THE VETO SILL.

Dominion, Volume 4, Issue 981, 23 November 1910, Page 5

THE VETO SILL.

SECOND READING MOVED. LORD LANSDOWNE'S SCHEME. A NEW WAY OUT. By Telegraph—Press Association— Copyrijht. (Rec. November 22, G.dO p.m.) London, November 21. In tho House of Lords the Earl of Crewe, Secretary of State for India, moved the second reading of tho Veto Bill. Lord Roberts withdrew liis defence motion, Lord Crewo stating that the Government' would be unable to arrange for its. discussion at the present juncture. . Lord Lansdowne,, Leader of tho Opposition, gave notice of his intention to move on Wednesday resolutions dealing with tho procedure in case of a dead-lock between tho two Houses. The resolutions favour a referendum on matters of great gravity, the t Lords foregoing their right to reject or amend purely financial and money Bills, and the question of tacking to be settled by a joint, committee of both Houses, the Speaker having a casting-vote.. NEWSPAPER ADVICE, TO 'FRUSTRATE LIBERAL PLANS. ' (Rec. November 22, 6.40 p.mO London, November CI. "The Times" recommends the House of Lords to pass its own resolutions dealing With its reform, and thus frustrate the aciion of the Liberals in suppressing'their discussion.

The, "Spectator" urges Conservative concentration, . and the subordination of everything to the reform of tlio House of Lords. It recommends the Lords to pass the Veto Bill intact, with a clause providing for the taking of a referendum before the operation of the new provisions. UNIONIST WORKING MEN. CANDIDATES IN THE FIELD.- \ - London, -November 21. . Several Unionist working men's candidates for seats in the House of Commons are, announced. They ■ include-.— Mr. Ben Dent, for the Macclesfield Division of Cheshire. Councillor Campbell, Stockport. Mr. Will Ripon, Norwich. Mr. Tom Smith, Hyde Division of Cheshire. '. Alderman Walker, Attercliffe Division of Sheffield. Mr. Bagley, Radoliffe Division of Lancashire.. .REFORM OR REVOLUTION? ME. BONAR LAW'S PREFERENCE. (Rec. November 22, 10.20 p.m.) London, November 22. Mr. Bonar Law, Unionist M.P. for the Duhvich Division 6f Cumborwcll, speaking at .North-West Manchester, advocated the reform of the House of Lords, so as to enable the constitution gradually to meet the changed conditions of a changed world. The Unionists preferred reform to ■ revolution. He was not an extreme Tariif Reformer, but he was in earnest and desired that any necessary change should be as little revolutionary as possible. '

PAYMENT OF MEMBEFIS,

MR. ASQUITH QUESTIONED. (Rec. November 22, G. 40 p.m.)

London, November 21. In tho' House of Commons Mr. Asquith, in. reply to a question, said . lie. was not prepared to state what amount, if. any, it was proposed to fix for members' salaries. . \

TARIFF REFORM ISSUE. . ' THE DUTY ON WHEAT. (Rec. November 22, 10.30 p.m.) ' . London, November 22.. . Mr. Austen Chamberlain, who • was Chancellor of. the Exchequer in tlio last Unionist Administration, in a letter to Mr. Bernard, a .candidate for North Bucks, states that the maximum duty on wheat - proposed by the Tariff Reformers is sixpence a . cwt., or two shillings . a quarter. This would be applied to foreign wheat only. Home grown and colonial.wheat would be free, and the figures named would not be qxceeded. It was desirable to encourage the importation of the whole grain instead of flour, so as to enable milling to be done ,in Great Britain, and to give the farmers tho offal to feed their stock. The duty on ilour should ,be proportionally somewhat higher than that on wheat.

TOEING THE LINE LIKE MEN. , A." NATIONALIST VIEW. .London, November 21. Mr. Michael Joyce,' Nationalist M.P. for Limerick City, speaking at meetings in Whitechapol on the anniversary of tho execution of Larkin and O'Brien, "the Manchester martyrs," said that Mr. Asquith's speech on Friday last indicated that the Liberal party had toed the lino like men.

The "Manchester Martyrs" is tho torm applied by Irish Nationalists to Allen, Larkin, and O'Brien, who were hanged in 1867 for having murdered Policc-Ser-geant Brett at Manchester in tho previous year, whilst they were attempting to rescue the Fenion prisoners under his* charge. Tho obsequies of tho "Manchester Martyrs" have been celebrated annually in Ireland. 'THE OSBORNE JUDGMENT, ' A DEPUTATION. (Rec. November 23, 1.40 a.m.) London, November 22. Mr. Asquith received a deputation from tho Trado Union Political Freedom League, which' is against tho reversal of the Osborne judgment. Ho promised to submit the deputation's arguments to his colleagues before coming to a decision. THE LORDS AMD THE TARIFF. MR. CHAMBERLAIN'S VIEWS. (Rec.- November 23, 1.15 a.m.) London, : November 22. Mr. Joseph Chamberlain, in a letter to the West Birmingham Unionist Association, emphasised two issues firstly, the Second Chamber question, and, secondly, tariff reform. He added that on the is.sues raised depend the prosperity of the country and the welfare of tho. people of the Union and the Empire.

SPEECH BY MR. LLOYDGEORGE. LORDS AND LUXURIES. THE TORIES AND THEIR BOGEY (Rcc. November 23, 0.12 a.m.)

London, November 22. Mr. ..Lloyd-George, . Chancellor of the Exchequer, addressing a gathering of 5000 persons at Mile End, claimed that ho

had a due sense of his responsibility as Cabinet Minister. He declared that they could trust the Government not to provoke a wanton election, or an election without tho certainty of a final decisive majority.

The rejection of tho Budget of 1909 had precipitated tho present crisis. Money was needed for defence, and for the great schemes of social reform. The Government proposed to tax the great incomes and fortunes, and the luxuries of all classes. Tho Lords demanded that great wealth bo spared, that luxuries be free, and that burdens bo. imposed on the bread and meat of the peoplo. The Government had answered, "No!"' The Lords then said, "Out with the Budget!" and the Government now asked the people to say, "Out with the House of *Lords!" After insisting on the complete ilnancial success of tho Budget, Mr. LloydGeorgo remarked concerning tho statement that the dissolution was made at Mr. Redmond's dictation, that the Tories must always have a bogey. This time it was a gilt-edged bogey framed in American dollars. " Since when had tho aristocracy started despising American dollars? Many a noble house tottering to its fall had had its foundations pinned up with American dollars. Mr. Redmond, on the whole, had been a stern critic of the Budget. It was British measure to meet a British t demand, and its .rejection was an insult which the British democracy had resented. Tho Lords' schemes for their own reform were shams.' What was wanted was a Parliament which attended to the country's business, so as to enable justice to have as easy an access to tho grey homes of the people as to the palaces of the mighty. * A STORMY SSTTINC. THE LORDS AND REFORM, COUNTRY NOT TO BE MISLED. (Rec. November 23, 1.15. a.m.) London, November 22. .The House of Lords had a remarkable sitting to-day which came to a sudden dramatic and angry close. Lord Crewe, in a moderate speech; argued that tho Parliament Bill oiFered no risk of hurried legislation. He, coinplained that it was unfairly described as a single Chamber proposal, and commanded tho Bill as restoring a reasonable measure "of freedom to the chosen representatives of a-*free nation.

Lord Lansdowne, Leader of the Opposition, in securing an adjournment until to-morrow, emphasised the .point that had there ■ been a ' free ; discussion and a possibility of amending tho Bill, many Peers would have supported its second reading, he proposed that tho House should on Wednesday discuss the resolutions ho .was now tabling, with a view to completing' tho Lords' own scheme of reform, of which tho first part was embodied in Lord Rosobery's resolutions, ■

Lord Crewe' inquired whether the. resolutions would bo moved as an amendment to tho motion for tho Mcond reading of the Bill.

Lord Lansdowne: "All I propose is to adjourn the 'discussion."

Lord Crewo : again askpd Lord Lansdowno his intentions. ■ .

Lord Salisbury -replied, "It is intolerable that tho Peers should. bo restricted to ayo or no. If thoy wero not allowed to submit alternati.vo proposals with reforenco to' the Bill in detail after tho sccond reading, they would do so before tho rost of tho couhtry was misled."

Lord Beauchamp, First Commissioner for Works, said tho Opposition asked for tho Bill and then ran away.

(Eeo. November 23,1.15 a.m.) London, November 22. It is stated, on high nuthority, that tho Government would have, been willing to accept an amendment making the Par-, liament Bill operativo during tho life of tho present Parliament.