NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMANT BRITISH AND GHOORK TROOPS. (Mr. J. Crncroft Wnaon's speech continued.)

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NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMANT BRITISH AND GHOORK TROOPS. (Mr. J. Crncroft Wnaon's speech continued.)

Sir, a flsvv dajs afier thnt sptech was rcmde, under the banner of that king of pevo, trooper Kmi'h, Oahill, and others, were naurdeied, and some of them were oaten. Now, Titokowaru beiug a fugitive, I heaid the other day in this House -and T confess I heaid it with horror — a proposal to treat the Tangahoe and Pukakohe hnpns with great leniency. I n3f*'se kniwn, when t heard. Eiicli n. -leiitiment uttered., that l. ally those harms had deceived Mr. Parris — t/u-y had not been compelled to go to those gieat meetings at winch the subsequent campaign of Tifctkowaiu was sanctioned, and that they had voluntaiily joined him. So much for the West Coa. t. On the East Coast the same pe> mcious influtnee hag !»een at work. The aggressive attack on f'Apipr i>y the Ngatihonemu tube, was not that sanctioned by I'awbiao ? That it was t>o, I maintain, is not (/pen to doubt, Let us look at the events of fcht pvt two months. "What letters have been wi.tUn fiom tho Kin™ p.iriy lo the friendly natives in the laiijio countij illative to Te Koot 1 , saying; Unt if Te TCooti vta,> worsted, and not allowed to <'io-<j tin (nigh into the JSgatimauiapoto country, the King paily would come and annihilate those Iriendlies. I hive heard it stated that letters to that effect, purportirg to be «-i;»ned by the King, are not the Kimo'^ uviiuit; ; but 1 have no doubt whatever that those lettusetnunatecl from thu King'rf advisers. J a It the Hon«e, by my resolutions, to affiim that it is absolutely nccessaiy to cnuh this King movement to abandon the greater paib of the Northern Island Task the House to affirm that the former i<s the safei', the moro honourable, and will eventually piove the ol.eap r, coursj. Concession, may yrocuiefor the colony temporaiy quiet; but I will venture to aiythat no concession to a savage race hag, ever since the worll wag ma^le, brought about pinu.inonfc peac^. 'i ho only puiallel which, as I think, iii-toiy alfoidd ua to this Kins; movement, :uo the ilfssimic propheeisa which, 200 years before our ei a, kej t the Jewish race in a seething state, 'i hose prophecies ended hi Lho fall of Jerusalem : this movement will, 1 am eciUiu, end in thti uestine'iou of tlvi Maori i ace. 1 will not troub'e the House with any rdnaik- uj on the fouith lesol-lUion-i. h mu^i, I think, ho apparent a!! of us tha'. " c\r Xl'.duid n not c.\i>.ible, U'lnuKu, of canyin i 1 1 1 1 "> i (1' e.t fche '" form 1 r' 1 course, ai staled in my ivdlmlkiii i Withugud to the ti'th ie->o'nti"n, 1 Ln >s i'j will ho Uig'd as an answer th it, judging fiMin the K-noi of tln> late tit spatclus of the ;• ecr«tary ofHi'li foi the (Jul'hiks it is pcifcctly usuLb 1 ) to fctud (V.'Mim-^ion is home, for that no advance wh it" 111 1 r will he i_>ivcm us fiom horn 1 . I am not nb mt to ucFind wh.it I c nsid it the impiv>| er tone or tie dc/pi/chis, ior you? paot, (if successive yeci.fc\n sof State for the Colonies, Ido not b.lie>c tint finythui » dm excuse the tune of those d s,""!;! 1 !."". But [am b nmd to lemembir, at the s.un ' tune, that N«w Zealand has hiea a v r ry lioul>L>ome child for some jeaispast; and, thciefoie, i think that, if we cannot foit;< r, wo may forgive, «. \[)k ? ■dons which hive been used tow.uds us in tho-^ 1 d< np ilohc". I h.iv>> übe ' thephra«e, " send <Joiuur,-,ioneis home." Up t>> the pieaent time I have ,>'\,}y: le^uded the woids ' Horn"," " Jvif,'Jcvtk',' 1 n nl ''Moth' rCJouutiy," .is being synonymous ; Jin l , ' 'ulo ] continue to do tli\i, I will not believe th >L '1' t.<--i>'at'C3 will bo deniod to u . .So loiil* ab 1 cr>ll '"upland ' Hrmo 1 ' L will not tlu.ik so ill ot her J\l >\ r ,L_ 's iMmistoi 1'!1 '! as t> biliove tha I . tlio\ cm desert us itito^C'l-h r. If future c;ei ts f>ucd such a convicti'm >s that t'pon me, [ will not ev^n then believe thai the "tea 1 , bcait<f the ptoplo of England will i.lio\vist> be aliO-'ethu 1 dc uii^d. The people of England h'vvu btto'O now fore d j leluoiaut Ministry to yo to way, and tluit, too, in very modern times, "vi i .. our case, besides the giea'< hexrt of the people of lMi"]'iid, ] know tint soni" hi;> pockuttt in I'lngLuid inivn been lightenel to the amount of aomo fifu' r>n million iof money ; acd I lliiuk fiat ihogiinfc }i i:', t> id tho !nt; j>oikebs uill combine in pleading our \. , c. U i, u tcly impo^.ble thatth'jmcu ivho h>'d out ('-, 'viituic. Co tl.u unount of st veil inilii"ii-», and that i • • » w'«y h,ve advanced mon^y tj the amount o' u I !, m lli ins to be employed la thi3 oounlii — me tio (iv, i.ei'-. of \v< ich kn > v iiolhii'g (.f tluso hi md i i. we tint they have r-dv.mcel mo sey to be my ltd hciu— sh'uld Rii qni-'ly au'l "^.i us duve'j i'lo h a I wilt nol b' lieve su..h a thn.^ to be )vi j 'do. L Inve never *<\ -ueli a tliidj. yei ; and \\' iin H. I t.it the .i si.tw.o^ vhi- h is moposed to I > '■ d fi iin th t, r^o ulions is that which is do 'd'diti (Juowdirs d-^spatch of 2G h May, lbb'!, 1 i.iii'i' t bihu\o thu !»y giving «.lfe',t to thebo io>oulk>ii , we should b^ usL.i'g fir aiij thing very n.i'ci 'in bk>. Wu h vc>, an, ben petulant; wo Ju 1 , i chaiis, bee", v' b j'utely t'rottcl ; l>ut when we iiud U au \v ■ h<.\e ruvde .i mntuke, and spy to the Ijiirydi rinvtMimunt, " Ue n><w thanl.fully nccepb tint > h cli you «ffjiod i.. 1861" cxn it be believed i\"\, \i<> \\!'>>. ii Lin- wo's\ hive bjyn guilty of bub i\ Miy ,i a'l ■ If me, \<,\,l 1 c p ms'-.-d to buuh an txient .vi \\> le vho'ly doso'T-jd at hi.th a caaiu in our Ji'f.ii - , L ! .e [>te-.Jiit? 1 i-pe^fcOnt ! for ono will tioi i iu""j il. To th" ii tli i>s lit 1 "! iii theio me ap}i h >.| ii,' sub-se I o . '»,,,« u f th ",i l 'el mU tin- ])'. ii ii- „i -, (i , tleo I ct i\ ■> (I Iv, \.\\ i!i'^ >i" d- vi le.ivji,,.^ i 1... co t t lint foi which V d- I . With i j'.Msi to J'e pirn, 1, id couise, cm oinyad.anieiny o, 1 . n 0.-iii oi i ; lu 1 . J hope ib uiy i ire, tint some nic/.ii i -.i.f Una.S ou ewili a^uev.il'i me thiLibis the 0 ily pi 'ii of {insuring Lisb.i.g peico m New Zealand. We n,ive sp-nt a, gre^t de.'.l of money aatlessly. I will not U(ij;e ii| ou the hon'so that 1, in the yeaiISGI, 'coommonded tho adool ion of another course; bud I miysayT am sahshed that had that course bo n adi'j'tsd ir.oiicy would not ln^o 'icon w isted as it ho . Le<-n wasted. Of all the batUes that havo tidiin plac • in New Zealand, I hardly know of one to wluth I could apply the cenn "decisive." la faut, I b'lieve that a decisive battle is not to be found throughout the histoiy of thU colony. Pursuit of tho enemy has been very -eldom attempted ; but in other lmds we all knov/ thaf, by means of cavaby, battles winch hive nob bei n decisive, so far as regirda tho result of the fighting on the fields on which tho^c battles have b« »uu, have, by ineam o( the puisiut of cavalry nfti-r retieit has begun, been ni.'do '0 decisive that the em my has been crippled to such an txi°nt ;is to lie unable to ico.canise aiain foi >Ks. I never saw ov he^rd of anything of that kind m New Zealand ; and it is to lemedy that defect that I pioposo to introduce the Gh-.ork'i element. I trust th3t no ono will charge me with undervaluing tha Biitu-h soldier. I know his brav«ry, hi-» endiu">nce, bis mt'n-.ity of redi^tance, his power of iguoiin 1 * defint so long as life lasts, to ba I oyoud ad prase. Bob Few Zoiltnd want", ia her v/ood ) and SA'.iinpa, som 1 substituic foi eavalty — some e'ement which will bi a ! do to m dee a victory decisive I lind this tl"montin th > Ghocrlia, Iv puifitut (if the Maori, I will vcntuic to n.iy tli it one (-ih'ioik>i wou'd be equal to thtte Europcaup. He is nmijh fas^oi in the bn"-h ; he is uurivalli-d iv iisce-iditig IhIIh; and if Glnorkas f-nu \i\it of our '.Utv-kuig forca, I ventmo to say that an mdeoisive VKtoiy will be ahmab an nnpo-.sibilityt With the flight Gommis^ai'iat which theGhoorka requires, ho can pursuo the Maori, for live or six days, into any bush Avhatever, and thai wirhoufc suffeung any ext'.ioidinary fatigue, or undtraoing any unusual privation. It may be asked, if our native allies are likely to become too much for us to deal with, how will it, bo with these Nepaulese? Such an ol'j<-ct<on can ou's be raised by those who do nob know tho Gbooika 0 . They are one of the most doodo races to tin so placed in authoiity over them that lover met with. Of cou^e they have certain prejudice^ but thoso prejudices fire very few. I know of one, and ono only— tho Ghoorka deoliuta to oat bcof ; but 1 think he oould be fed very well heie, despite that jjifejudiee. Beef is the most expensive kind of animal food, nnd if we had Ghooi kas here I do not see why they should be asked to cab it. If asked, they would certainly resent it. But the Ghoorkft is ns gentle and as doci!e to those in command over him as he is fi-tce when his blood ia up; and horiourab'o members nny, 1 am sure, dismiss from their mine's any idea that Hmv would be anything for us to ffai from t e presmoe of a Ghoorka foice in Now ZjAl'ml. J shall be told, possibly, by some hon. meinbors from Auckland, that a letter ha 1 * recently pppeared in an Auckland piper, purporting to emanate fiom M&joi-General Troup, and to be addressed to his eon in Auckland. In that letter tho writer speaks* of the difficulty of governing the Ghoorka.', and says that the. Sikh would be much better for our purpose. If I were to go into the history of the Ghoorkas as aervanta of the British, I could prove that the letter of Major-General Tro>ip ia not worth much couaideration. I think afe first there were only two regiments of Ghoorkas, and they were enlisted na what are oalled Sebuadee corp3, that is to any, they had civil dutias to perform— to guard tha treasury aud the gaol, to escort treasure, and bo on. Their pay wa« only four-aevenths of the pay of the line, and it was at that time, perhepa, that Major-GeuerftlTroup knewtberm He speaks of their being very few iv number, and he aays that they live m the province uf Nepaul. I presume he would not suppose that a man who has bad 80 umoh to do with the Himalayas as I have had, would ever mix up the inhabitants of other provinces wheu speaking or writing of the Q-hoorkas. If Major-General Troup were here, lam ■ure that he would not say that I did not know the :

T'liu'i.ti-rt- of Mi ft pri.vtnco «t Ki'unou orof uuvhwpl fvutn ih'Mo ot th<j tariitiu'y <•£ Nos &«'• Xdo not u<k Use Hottm 1 tn sond for any of the hill tribfcH ~moun» tninoera— but I ask tho HoUs^ to let tno Irv to ttefc 'ihoorktm Tn IS4B, a Ghooika rsgiraont went into L ! iO fiist Siuii campaign Upon the wretched pay which I have mentioned —pay so wretched that a late traveller, C. W. Dilke, in his work entitled "The Greater Britain," says that when he remarked to the commanding officer, "Your men are very small, sir," he received the answer, "Yes, but their pay is much smaller." The GhoorkasJ vere receiving the enormous Bum of Ba. a month, and fiudmg themselvep, when they went into that great campaign ; and history tells us how magnificently they behaved at the battle o£ Sobraon. In the whole of my career I have known two instances of insubordination on the pat t of the Ghoorkas, and I will tell the House what they wpre, At the battle of So'oraon, Captain Fisher, their captain, was killed. Tho Sikhs fought with a liva- at their backs, in order, I suppose, to let the men know that, if defeated, they would have little chance of escape. But they were defeated ; and when they retreated, the bridge bnkedown, and thousands of them fell iuto the liver. Hie Ghoorkas were in pursuit — were taking their revenge out of the Sikhs, in fact, for the death of their ciptain ; aud I believe it is true that, when the recall was sounded, two companies of those extravagantly-paid Ghoorkas d.d say, tapping their pouolie--, " We have a few rounds of ammunition left yet, aud we are not going back to camp until we have disposed of eveiy Sikb we can find." That is one case of insubordination. The other — and the only oUier of which I know — ooourred in the beginning <-f the Indian mutiny, in 1857. The Ghoorka legiment stationed in the cantonment of Subbathoo, near Simla, consisted of ten conij anie*, and it had been the cußtotn to allow them to le^ve one company in bairackß, to look after the women and children. The officer then in cotnimnd at Simla — I do not know whether he ia alive now- wa i i ignorant enough to order that the whole ten companies should take the field. There was a murmur at that order, and there was a c'aim that their old c.isbom, orpiivil"ge, should not be departed horn. To that extent the regiment was guilty of iusuboidm-ition. Bub immediately ifc was consented that <»»e company — which I believe they weiv in the habit of huleotiug themselves— should lemam iujurracka, the ofclicr nine mxrehed readily. Aud no.\ nobly (Md these men, in 1857, face the heat of the plains of India— a clima'e which ia just a-i d tiimoutal to th"in r is it. is t<> Europeans ; how nobly they faced tlut danger. How they fought at Delhi for four months. Maj n* lie-id's legimont of Ghooika*, and the I'll, battihon of 60th Bifles, wore the only re^i.iunts out of the whole force engird in that siege agiiiut winch no one ever uttei oil a word as having misbehaved, not even a small detachment of them ; and yet I may be told that these aic not men lit to bo tiu-ted in Mcv Zetland. M^jot-Goneial Troup tells us tint Sikhs are better for our purpose. 1 thiuk I know as much of them aa M.ijor-Geueral Troup. I know I had a relative an oflicer who commanded one of their regiments when they weie under the Liboie dynasty; I know they murdeied their officers, and they wounded my relative, and tied him to a " charpay," a native beilst ad, and left him to die in the burning sun. Tluao are not the mn 1 wish to biiiig here. Lsb me tell those \\h > say that the Ghooikat aie uot equal to tho bi'ih", that when Lord Uatdiuge, alter the battle of So'>r.uui— -and there Jiemeinbeis wi l hm the piccmcts of thL Llou-e wlio can vouch for the fact — was urgoil to march at ouca to Lahore, hu answer was, "I have no Europeans and no more Ghoorkas." Sir, he would not have said that if he did not knoTV their value in Un throe bafctks of Moodkee, Feiozeshah, aud Sobiuon, in which they had already fouyht. I think. I can give an authority almost as gioat as that of Major-Gi neial Troup. bir, here is a letter from Sir Charles Napier to Lord Dalhouaie, (hied sth January, 1850, seven yeais before the mutiny, when alluding to their very small pay, and how much lie wiihed it to be raised. He wiites : — " And nnv I am sure that this most disagreeable nffair will opou the eyes of the diiectors, and satisfy th m that lam right in wishing fo. Ghoorki bat ta'ione. I w..uld, it J o .uld, have 25,000 of them, I which, added to our own Europeans, would form an I army of 50 000 men, and well huidled would neutral- ' l^e ft-jy ombinat on amongst the >Sypoy«. Ido mo^ j seiiomly recommend this subject to jour considi r.»tion, aud whether ib otioht not to be seriously P'cgscd up<m the considetation of the oouit. I believe yoiu lordship's opirujn coiuoides with mine a, lo thcQ-hooiku battalions. If so, I wi-.li tint you would older their higher pay to he Usued [rum the lbt of January ; it will at once secuie the fidelity of thiiso brave tioops, and ifc wdl bring otheis rapidly if we should determine to inciease thiir strength, There are small points whioh in times of danger govern great events. You see I write fiankly all [ thiuk." Sir William Napier, also in his "Life of Sir Chalks Napier," says ; — "Thee Ghoorkas lie described as being cf low stature, but with huge limbs, answeting very exactly tin- d scr.pfclon ot Attila'a Hnn^, ami nob improbably ;=. fogn Ue race. Tlvre were sever.il battalions in tlu Comp n>', •-e-vicp, but on pvyso scanty as scarcely to tsi.fii c tor sustet anc**, a'»d it wan an object wi'h Sn 1 G. Nai>icr to phco them on the same footing as tho fc>i>|.oy , nob only because of their fine qualifications of body and spirit, bub their freedom fiom hampering religious scruples and customs. Ho hoped thus to render the pnjudiuts and customs of the Sepoya nugatory for mischief, and furthermore to check and neutralise the power of Nepaul as a State, by the employment <-f its own people ; for the government of that country was not of a nature to retain any hold on the affections of soldiers well paid and cheiished by another pawtr. But their gieatest value m his eyes was the furnishing a sure check on Sepoy mutiny ; for he had discovered that the insubordinate spirit of the Sepoys was principally amongst tho Brahmins, and senretly nourished by their loliaioug men with a view to control the Government." Now, sir, I think, if any one wishes to malign the Ghooikas, 1 at any rate have pub them io a proper position before the House, The last story I h.ive to tell of these mea was related to me by Major Mathteon, about eighteen months ago ; he was in the 2nd Benunl European Regiment, now the 104 f .h of her Majesty's, They were in a fort in a countiy inhabited by the hill tribes, somewhere near Pesh awur. Two Affghans came out aud challenged the British forces to a duel. Of course, such things are nob tolerated in British aimies ; bub a Ghoorka who was there in on? of the regiments, unperceived, a ipped out of the fort, crept along till he gob v,> to thosd fellows, and killed one of them. Major Mathison told mo the &tory himself. He had witnessed the oo.U'i nio, He &aw the seoond Aff^han atiike ab the Ghiorka with Ins sword, the next moment he <saw the Afrghan's hair in the hand of the Ghoorka, and the next moment he saw hi& head off „nd with the Ghooika's foot on it. Now, sir, thdse .".10 the men tint I shall b^ told cannot cope with the Maori. I tiust tho House will not believe it. I hope the House is satisfied that the Ghoorkaa 6ie fib to cope with the Maoris, and that they are not ino'ined to mutiny, At any rate, with regard to mutiny, I can safely say that, if I have the honour io be with them, I will go security for them, and pledge myself that no fear need exist on this head until the day on which I myself mutiny. I shall be told by some, who know very little about their constitution, that the climata in New Zealand will not suit them. In the year 185* I brought three mmntainoois—nob Ghoorkaa — from the provinoa of Kumaon, with me, who lived with me until their time expired. One of them remained in New Zealand for seven years, and is now living in Almoral, the capital of Kumaon, having earned in thisooutitry a competency one of them is at Kaiapoi, and the other is at the diggings. After these men had served their time with me, they used to employ themselves asi egg merchants ; they used to go about the plains of Chriatohurch buying up egga, which they pub into baskets, and carried them on their heads by the bri'ile path fxom the plains to Port Lyttelton, where they sold them and made a ha'.dsome living thereby. Thete are members in this Mouse who have seen them going up and down those hills ; and I venture to say uo European would carry such a load, oven if paid £1 a day for ifc. These men did it, and thought nothing of it. I mention this fact merely to show their power of enduring fatigue, and that this olimate agrees with them, I may be asked why I requite so many men. If these three regiments are composed of 1,000 aaen each, thera will be 3,000 men, and I daresay people will ask r If these are suoh great men, why require 3,000 for the purpose ? Well, sir, I thiuk I oan answer that objeotion, I think I may safely Ray that if I was at the head of 800 Maoris t would keep the North Island in hot water, and plunder every place through* out the island for three years. I would unhesitatingly say that it would take 3,000 men to arrest those 300 Mauri*. 1 think New Zaaland U very much in that kind of position now, and I want to see i short; work made of this state of things. Wo fare not only ruining the Northern Island. We have impoverished the Southern Island, and reduced tbe value of property there to almost the minimum. It is high time thin work should he done effectually and speedily, and that ia the reason I *ak for 3,000 men. Another reason is thai; a road must be xwide from Patea to Upper Wftikato, and a large

number of tnen will li» iccrimd for tbit \mv[) > vv < n . The moti 1 obi-. £*»r wili mijUi that road muo'n chuiptr thin any peisom in ,\ev Z a'and oidd incite it Without a ro»d it wot. d ho tho sAit.e • s Gi neri! Chute's canii>iu.ii ir iaitn»U, nniee'l nngatoiy berau-e p O(>< r {iicuhioi wgm> not subi- q-ientiy taken ; and if it was deemed ned-ssnry for tlio maintenance of peace, how ea»v would it be to scud for the wivts and children of 500 of the G-hoorka* aud to locate them on the points of the road. I have now given my reasons for askinu for so many mpn. There is auother matter which I wishtobring before the House, Some men are iti th° HVbifc of thinking that all regimenta are alike, and that man, in fact, is nothing more than a steam engine : if fed by so many bushels of coke there will be so many revolutions of the wheel or \t heels. This is not the case. I once saw a regiment landed in this country against its will, and I never saw a more melancholy spectacle in my life. Such a regiment did more harm to this country than good. They do not enter heat t and soul i-ito what must bo a trying campaign, and endure fatigue and exposure to the vicissitudes of climate, when there is very little honour to bo gained. I say this with reference to the troops from home which tho hon. member at the head of the present Government told 113 yesterday he was going to ask for. I say, do not get troops that will not come heie freely and willingly as volunteers. I am afraid, sometimes, the old story will be repeated a^ain. Sir, there are regiments of the line that would work well with the Ghoorkae in such a way that six months would certainly see the end of the fighting, but net the end of the roadmakin!?. The fighting could be put a stop to in six months. I warn this House that regiments of the line are very different — that some have been prejudiced against us by evil things said of us, and by disgraceful stories circulated by officers themselves, and which have been intolerable to bear. The men of the Hue who calumniated us in the newspapers at home are not the aoldiera to fight for us. Sir, the second and third sections refer to the mode of repayment, namely, 4 pr cent, interest, and 1 per ceut. sinking fund, spread over a period of 45 years. lam not wedded to this mode of piymenfc, if auy other form can be discoveieil more agreeable to the Legislature, and moie pleasing to the Government ut homo. lam perfectly willing to accept auy amendmenc on these heads. Bub, sir, I have put down t,he sums in accordance with the despatch of: Mr. Ca.dAoll, fluted May 26, 186-4, at-d 1 am inclined to believe that following the suggestions made by the Secretary of State is not au unwise course ; but at the same time I am in the hands of the llouso with rc^atd to that subject. lam afraid I have takeu up a great deal of the time of tlio [fouse, but the truth is that this is a very nnmuntous subject at the present moment. I do think lb is the turning point in the affairs of New Zeahnd which wo Inve to decile jusfc now, and if I take up a little rnoie tune than I am in tho habit of doin^, I trust honourable members will forgive me. 1 wish to say a word or two more on the buiijfct. lam voiy well aware that I lay myself open to a chaige of inconsistency in bringing forward these resolutions : it may be said, You are a sunpoiter of Mr. Weld, who proposed that 1,-500 Armed Constabulary should Le kept up. Inm uot going to enter upon the events which drove Mr. Weld ftom oflioe, nor tho events tint followed ; all I cau say ia thifl, that with the consent of the House his self-leho-nee policy has been kiuckod on the head, Tdo not think I have chaii^d my mind much ', corUmly not so much as tho 'lous" hat changed its miud. I pr'. test agunsi being taunted with inconsisfcenc3'', because, the House having clia ij»ed its views, I am compelled totu^i&t to the JJousc some other Xieana which are at variance with the self-reliance policy. Sir, there is no gieafc innovator than time itself, and onsisteucy puie and simple means nothing more nor loss than hta, nation. Jf consistency pine and simple is the highest political virtue, then indeed 1-. China bho moat pjhtija'ly wrruous of all nations, Ib is eonbistency pure and simple winch will not allow thoso who practise it t) accommodate themselves to the innovations of time itself, and which caus<=s the barbarian, to disappear when brought into close contact vith civilisation. It w>\s consistency pure and simple that murdered tho Author of oar religion The^e are muiy things which Q\n bo said agamst consistency puie and Mmple. I hope I shall never deceit any goo I principlo — moral piiuoiple especially ; Kit con-us'eney at times becomes a ciime. Whio 011 this su -jeefc T mvy innate an anecdote which I reme Tiber r—Wurren Hastings, Vilun a very old man, was once summoned to be examined by a committee of the Ilouso of Comino is. He wai cio«s examined by a y«>un^ member of Parliament, who asked him, if his opinion on the subject wps a* Lo d<;p>scd, how ib erne to pass that on a certain occibion lie had nob acted iv accordance with the opiuiun expressed. The old man replied, " Young gentleman, I came here to give evidence, and not to leoondle my own inconsistencies 1 ." In the same way, sir, there is nothing in my reso'utioiia relative to inconsistency, and I am not here to account for or de r end my own inccsisteuciei. I am quite ready to boar any blamo that may be thrown upon m<> on th>> scoie cf lucousistenoy. I c iitnot help thinking t'nfc we aio suiF-'ing from the results of 0110 of ihe u aide t experiments that humanity has evir ti'.d ; and T ontioat those who institute! thai cqvr meii l ; to join me in tryi.ig to geb tho co'ony out of the difficulty which that ex« periment has cr ahrl lam leady to admit t'aat it was a noble task to endeav ur to 0 jtain fiee inatitutions for the colony of .New Ze.ilanl, aud I am quite certain that the Middle Island has very muoh to be thankful for to those gentlemen whose advocacy caused ftee institutions to be obtained But to introduce free institutions iuto the Northern Island, and to attempt, by ineaus of them, to govern a land ii which nine-tenths of the landed gentry — if I may bo permitted to xjrostituto tue word " gentiy' 1 — were birba'ous savages, and three-tenths of them cannibals, was a chimera which I venture to say will exsite the wond -r of our grandchildren, and cause thorn many a pang, long bcfoie the debts in which those institutions have involved us have been liquidated, Mr. Pox moved that the Chairman do leave tho chair, report progress, and ask leave to sit again on Friday week. ife trusted tho hon. member would understand that he dil not make the motion with any desiie to shelve the question, or to prevent, or in any way ev.ule, the fullest discussion on the very important resolutions w.'iiuh he had brought before the House. The hon. member would agree that it was quite impossible to enter upon tho discussion of the matter until the principles oa which the Government was prepared to take its Btaud in leference to military mattors and the defence of the country Were before the Flouse. 'J lie Government would be ready to go into the whole subjoot by Friday week, when they would be prepared to discuss the question with every des.re to give the fullest and most careful coiiBideiatiou to the hon. member's resolutions, By thai; time he trusted the Home would be in a position to consider the whole subject of the defence of the colony, and Le in possession of the views of the Government on the matter. The debate was adjourned until Friday week,