Z ealous in collecting and diffusing informal ion, than a larger and cbnstantly changing board. Under the Nelson system, it mi ght happen that the best and most reli? ible member of the board might not be re-elected if he had done anything to offi md the committee of his own locality, as by failing to obtain for them an extra grant or the like. He then proceeded t o comment on the resolutions seriatim. The uniform rate on every householder, recommended by the second resolution, " was not the best but was the simplest anc I most easily collected; he recommended it as a temporary measure, as it would \ ie very expensive to make a valuation o f all the property in the province for ass« sssment; but such valuation would soon 1 lave to be made either by the General Go* vei aiment or the Provincial Council. Tl te:plan would have in it a sort of rough ju sthje, for, though the rich would pay no m ore than the poor, they would probal ily make no use of the schools for their < own, children. He observed that an edu catvonal rate was about to be made upon ' property at Canterbury, upon a valuation :made for municipal and road purpose? j. Ile thought that school fees should b,e m ade^ as high as an ordinary laborer wail i a family could afford to pay, as it v .'/as primarily the duty of parents to edu- jastte their children, and people valued more ;• Ibjgiily that which they had to pay for, i Bin sorae places the jealousy of religious „* cdeaonoinations had excluded ministers < ,jf 'religion from the central board. H'.'e thought such a rule would increase th ':e difficulty of finding competent persons. |ETiider his plan educational districts woul hd have to be formed round all the presen j.fc common schools ; but when a new distri jet w as to be formed, or a subdivision oii aa. old district made, it would depend vi ion^he wishes of the inhabitants. He thougl it tj ie subjects which they should insist upon being taught in all schools should be fej p; to the list in his resolution he should li3k> c to see added drawing, as giving an acDc; litional power of expression, so that, as My\ Ruskin had said, the time would come ; when it would be expected that everyb(. idy should be as able to oxpress his ide as with the pencil as with tho pen. He she >uld like choral singing added, and military • drill if possible. The subject on which, al jove all others, a State ought to see that chil dren were properly instructed, was ethics, their duties to their fellow men and their God, thereby rendering them goodcitize: as. Butthese, in Christian lands, were mad c to rest for their authority so entirely v pon an historical basis, and with the facts of that history theological doctrines w< ire so interwoven with dogmas upon whi ch rival sects differed, that he feared tb .ere was no possibility of so arranging instr uction upon this point that they could fa irly make it compulsory upon all, and th.€iy must therefore leave the children up on this point to the instruction of their and the ministers of religion. He thoufiht there would be more consistency in the action of a local board if onehalf only - of its members were changed annually. < He should ask the leave of the Council to withdraw the resolution 25, leaving it to the local managers to determine tb at religious instruction should bo given;. on further consideration, he felt the plai a would be mostmischievous; whero religions denominations were nearly balanced , thero would be a constant struggle. what i -eligious doctrines should be taught, and tl ley might try to force an efficient mast* ;r to teach doctrines which he did not 7nimself agree with. Resolution 29 was only inserted under the idea that the zeal -of members of some religious denomination might secure a school to a district soonor than they would otherwise have it. In. some parts of the country ho thought , persons would be willing to give the use of bui] dings in which a schoolmaster might teac h two or three days in a week, though thej' could not entirely support a master. The system of central supervision, with J man agement by local, boards, had been ado;pted in most provinces- Some peoplo tho 1 ught the province not sufficiently advan .ced for such a. system, but they would be unwilling to say that they wore not advanced enough for a system which had beon found to work at Nelson, not merely in the days of gold-digging, but in the sleepy times of twelve years ago. On the motion of Mr. Tanner, the debate was adjourned till next sitting day (this day.) The Council then adjourned. BUSINESS EOR THIS DAY. i Mr. Eebaed to ask — In what form they propose to bring the General Government expenditure, ,provincia!ly i charged, before the Council for its consude- ; ration. Mr. M'Lean to move — That, after recent expressions of opinion, the Government consider that, before proceeding further with the conduct of Government business, it is necessary to ascertain whether they have the confidence o.v not of a majority of the Council; and, with this view, move that the Council hereby expresses its confidence in tho Government. Mr. M'Lean to move — That Messrs. Ferard, Tanner, and Parsons, be added to the Finance Committee. Mr. Kennedy to move — That tbis Council approves of the action taken by the Superintendent in the selection of tho site proposed by him for a telegraph office, confirmed, as it has been, by the agents of the General Government. Mr. Buchanan to move — For leave to introduce a Bill to repeal the Executive Ordinances. Mr. Eerard to move in committee on the Loan Revenue Appropriation Bill — • That His I-louor the Superintendent be requested to recommend tbis Council to appropriate £1000. part of tlie £00,000 loan, lo the building of a wing to the gaol, in which lunatics may he detained and properly treated apart from prisoners. _ Adjourned debate on Mr. Ferard's motion on Education. Mr. Ormond to move — The second reading of " Loan Appropriation Act Amendment Act." The Council to go into committee of supply. Mr. Rhodes to move — The second reading of lho " Education Act."

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Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume 12, Issue 954, 23 June 1868, Page 2

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SATURDAY, JUNE 20. Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume 12, Issue 954, 23 June 1868, Page 2

SATURDAY, JUNE 20. Hawke's Bay Herald, Volume 12, Issue 954, 23 June 1868, Page 2

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