UNIVERSITY SENATE?

Dominion, Volume 1, Issue 106, 28 January 1908, Page 4

UNIVERSITY SENATE?

BACHELOR OF LITERATURE

DEGREE.

A WARM (DISCUSSION.

SENIOR SCHOLARSHIP FOR.; LAW. 'The University , Senate transacted higlily important business at meeting y'<Sstorday. Mr. Baume's motion,,'''.["hat the Senate seek power frojn Parliament to establish tho degree of Bachelor of 'Literature,'! .was' carried after an animated discussion, an amendment to the effect that mathematics bo not compulsory for the degreo of Bachelor of Arts being defeated. Mr. Baumc's moutop,/'That ono senior i scholarship be offered, annually, for, law,'! was also passed, after. somo. discussion.. . . - The interim report of the Medical Committee, wai; adopted,. recommending somcini- . portant changes," and containing'tho list'of 'medical examiners for this year! 'l'ho . Law: Committee's report on tlio results of tho'iacent examinations is given in ftuothcr cohimn. ' 1 ■'■■V 7 PARTIAL IMPACT., •-:• ?.v . The Chancellor said that hehad\received a. letter from Professor Bickertori" on his theory of partial impact, suggesting that the Senate should appoint a committee to roporfc 011 tlici , evidence 111 its favour, and stating that he :• would be willing to-conjoto to. confer with the .'committee/-. Tho said that this application had come before the Sehato before, and ho. had pointed out to Professor Bickerton ;jjhat.!.it_-wasvno? con:-' pctent for the Senate scientilic ; . theories of that. kind. -^ a f r: i The 'letter was received. ' ..'.i J.... . V 1 PROPOSED NEV/ DEGREE; ~ BACHiSLOR OF .LITERATURE.. <;f 'Slrl Baumo moral. /:inV aecordapco'-- with- ; ■'noticeThat'''"tho" Senate "s'eo.li powbr from' . I'afliament. to ;; establisli,Sl6"dbgrCio/^.'of 1 Bachelor of Literature..'^ v Hp;.stifte<l (ha oh©' ••• • snbjcoiFfwas'~ J iirs!f, iiitrod^ett' by.Tso'mqJ re- ■ murks :;in ! the Chancellor I ,sL with the roport of. : Dr. Starr Jordan.; 'Thcro , wero in all University colleges.V'jiuinb'er of: .persons.- of Vhigh' '.intelltetual .Rapacity..;,who, wero still not abje ,to, grapple ■ .-t-h6."rs\lb-r jeet of mathematics, 'ami it anv\ato': .. worth \ considerationwhether 1 should'not make provision to on such students, provided they-showed~ii' , sufficiently high standard. of cxcellenco in other subjects. The true object of fdu'oa'tion,J he submitted, was. not; carried.:out-..if /they, ..compelled people, to study .along lines ;,for-. which they wero not fittcd f 'and which' wero. of no use to them in later life/ "It was-too .late, to say that tho -j mental trairii'rijif'conferred by v. Irom other subjects'. He did not desire that this alternative degree.should ho made available to the .la*y. ;( stndcnt; or jtlvof.jtcrson jvho . simply wanted.to,attach somejlettyrs name. Ho -vyiuitfL also bo .> very'iwrry to-sec adopted a suggestion which ho ha'd heard; made that the B.A. degree should be conferred withont mathematics,being rcqui.raljit *11. implied that the student had gono through a . .certain course, including Latin, mathematics, and other subjects,; and had'reached a cer- -, tain standard. Tho degree had a, real valuo'; in ' thft v.-orld, and he' did 'not-think- -that-'its, , conditions should bo altered. The. degree of : ■ Bachelor of, Literature, he thought, might bo ' .confined'to students who had taken mathe-, ■ matics for matriculation, and who had showfi ,«xcelldnc<v.on. tho literary side. Tbo mathematics for matriculation might, perhaps, bo ■ made a littlo 'stiffer in view of tho ]ipw de s , jjred. The main point on which ho would liko to hear-expressions of opinion was whether it .was npt desirable to make somo provision tor increasing the number of courses which could bo adopted by a. student. Ho had 110 desire to. cheapen a degree, but without . going tho; full length of tho. elective system as it was carried out at somo* Universities' they ought to mako .the,: different- courses .as, varied agvpossible, so that earii'person.cdii.ld •: go through a course which would caiiducri most to tlio development of his'ispecial: abili-; ties. If. his proposal wero-adopted they iriight substitute two, or even three, subjects, in place of mathematics. Ho would withdraw the second ' part of his motion as originally . notified, which said: " That until such degreo is established mathematics Bo not compulsory . for tho degree of Bachelor of Arts." i,. ' Professor J. Macmillau Brown ..sKoricled; tho motion pro forma. - MR. G. HOGBEX'S VIKWS: : Mr. Gi Hogben said that ho was in sympathy to-somo extent with what underlay the motion, though lie mnst opposo it as it .stood, He had devoted a good deal, of, tnnn to studying' the systems oX the principal ■ American Universities, aud he found that .even- where an absolute choice' of ' courso seemed to''bo gjiren to the student, the right was.far from '.'ihsolute in practice;r beoauso tho student was onlv allowed t.n choose subject to tho head of his divisional department, who was:iablo to veto the. programmo of studies chosen if ho thought .that it would not provkjo sufficiently nll-rbimd'•"cult'urol v J'.vc-n in practice -thero was a wider choico of studios than in Now Zealand, hut not -so , wide a 1 choicc as might bo imagined from tho regulations. ( Ho thought that it - would bo undcsirablo to alloiv-unlimited choice: The V students university course, should form a. distinct whole, coherent and consistent.' As to tho ; desirahlenoss of-adopting a degree of Bachelor of Literature,-ho; thought-that as there w-as already, a degreo or. Bachelor of Scienco, they might possibly "make-the B.A. degreo more nearly a literary degree, so long as they did not injure its self-cou-sistency. From every pass, student .they, should require somo kind: (if ; -disciplino . such as was represented in their minds .by' niathe- : matics,' and if 110 did not actually t'ako that subject ho should take, ono of the sciences that gavo tho samo kind of training. A Member: Such as Louie. • ; •" Mr. Hogben did hot think that Logic would quito answer tho purpose. 'They would have to. rcconsider-the-conditions- of; their degrees, but it was just "as'weir'n'ot to* act in a hurry. They should form a.-scheme for a slight adjustment -of degrees, rind refer it to the colleges. Thero. was a system iu Great Britain of having 1111 intarmediate aurl also a l'iuaJ examination, the 1,-liter coi]tain- ' ing a smaller number of subjects than tlio former, but of a more advanued 'character. If this system were adopted the" filial cx- ' aminatiou might contain,, two, principal subjects, or oni: principal and. twp . subsidyrj 1 subjects. C-Th'o-Seriate should go slowly "l'ii this matter, but they. should recogniso tho fact that they would havb-to hiove,---He did not think it was desirable to form a separate degree. Ho thought that they could modify the B.A. degree to givo. the result they wanted. OPINIONS IN FAVOUR. Professor Shand--said- that ho was in favour'.of tho motion. There was 110 need to refer the matter to a committee till they had obtained power from Parliament to establish a degree. Tho degreo of Bachelor of Literature would ho,simply tho corollary of the degree of Bachelor of Seionco established come years ago. If bdth these, degrees wero granted, tho B.A. degreo would Ijo w.il] differentiated from them, and would still 'be a very useful degree. It would occup.V an intermediate position between tho other two. Sir Matirico O'Rorko 3aid that he was in favour of establishing, a degreo of Bachelor of Literature, but. ho was against lowering tin value of the B.A. degree by excluding mathejuatics. They -should keep the B.A. tWrve on the level which it held in othei p.of the world, and to do this not only classic-';, but a fair amount of mathematics, should be necessary to its acquisition. Mr. Baumo snid that ho did not intend tr move the second part of his motion, and that until such degree is-established mathoniatic; be not compulsory for the- degree of Bachelor of Arts. . _ WHAT WILL FOLLOW? • Dr. M'Dowell sympathised to a consider able extent with the motion, but stated tluii he would like to have more information a-'

...» .» v. ti . ;to h'o«v.tlic. change''.wiuld apply. Ho would liko'tb~k'rio\v";if""the~hew degree would lead up, to the- M.A\, or whether t.hero would bo introduced a 1 degree of 'Master.' of Literature. There, yi'ris now. a degreo of Doctor of Literature, which .'ho regarded as the apex of the litcraryv curse, and he wished to know whother the new degree would lead to that of Master, of , Litoratiiriy and thou to the degree of Doctor of Literature. He would he ;vory >'sorry to \ see the fI.A. .degree weakened, as that had long been a hall-mark of general educational •ofndiency. ' It was largely' a" professional 'degree for teachers,, "ami: it(Wonjkl.be a pity to lower the demands made of the' teaching' profession in resp'octof mathematics in the B.A. examination,, Soma pcoeess, of .grading might be introiliiccd,',);() • students, who were bad iii mathematics ; a higher grade in literature might bo made to compensate for a lower '.grade'i'lt mathematics, but lie. did not. think studeut should receive a 15.A. degree who had only passed the mathematics test of jliatrimifaticii. • of mathematics under a professor wasMMrather different kind of intLdlcctual.,tviiiuiis.,fro!ii its study in the school... 1 ; ' " " "'DRIVEN' CJATTLE. , Professor J. Macmillan Brown said lie would he willing to.'.aee the matter referred to a committeo so long as it was not a Recess \Connnittce. To refer a .subject to a Recess/.Committpe .almost always meant shelving the question. The proposal should •ho ; linked''into shape before going to the Professorial Boards. : He had always been fighting for some relief to tho literal? stu'.'H? thfflight -.'that •he -had been a humanitarian inMhat Ho wanted ,'rclWf.' for'thif 'poor students who had been driven like cattle through mathematics. (A member: To the slaughterhouse:) Yes, to the slaughterhouse. There were also the professors to be considered; He did should' bo required to drive ; these ' poo/-students through the mathematical \subjects. There was. always '.i'proportion of-students who were the hcarthreak of the mjrt-heuvftficiil professor. He thought that the Senate should relieve theso jirofessors, an'dWthefHffibuld also relieve tho students of'having ..to ta'ie a subject-which tlie.y. ]oatli6dy'wliich l "t)i'ey rejected as soon as thb}^liad,jg6ne.^"itKjoiigh it, and which j)ositiyely all- their lives if it ■was■ nientioiiptl'y.fb;.tlicm. : \He denied that mathematics was'tlio 'backbone of all degrees mparts,\fihd!"stated that at Oxford the re(H(\r.ementS ';.jn .this Jreßpect. were less than ;fir : ' ; Now-;"Zqalarid; must:'not continue ; (etjs| iif. they were, goinK to 'tiphold'Tihn Stuucl'afil lof their. degrees, -fhe.v should put liogeys and traditions which hampered; theni in endeavouring to fol.low«.thci'r :Own' : iritelligence, their own'common sense: M^ioy.';sh'oul(r : sit down in Committeo shape tho opposing part's of'this uuostion.',; ' Thley should not go before fyibficorith 'scheme, hut see 'the proj}osed"ii("\v degrees would stand to.,other.fl, l .'ci'r .wliotlier it would bo better to modify their present degrees.; i' ,' •Sir.', jstqted. that,- having heard tile. yiews'of :ono 'of' tho- cattle it , was'Vnly''; , fai'r >l fbr them ; to hear oho .of tho -cattle. (LiMi£htor.)'"No'.'6no had hated mathematicsciSorti than'he had done when ho was going through his course, but he felt that lie must have obtained somo benefit from tho a! sti;aj^,o^dflU!iB < .^9J' l e t hing, uncongenial, • aiifl '.{here'.-w'as Stou&mnch modern tendency fdlorfili&a. ihe wuaeut of everything .that was uncongenial to him. They could not 'touch.one part of the system without interfering with another, and this matter raised —coinpiilsory subjects, and at what stage they should bo compulsory. They were.'in danger of creating a number of decrees that' would make men narrow spepialigts.j.without the general 'culture which''thft "University should provide. Before .they multiplied new degrees thoy' should have, a survey of their University | c<jnca(iio« gss a whole.

THE CHANCELLOR'S PAST EFFORT'S. Tho Chancellor, replying to that nothing, .should be done iu a hurry; said lie'foiln'd'that this matter had taken atleast, 22 years to discuss. (Professor Maemillan Brown: Thirty.) He had moved liiiih sell' in the matter 22 years ago, and it was' said then that the Senate ought not to pro-' cocd quickly. In 1889 he moved that a re- .< 5038 ~co,qi mit,teo,., should,, consider the establishment' of.tl'eferecs fOr'Bnchelors of Science •a psi',soll who. might, be'brilliant in literature; - .and LL.Mp . ajid Xl/.D degrees. In 1804 he moved that, there should be a better system of- specialisation ,: -bf' l studies, and that subjects for-tho iB. A. degree'should bo specialised as follow:—A course for classics, a literary course, and a philosophical oourso. Under this scheme a person would havetakosi a B.A. decree in classics, B.A. in literature, or B.A.jn philosophy. He also suggested four£,pt:jiiore; qoflrse.j', v for tho li.Sc. degree. the matter would require timo "for consideration, and tho proj'ppffolS'.jrcre defeated by 17> votes to 3. Now, pnfe more, after, fourteen years, tho Sonate apparently thought that the timo was not yet ripe for consideration. die denied altogether that mathematics was necessary for trainiiip . the ( reasoning. faculties. This could be'done'by logic or '-biology',' just as well as by mathematics. Ho was not aware of any great?' reasoning abilify- shown by a great mathematician outside of mathematics. Was . apecson who misht be T brilliaut in literature, brilliant in history, brilliant in logic, and brilliant iu philosophy, to lie denied, a dc-grce-bccause ho could not do mathematics? He denied altogether,, because a man had done-'mathematics«Rufficiontly well to obtain a pass in the University, that that stamped him as. ft better..educated man than the. other. Ho thought that they could modify the-8.A.. degree as lie had suggested years 'ag&."Wis •it iwiic ito<fleclaro that no. one should get- a degree 1 in' arts unless 110 could pass'in ;mathoma.tics? That was what it all camo- to. It was no use to say that the Senato had not . had. time to consider the question. .-■ Ho-, was sorry .that' Mr. Baumo had liot moved' the,se<;ond resolution, which would have tested the matter' directly. Ho -was in favour of having tho degrees high, but he denied that a man who might be ignorant :pf evolution'; apd philosophy, of the questions' that wero "in' all tho nowspapers .concerning :;tho origin of lifo, could be better educated than a man who had studied all those subjects, but" was unablo to pass an examination in .mathematics. A man who did not'know . about Itlitse things might bo called an educated mdrf by tho University; he did not think that Jic would bo called an educated man outsido-The University. AN AMENDMENT. The Rev. A, Cameron moved as an amendment: "That mathematics be not compulsory for the He thought that to estalilisii a "new degree would bo very grievously to harm the B.A. degree. If the proposal were carried a committee could be asked In up a syllabus. Tho ;HoV. CrC'i-BoV.'en said that tho tend-. to bo to minimise tho compulsory subjects for degrees so long as Avhat'.they required'were sufheient to constitute a sound education. It was a very liarrow way_ to deal with education to say that a man must,not take up and exert his wind upon what ho was capable of doing because ho "could not do something else. Ho hoped that tho amendment would bo carried. AN IMPORTANT POINT. Mr. Hogbon asked whether it was meant that a certain amount of mathematics should bo compulsory for matriculation. Ho did not know of any University in tho world whero a man could tako a degreo without doing somo mathematics.' IIo"would voto for tho motion if. it was understood that mathomatics, not necessarily of a high standard, would bo required for matriculation. Mr; Cameroii said' that that question would bo considered by ,tho .committee. ■ Mr. Hay, Mr. Cohen, and Professor R. J. Urown said v that they must .- oppose the amendment if it- was not limited to the case of men who had passed„in mathematical subjects, other than arithmetic, which is already compulsory when taking their matriculation. Professor R. J. IJfown also mentioned that in somo colleges professors wero paid according to their fees. If they did not put up somo barrier against the dropping of mathematics there would bo a great stampede from that subject, which was very unpopular as a B.A. subjcct to mnny students. In that easo tho - profess'ors'" salaries, would he affccteil, though he. would not emphasise that argu- ■ mniit. •- : It was agreed to make the amendment apply to students who had passed niatriculaliuii 111 arithmetic, geometry, au'd algebra.

Professor Sliand tlionght that tho question could be most easily solved by establishing a second degree. Uo would voto for tho original motioii, mid against tho amendment. ■Mr: Hav said that ho would do the same. Or. M'Dowell expressed thq Game intention. He still,thought that there was a great deal to ho said in favour of retaining lhauicmatics for training t-ho reasoning faculties of tho average man, who did not '.take mental scienco and similar subjects. j)r. Fitehett decried the arguments that there would be a stampede from mathematics, and that 'professors' salaries would be affected. [Jo would support the amendment. Ho did not .approve of multiplying degrees. l'rofcssor.• Maemillan Brown doubted whether Parliament would authorise another new degree, wluyi tho Privy Council had refused to grant thoso previously requested. , RAISING A FRANKENSTEIN. .■ Mr. Baumo said lie did not like the idea of doing away with mathematics altogether for tho fi.A. degree, lie felt that ho had raised a Frankenstein, and that Mr. Cameron's motion, if it were passed, would inflict a. great injury on tho'University and tho B. A. degree. If they took a vote of the graduates of the Dominion, they would, find them almost entirely in favour of-the B.A. as it was. , If they took a vote .of the boys who were coming on, thoy would find them in favour of abolishing mathematics, or anything else that mado hard work. Ho would sooner see both motion and amendment lost than tho amendment carried. Tho motion was then put, after tho Parliamentary procedure: " 1 hat the words 'That the Senate seek power from Parliament to establish tho degree of Bachelor of Literaturo' stand part of tho question.'?" This was carried by 11 votes to 10. The amendment thus being lost, tho motion was'put and adopted. j SENIOR SCHOLARSHIP FOR LAW. . Mr. Baumo moved, in accordance with notice,: " That one senior' scholarship be given annually for law." He urged that Roman and International Law, which it was desired to encourage, wore as much eulturo subjects as any others.l -, There, was no subject better worthy of a. scholarship than Roman Law. It possessed all tho qualifications, and certainly it possessed the qualification, which seemed to bo especially prized, that no one could make a living from it. International law was also a subject of which vory littlo use could be made in this country for purposes, of ; a livelihood. ; Thero was money available for tho scholarship, and ho asked'the Senate','in all fairness to a largo body of students and in all fairness to the community, for whom it was desirable that thero should bo cultured men at the Bar, to provide, a scholarship in either. of- these two subjects. '■ ■ . seconded the motion; ' After-some discussion in which the claims of meflicino and engineering to scholarships were, alluded to, the Rev. A. Cameron moved that tho matter of new scholarships be deferred until tho- Financo Committee had brought up its report. Professor,J. Maemillan Brown seconded tho amondment., : . .' • Mr. Baume, replying in support of tho motion, said that nil that had.been asked for in respect 'of medicino'and engineering was' a travelling scholarship. The amendment'was lost, and the: motion carried. Mr. Von Haast gave notice of motion that tho matter, bo referred to the Law Committee to givo effect'to the resolution. The l?ev. A. Cameron gave notice :of motion-that a travelling scholarship be established for medicine. MEDICAL COMMITTEE'S REPORT. Reference was mado in the Chancellor's report to a clause in tho Calendar regarding certificates of proficiency. TJli'e clauso states: "No candidate'for n : certificnto : shall ho examined in any subject of the examination for the degreo of Master of Arts or Scienco until he has obtained' a certificate in the . same subject at an examination for the degreo of 'Bachelor of Arts 'or of Soienco." A remit from the University ofiico asked, " May a medical candidate similarly situated tako the special examination in - April?" Tho . Medical Committee, in their interim report, recommended that the applications''referred to bo grantcfl, and this was approved. Tho samo committee recommended:— • "That Section V/ of th<r Statute "Degree of Bachelor of Medicino" bo altered as follows:—'A candidate who has failed in any of tho subjects of tho Intermediate or of the First or. Second Professional Examinations, or who has for any reason been unablo tc sif, shall ho admitted to a special examination to be held in tho month of March oi April,' aiid that Clause VI. of tho saint Statute bo altered by omitting the words, "Provided that before hoing admitted to reexamination, he shall be required to furnish a certificate, showing that- he has > received further instruction in that subject.' "That tho number of lectures required ir Materia Metlica he. reduced from 60 to 50.' "That the proposals submitted by tho teach' ers of tho. subjects in tho affiliated college; for definitions of botany and zoology foi matriculation be adopted as follows:— Elementary Botany:—(a) The structure and life-history of any flowering plant, nnc of a fern, (b) The elementary physiology of plants, including simple experiments il lust-rating..nutrition, transpiration, r.espira tiou, germination, and growth. (Candidate! may bo required to describe'experiments anc sketch simple app&ratus employed.) (c) Tin modifications of roots, stems, and leaves foi different purposes, parasitism, arrangement! for pollination of flowers, modes of dispersa of seeds, (d) The classification of flowering plants, and the chief characters of Granu ilea;) Liliaowo, Irideto, Salicinem, Itanuncu lacerc, Cri.ciferte, Rosacea!, 1 Lcguminos® Violacc®, Umbcllifcriß, Ericaceio, Scrophu larineie Compositie. Candidates will be ex pectcd to have dissected common' flowers o •the orders referred to above, with the aid wliero necessary, of a simple lens. "That elementary zoology he defined as foi lows: —The general structure and physiolog; of - the 'higher vertebrates. Candidates wii bo expected to have studied practically tin chief organs of some mammal such as rah hit or sheep:—viz.,- heart, lungs, liver larynx, eye, kidney, and to bo practicall; acquainted with tho skeleton of some mam mal other than man. Toachers aro rccom monded to exhibit simple experiments am 1 simplo apparatus to illustrate tho physiolo 1 gical processes going on in the body, sue! as osmosis, respiration, action of enzyme (e.g., saliva on starch). "That the proposal submitted for ail ad dition to the syllabus of biology for the 111 termcdiute Medical Examination bo adoptci ■ as follows: —In the list of zoological type ■ (Calendar p. 104) add before "Fluke" Mpnc ; cystis." 4 ■

The' recommendations were approved, but. it, was provided that the one relating; to elementary botany shall not come into iorco until the end of 1009. MEDICAL EXAMINERS. Mcdical examiners for tho year were appointed as follow :— C Medicine: Biology—Professor Thomas, M.A., Auckland. Physics—Professor Shand, M.A., LL.D., Dunedin. Inorganic. Chemistry—Professor Evans, M.A., Ph.D., Christchurch. Organic Chemistry — Professor Easterfiekl, M.A., Ph.D., Wellington. All--v—Professor Scott, M.1)., Dunedin : and W. W. Moore, M.8., F.R.C.S., M.R. C.F., Napier. Physiology—Ppofessor Malcolm, M.1)., Dunedin; and if. Stevenson, M.li., C.M., Christchurcli. Pathology—W. S. Roberts, M.R.C.S., Dunedin; and R. H. Makgill, M.D., Wellington. Materia Medica —E. E. Blomficld, M.D., Dunedin; and K H. Alexander, M.8., Dunedin. Medical Jurisprudence and Public Health —F. Truby King, M.U., B.Sc.j Dunedin; and H. dn Wour, M.11.C.b., Dunedin. Surgery aiid Clinical Surgery—L. E. Harnett, M.H., I'MI.C.S., Dunedin; aud T. O. Savage, .M.8.. F.R.0.5., Auckland. Medicine and Clinical Medicino—D. Colquhoun, M.1)., M.R.C.P Dunedin; and W. K. Fyffo, M.D., M.R.C.P., Wellington. Medical and Surgical Anatomy —L. F. Harnett, M.1!., F.R.C.S., Dunedin; aud Professor Scott, M.D., Dunedin. Midwifery anil Diseases of Women—F. C. Riley, F.U.C.S., Dunedin; nnd W. E. Fwart, M.8., C.M., Wellington. For M.l). General Medicine—.l. Wyllie, M.1)., LL.D., Kdiuburgh. Mental Diseases— F. S. Clonstoii, 'M.D., lOdinbiirgh. Midwifery—A. L. (ialabiii, .M.D., London. COURSE IN MUSIC. A clauso of the calendar referring to tho .course in music states-.—"Candidates for the

degree of Bachelor of Music, who shall havo passed in Physics, or Latin, Greek, French, or Gorman, in either tho examination' for the degree of Bachelor of Arts or tho examination for tho degree of Bachelor of Science, shall not be required to pass again ill'such subjcct or subjects -in' the-intermediate examination for the dogrco of Bachelor of Music." Tho Hon. J. A.. Tolo moved that this clauso he amended by omitting the word "or" before "German," and adrling t.lio words "or Eiiglisli" after the word "German." Tho motion was adopted. SCHOLARSHIP FOR ROMAN CATHOLICS. Notice has been given for to-day of two motions in respect of tho bequest of tholato Mr.. O'Sullivan, of Pleasant Point, for a scholarship for Roman Catholic medical students. Dr. Filclustt has given. notice to move:— "That' the late 'Mr. O'Sullivan's bequest of a scholarship fund for medical stadents of the class named bo accepted with thanks, and tho hope that it may he tho forerunner of many benefactions from public-spirited citizens for the advancement of sound learning. (2) "That in every case where, as hero, the University receives a henofac- .• tion which is not open to students gen- , orally, but is confined to a specified .' class, the money bo kept distinct from the University funds, and for that purpose bo placed in the hands of tho Public Trustee," ' The Chancellor has given notice to move: (l).."That the Senate expresses its - gratification for the generous , benefaction .which. Mr. O'Sullivan has bequeathed 'for oducational purposes. ; , (2) "That it would he. contrary to precedent, and not in accordance with tho spirit or intontion of our University constitution, as explained in its Act and charters, for tho University to administer such a trust. ...(3) "That the trust should, in tho • opinion of tho Senate, he transferred to the Public Trustee to administer. (4) "That so far as examiners are concerned tho University would be glad to assist the Public Trustee in administer- , ing the trust." OTHER SWATTERS. y Resolutions of condolence, prepared'by the Obituary Committee, in respect of the deaths of Sir James Hector, tho Rov. J. O. Andrew, Mr. W. D. Milne, and Dr. Routh, of Cambridge, wero adopted by the Sonate. Tho report of tho Authors' and Periods Committeo was made, an order of tho day, for to-day. The, motion, of which Prbfessor J. M. Brown' gave notice, "That tho degreo of M.A. shall not bo given. for_ puro scionco [subjects," was referred, at' his request, to tho Scionco Committee. . Professor F; D. Brown,''of Auckland, who is visiting Europe'and America, was granted leave of absence from this session of the Senate. Mr. Hogbon is to move to-day that elementary agriculture shall be added to tho scionce subjects for matriculation. Professor Salmond has given notice of a motion' in regard to the refusal of the Privy Council to grant tho University new, degrees. Tho Senate will rcsume at 10 a.m. to-day.