HEATED DEBATE.

Dominion, Volume 3, Issue 715, 14 January 1910, Page 6

HEATED DEBATE.

I , ; ' ON EASTBOURNE AFFAIRS. J MAJOR AND COUNCILLOR ( •-• "ywtOTday's: meeting -of tlie Eastbourne before. at j thje} time / was; whether em- : ployees of- He corporation : should - be: allowed to undertake •private work, even-in , their spare ; . time—a matter which; has Ijgl'liore^.th'an"dnce 'ibeeii '■ previously ''debated :;•;"{at' the <>onncil. table; -Upon .the Mayor te-.-ij,-' (Mr; 1 inqmnng from; the town clerk • -.-'lf there ivas any report on, the amount :;":;"df : saiiitary ;"v" employee ,-had- {d6ne"dnjing .' the month," Councillor,'. Russell, roso -to : his. fedt; but ; was at once mot by a mandato from the j,-,:.; Mayor :-"Sit down while-1 am speaking." Counoillor; Ruseell declined to do so. : ; Tho-Mayor"l order you to sit down." RussellYou'havo no right : : :,;to. 'keep i standing, .■• seeing that I. have p^iisonV ; i;:S;';":;,:: v .' •.'■ ■■ F-.ji!-':-f-,J'At, this-stage Connallor.Robertson said {'■■ sto - Councillor ,'R.usseU: "Are you - gomg f to defy the Mayor?" ~ Councillor RnsseU (angrily): l am going defy.''-anythingtW. whole :;. thing p'iv." amounts- to persecution.' {.>'■''...{{-:.,' /h.., Mayor' went on tb eay; that; every f " • tinie. that . the . matter camo up,' it was !'■ like a red rag to a bull-to: a particular 1 councillor. |Councillor..'Russell (excitedly): Name ti:'.-:-liim! >.Name-him? I am not ashamed -'.".of my name.' •' My '.name is Russell. . • ?,Kv.bi..','The Mayor:, Every time that tho ques:;{.;'.{;..tion : ' CoTincillor Russell takes i;" -up the--.time.of-the.coimcil -with, his f . ',-".Tiows. ;.The'council has lmd. enough of fe'S--., them.. :I'consider- that I .have a right ;to > ■ ~" get a report'as't6 how each * corporatian |i •' porker; employs . his time.' {"y " S'. '.. Councillor Russell: You have not.. " - -The Mayor:'.The,'.council docs x not wish .'to -deal : arbitrarily .'with : this;, man, ■ but fe? !; rP®°P' e 'complainihgitliat : lie: also - does;.outside work.-Wo agreed -that; whenever, he: waatted to do. outside fsf. /i.work he was to apply, to the foreman; and ; .' at su(sh' time' he had either to-put on an--pay ■ for me "time iji j. , question. ' / Jr"-;---.Councillor.Snisisell: : l rise to a poiijt of j{" : : .order.". -. -• '{-.-,;; t --:.. ! :- : 'Tho Mayor: There: can be no point'of .;loider.'-whilst I Jam- speaking. ,;. I say that .yon ire out of-order. ' ' t-- .. . . Tho Mayor: slf'-you-get;.up agam -I will irospeM~you;{fqr'.'tt6{; rest I of, the'meeting.; : j * Counoßor 'Russell: I'don't care - what | - you do.. You aro bnnjing this on, re- ; ihe. was .'entitled, to'dd.'-, i.-Z-i'-';. •; - >:{ : i' : |".{"-"; /After-\; a- brief ; panse . and - ! GOme discus- ' f;" /Kpn, .Conncillorlßttsseir p.nt'tho position ti'.-. / from'-,: his.:point, .of ; -He, said j that . " ithe "wlM!o..'of ...thK'troutlb 'aVoso {.ojer'-'a r*""-' cargo'" oficoal'which.' h.ad "been'consigixxl ■ ! i ;:-. he;.could .'not: get';o'thcr..cairriers, :he ap-; '. I-*; ' : pealed , , employee : in -question and f" ~ another .'borpbration ;employce';t'o assist }?> ■ . tun, which-they did. Tho noxt day he f;:, !,.hoaxd j that '.the 'Mayor/had said: that, ho : '-eiderabte warmth ho added :• "Theso'-pin- V . pnoks and-petty .perseoauons on the part- -. a. ; :;of, the Mayor-are"becoming.'unbearable-"- ; jThe-.Mayor replied that'.the matter had ■; r":.;.; : '{ feeiL raisod; before 'the cargo of' ' Russet '. pi;J®;;wM;:not ; frefOTihg;.to"that>matter:at: ; b-.iiiell, but tb'the.qnestion{in'a general way.: 1 i-',-::;, AU; : that -. was wanted- .was that corpora-- : f h tion employes should not be paid <by f: -.-: iho borough whilst ■ they vvero doing pn- ■ jT , Tate work. ' Even if he lost Councillor -goodwill, he: ; -would '''continue: toi ? 1 [• . ,work only . in] tho, interests -of 'tho -bor- ■ fc ough., , Councillor:: Russell: - Will -. you - 1 f ,w.. ■ (where .the interests of - the. borough have > I. Buffered? , fv:.-,' - As.,tho Mayor made no reply, it looked' ' ti;;.as .if; the ■ inoident had' closed, but" a 1 mo- 1 or two. his ,' fprgbtten to ask >Ccmn- ;! " . . cillor;.Ros3e!l , to-, s withdrawa - : remarkL iWhicphe'had mide'fo the effect that ho ; , (Mr: Barr) liad stated /that, he ' residt ! i'V;: °L oorporatwji; employees helping Conn- i ;;Buseell:;with.:'his;cdal;'V"{\ : ; : ■' K; .' i Councillor R-ussell -replied that. ho • had ' 1.';....;.®0. personal aniinosity. towards the Mayor, 1 . but he (tho Ala)or) had been too hard on 1 she employee in. question. • . i ' v Who told you that' I was ' ®wng to make trouble over it? 1 j" ;v : Robertson: - The {whole quos* ifi.'whether w© are. .going to.pay - .'this } ananf-for'doing corporation work while he 1 Lsj;Sß -cartine. coal for, someone else; , ! [' ' Councillor Russell: I paid him. E'.^iV ji-;Councillor,Robertson;- Thenrl \ull.see ; teSfihat, something is-jdwlueted. from his-:iac-the','corporation ; if ; T hb':.did time.::-,", {{, ' , K^U)i: j ' Bv#}^;nanw?;"f: : '{ivv":"p:;\i-V , ;? j': ~' I, ■ ' CoTmcillor :E"nssell: ■ All :,I • will say. is ■] j t thai it was ourrent gossip. The Mayor: TiVell,'in.future, when yon ' ~ : /.it-verified or keep ii to yourself. .. ''> ' , At.this Conncillor Foley entered •v" • .protest,against- the.: continuance -of-,:the! ."..:.. : BquiAb]e, .and-'ConrciUor Organ,ventured .: "{' Ithe.'.opmioa that; the ' councii'Q employees 'i ehould' Eot bo allowed: to -be ' taken off- j : - their work to do outside work.' v ' | ---. j. ;The. Mayor: Privato employers should "•'"lfflly get .tho' loiin. of; any of; our workers, s-i on' conditioni that. the time wis deducted. : :> ;■ Councillor Organ:; It 'ls'.not {a practice ■. ' to be encouragod I ~- ,-- .-ThoJlayor, , replying -to a 1: councillor, . : ;that it -was- true that the.man did /, tlfewprEviiv his own' time'. .' : ;. - - {Councillor"Foley held- that.' the : .em- : pioyco' was'.wbrthy. of respect., Councillor K^yßussell;'was s doing him more 'harm than ; f: -good bycontinuafly-riaifging over the mat-. : tor. ;• The . way, in which ho (Councillor Enssell) had wasted tho time of.the..conn- { " ;j: lil >vas ' ; 1 , .'. j,.Councillor Russell:■ The .Mayor'; brings {; ;: Bp .these, matters....... '•.. .t •. j ■, Councillor'Robertson:' And- yon magnify I ihem ' Councillor Russell: Let.the Mayor leavo J alone. . ■ : ; ■ ; Councillor Robertson: ;And you- should i "j ;loiye"the..corporation workers alone,: : and! i r"get to do-your work;V . >{, v- ■, "As. .of an hour had been, 'j ""- ' taken'.up'.Dn' the' matter,; counciliors: ap- {] i {to , ;ithiiik"that'';it''{wbu]d r {he better- j I'.' to-let the matter :drop y as;they,',wish«l; to ; . • i'...:{ { get-away,-and the-disputants acceded to "