"ANOTHER PLACE."

Dominion, Volume 3, Issue 689, 14 December 1909, Page 5

"ANOTHER PLACE."

THE EELATIONS BETWEEN HOUSE AND ' .:••' ..'. . ; .".'. ..- .'.COUNCII,.: '','i,-' ■ .:*■/'.; Speaking in thcHouse^yes'terdayJafternoon", Mr. Massey said he gathered from, the morn,ing papers that the Leader, of : the Legislative' Council- had listened; ; to Ispeeches'.. in ! the. House \™,V?, U11 P' L ' ro '«"as auvuttwrittcn law, Avheh hitherto, had been'yery;strictly , observed that no nohco should.be taken in one Chamber of ,the debates in the'other. :He,was this rule Jiad been broken, and suggested that ,the House should consider whether tho.,.'provision of a special gallery for.membbrs of the Council shoufd bo disc'piitinued.in Sir Joseph ■ Ward said lie had 'no knowledge' of tho: circumstanco referred' to ■ • : ■ ■-■ :' HnTwifi course ,°f >»is..reply. in connect noil .with the second reading!, of ? the' Death Duties ; . Bill in the. Council "last ' night, S jUtoraey-beneral. warmly referred: to what ho aescribed as , misrepresentation and unfair criticism of some remarks which ho had made \?7i'" oVlng 'J lO second-reading-of tho measure . unen opening the-second reading; he • had reterred to.certain inconsistencies "on the part, of certain critics of the Bill,; amoiigstother things ho~ had: said. that there was : proudly nothing more'curious to impartial ob.sorvers of politics than to observe tho inconsistent manner in which a Bill'of- the kind vnas. discussed. He had gone on to say tliat there had been. unmitigated cant on tho part of critics of the. Bill,' and he would repeat.that statement; ■" ' " ::, • Jt ' ; ' '-■■-'• ■' ,Dr. Findlay added: "i'did'notTefer to"an--other place, nor to the-critics of the Bill \in another place, , and I'ask-members to say if that.is not the. case.-- khow," I was dealing with certain critics ■ of' the Bill—' wherever they: might - be. To-day I have been charged With a gross breach'of a constitutional rule, which 'demands traditional respect 1 between .the. two, Houses, but'as. nienibers'aro aware I have been guilty of no-breach" of" the' rule, nor do I know of anyone who has been guilty of any such.breach. There was not one word said-whatever of anything' said "in" onothor place-about-the- Hill. T spoke' only of ff' ) », M « a V tin e; critics, who, after supporting the Bill in principle, proceeded to damn it in detail. I repeat what T said most' deliberately, and I-don't cure whose toes T tread on' "This Chamber," Dr/Fiudlay added,'' "lias always shown" observance' of the traditional respect due.by it to the:other- place;- Wo have never derogated, insulted,.:or reflected on the' character of another place, but 1 while we have maintained .this'.position, with.: dignity, , : 1; say that we have been reflected on in a way that is creditable 'to' certain': prominent persons in politics in another place There is one who pretends such a' religious regard for the traditional rules, including respect for another place-let him- ask himself whether he has not time and again offended not" only against good taste, but against the bast traditions of the- British Parliament- in' his reilectionson a House to which he does not belong. ■. y -.■..- y -'.'..-; , -~' . ■