HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Press, Volume XXXVII, Issue 5218, 26 May 1882, Page 3

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

I TH-_a_>A_ , > May 25. % the House met at 2 30. _ fFIMT B_A_lsfSa. I _he following consolidation Bills were int w'Sed by message from the Governor and I 3 » fi" 6 time:-Customs Laws and I Duties Consolidation. | HA-nDCO-TIHO _»___o_r__-8. f< In wpiy to M* Lsvestam, V _hs Hon. Mr BBTOasaid that the ease | f the police handonfiing unresisting citizens _ -Boreh-nded for a breach of the Gaming and % Act Wftl thftt ot c hin3men, and as a ■g L__w&s made at the time the handcufi-ng 9 STre.orted to for the purpose of securing * _aif identity. In the other case under the _ CUBS &°t li WaS a to * fc ° a * e ' tbe P o^oß f it adviJ-ble to consult the law officers I Cfor- instituting proceedings. f WAIKATB STATIOH.

If ggpljing to Mr Stewart, I j__Hod. Mr Jo__sion Baid the name ef _ w"gi_>ats Junction was changed to Stadholm I tgnftioa for convenience of the trafHa, in I _$i.d-n-e with a general rule, and not at any I 's instigation. It was not intended I ST-Tfl-tto the former name. |; THE EDXJOATIOK ACT. Sjf B-plyiiJg to Mr atswart, sf f-9 Son. Mr Dies said it was not the in|f ___i of Government to introduce any '** tfg_o_re-t o£ fc ho Education Aot this 5 ? BiSZS—TCX LAWS. | - Jfiirioi to Mr Levin, |» fSeSoo- Mr Dick said a joint committee p «_«__ Houses to consider the bankruptcy if __i wauld ba maved for, and the Govern--12 stmt would on receiving thai- _ugg_stionalie 1? to frame an amended Bill. || - GOODS BHE_. §1 Bfplying to Mr Daniel, if The Hon. Mr 3omsßtos said goods sheds If iraali be erected at Waiaroa and Pairfax m_ su_ia-.. Wt B«pJyin_ to *^ r kernel, sL __s Eon Mr Joekstok said that when the af JSib rails w 6l * woni out heavier metal would I! kepUwdoß the Invercargill, Biverton, and If (Hauta- lines. 1J C-__TVA_-0-f 0-* TOBACCO.

■ EeplyaigfeMrTawhia, Tbs Hon. Mr Dick said it was not deemed !9e ___ry to circulate amongst the Maoris a 6__p_lefci_ the Native tongue on the cultiragoa of tobacco. | THB DON-DIN GOBOXBB. Bwlying to Mr Bracken, __ba Hon. Mr Dick said the report of the (gitot&'s inquiry on the death of Jos. Basse!! I £__ been perused, but the Government did sst think the coroner was in any respect -tabibie in the matter. • nißEox s-saj- craM_nrai_A__o_T. Saplyicg to Mr Macandrew, J; _ba Hem- Mr Johestoh said Government X WoaM-tifce proposals duric|; the session for / i_e _„bli.hment of direot steam oommuniI jo&to with Sngland. H VO-TOTEES BOABD. '£ E-aljiGg to Mr Fr-ldwick, I -hi Hob. Mr Bbycb said the VolunteerI __e& had concluded its labors, and the report I would ba presented shortly. | .BWPtsa Aim seameh's aot. I Replying to Mr Hutchison, !__« Hon. Major Atsiksos said a measure li-sding the Snipping and Ssamen's Aot, \§l_ would be introduosd. j.. _-<3BKS__;_ AOT. ' •i - Bej-fitig to Mr Seddon, -,; T_- Het_ Mr Dies: said it was intended to % ' _g-RTa_e_n amendment of the Licensing Act I cflast session in order to render ita operation I _8f»-i--3tive, and smooth difficulties which 1 __l_r_.ii.

BIVEBTO-I Z-88, ieplying to Mr Joyce, "53b Hon. Mr Dio_. said tbe Government j_l sot deem it necessary to make a special k_zj in|o the late fire at the Court-house, Eh_rton, as there was nothing suspicious in t-efih-o._-stan.es.

",l«____f(_ ASD LOTTBBIEB AOT. ' Mr*6-_rw_j_D gave notice of a Bill to • - " r - J__ MoDoHA_x> gave notice of a Bill for 88 repeal of the Gaming and Lotteries Act.

'_ The following Bills ware introduced and co ft m& a first time:—The Pensions Act (Mr nx H Smmski); to amend the Auckland College to 1 «_Gr.ara__ar School Act, 1877 (Mr Peacock); as _ lot the Further and Bettor Protection of Life ,w< p and Property from Loss and Damage by al __. (i_r Levestam) • to amend the Timarn t_ Barks' Beard Act, 1877 (Mr Sutton) j to to h soesd the Timaru High Soho-l Aot, 1878 vi "1 (SfrSettwi) j to the Governor to B 1 lacs Crown Grants for Certain Beserve- tl i Set' Apart for Native Purposes within the tl I ¥_•_»_ Block (Mr T&iaroa) • Gold Duties » % iicStian (Mr Seddon); Bluff Harbor Fore- m 1 ikse Beclamation (Mr Joyce); the Small m 3 Mb Nuisance (Mr Steward). ?] I s~~ssb. i. l M The following motions were put and L «_ad:~ {___. George)— For a returnjshowiog la _dalt stale population of eaoh electoral die- le i_k4, number of electors on rolls, total r« matter who voted in each contest, and le 3 saaber of votes for succesafnl and nnsuo- tt 1 c___t candidates respectively. (Mr Turn- p 1 g ball)—Por a ret-m showing the form and *' § jeymests of interest made fay Treasury, the hi m -saber and amount of value of Government pi i -sbsotuiea held by residents in colony, and g § B-Sree. payable thereon. (Mr Trimble)—A G i rsJnrn showing (1) the name of each licensing as 1 .irtriot in the colony, (2) the number of ol 1 'fettont in each thatconld have voted at the p 1 m „_&.._ for licensing committees, (3) the P ! If anafer af parsons in each who actually J rated, (4) number of ipersons who voted for tl 1 -__i__.-_eof l-janse., (5) number of persons B i v'OO voted against an increase of licenses, 8i f, _ Member of licensed houses in eaoh on the tl I -lit May, 1882, (7) nnmber of houses that tl f| law __s_.es for selling only New Zsaland p S? *hses, $) and cost in each district of carry- o: 1 iii.-e_t Licensing Act, 1881, np to 31at May, 0 i •§ 1883. (__lmv«-tam)—Alist of ali-reweii-s w ra " ia t&« -alony, also the amount of stamp duty n i ps_ dericg the years ending March 1880 and n •£ 1881. (Ifr Hutehigon)—A refcnrn showing « _\s the ast-Qct paid on account of the West tl Jl Cout c__o__t railways, Civil Service, and _ jg loaal isd_s_ies commissions, additional to k Ig tbe' «-_(»_, already furnished, such ad- t ff dtßaa_l aaount to* specify the suma B paid for each o£ these eommi-sions re- _ •J-Btivery, to secnitaries, and for shorthand _ ffip»feg_cdcleria_l work. (Mr Hu-cbis.u) t —A rs__r_ of the average cost of,each of the. ( i pao_-r- in the several gaols of the colony j !**« Ist April, 1881, to the 31st March, t _% ~i (2) ret_i_, of the average earning, t *_**eh prisoner _.r said ppriod,specifying t «• -SOttEt of these ear-ings month by 3 I *asS_i .*ad di-_sguishing between tips 1 J **«>- earned b~ skilled and unskilled labor ] I and setting forth the amount jj * 2?«lhy each particular trade comprised in j 1 •** ie~a. category. (Mr Feldwick),~-A < s__a living a list of gaols in the colony, the > J «=B__ s f visiting justices appointed to each, ; ««-» of. their respective appointment-, and ;i . visits made by each justice to I**S£*o__i which he ht*s jurisdiction during «*'pei-d_ commencing Ist January, 1880, ; the Slat December, 1880, and jsj» la J_nua:y, 1881, to Slst December, 'aiid in ___._ of pla.e_ where prison *•«• ..exist separate from gaola, a special said hulks. (Mr Feldwick)— Asf_Bm -ef all puniahjnenUi inflicted on r?*sr_j_s for priion offences in the Beveral JHm d-ring the year ended 31st Deoember, 3S_L ADJOtrsSHEsr. *?** Mi-__n>_sw moved—" Th-t during the J| J-SSent g-ssion 0 f the He use any business under S BBli » -f the House at half past twelve I *__? • JB « »i ia -i he ad jour-ad -' g without ar c ;';_ *.v-*.- i ■-* - : ■ I 25** hour the ff •■ : : c.T.m •'-•• *■ ■ 1 .vfn 8 * 0 ' WStkOt- -'■ -=*-* -;'" 1 "- .•'• ' I *-a.« •.- lr Speaa -. v> « I SSSPvp- •■ • "-* •■-■*■-•« v i I 6 * to be 1 .1 .' - p "' i --„r : -V "" %»in acec\._; -_ -it- *.. ___: •' ~ 1 1 XmS ****** -'- *■-' -"-"-.pi. i b -"i I &^'3*A-n-_K-OJo_:. t ci •- -_i_* _rg ." 1 *.*"."* p 9 * >: " /:/ •- r<:ir,r , l K ' 1 SS*.SEfeS » n - S-- -da .- s-i.-ti I **«*ra___JßgO J_?_C : -,=i 1 ___- r t^ ai[B, - lr *s- t<-_d?d • _ i -,i :• be a -I * * ? * -- J t-- :.. _.O.i "1 w_fb__,__„% jj**.. '-"hebßisw .1 . nr-R. S 3»to getthaagt »h.--~ik a* *~ * T"' p <-" 1^t 's ;i -he

_-_i_g hears, that object would be frustrated. - After farther debate, Mr MACJ_ro__w accepted the amendment, whioh was agreed to. .'"-■"} - chaxb-ul-t ot aoj-in-Tas*. Major A__n_f_o:_ asked leave to postpone the motion—" That Mr Hurst be appointed Chairman of Committees'* until to-mor-row. Agreed. ADS-ÜBtS TO THB OJTSXB. Sir Geob__ Gbht moved a humble address to the Queen expressive of the great _*_*' fulness of this House at her preservation from the danger to which her Majesty was recently exposed. . -- ' Major Ax-O-BOS- seconded the motion. He explained that in view oi the fact that addressee of this k___ had been forwarded by the population in ail parts of the colony, the Government did not think it neeewanr that the, so to speak, servants of the people should afterwards do what they had already done. j Carried. The message was ordered to ba transmitted by cable. The House adjourned at 5.30. EVENING SITTING. The Houterea-enabled at 7.30. __ODB_BS__r,B__?_Y. '...-■' The adjourned debate on the appointment of a committee to prepare an address in reply was resumed!. Mr Fb-BWicb: blamed the Government for not having called Parliament together at an earlier date. The result was that a period of about nine months wonld elapse before they had an opportunity for discussing the finances of the oountry, That was a large proportion of their term of office, now that triennial Parliaments were the role; Mr W. GB-aar said that he had been returned _n an .entirely independent footing. He had been nnkitsntionaUy made to appear in the Oppos'ti.n. When he consented to attend the Opposition caucus he was die* ' tinc-ly given to understand be waa not comtaittinc himself one way or another, and it was on that understanding he attended thatj 3 meeting. He wished it now to le underlj | stood that he still reserved to himielf .h& | right of exercising ah independent judgments on all matters whioh might come forwardfil He was disappointed with the speeoh. Thetis ought to have'been a bold statement of politfi '' instead of some small proposals. In nw' calling Parliament together at an earli|R ■' date they brought themselves undijr the censure of the House. He has no sympathy with those who asserted that th* Native difficulty was brought about for _bj| purpose of standing right with the country,! but still he thought they held that theft Native difficulty of November last was am favorable opportunity for dissolving Parlia-ifi ment Having done so at their own will, it { a was their bounden duty to call the Parlia- | ment together long before they did. Had the }, House been called together at an earlier date, | arrangements for leasing the Otago runs could k have been made. He denounced the conduct § of Government in connection with these runs, 1 as tending to threw the lands into the hands | of the squatters, and not, as diotated by tbel | Colonial Secretary in his addreas to his eon*' 1 stituents, getting them thrown open for settle-j ment on a broad basis. He contrasted the* efforts made for the sale of land a. Sotorual: with their mode adopted for leasing the Otago] suns. The one was largely advertised, both* by pamphlet and otherwise, whereas the onlyg publicity given to the Otago runs was advertisement in the newspapers for only w * jooinpiratrfely veryshort time. In that respect alone he held the Government was highly! censurable. He criticised the Land Aot, an« argued that it imposed conditions whicj| pre vested men of small means from oompeKJ ing for these runs. He argued that no pre* eruptiveright should have been given, and bw blamed the Government, for not calling ths House together in time to have necessary* alterations made, or. only letting them fof one or two years. So anxious was Otago oi£ that subject that a meeting of members wati called, at whioh resolutions were pastedj asking that Parliament should be convenes for that purpose, and if it waa inconvenient %e\ call Parliament together _t that time, thes th-y-atked that one or two years should b« the term of lease, so as to give time for neceaj sary amendments to be effected. He imputed no —tana motives to the tion with this matter as being a serious error] of judgment. He had alluded t_ the eonl sUtution of the Government. , There w_e| Borne foroa iv the contention tha. the P*e> mier ought to have a seat in that House. _&wi looked upon the existing state of thing* as a violation of representative government? .whioh they should not overlook. They haog blbo to keep in mind that the Premier afc the last election but one presented himself for eleotion and was rejeoted. , That was af. view of the matter they should not overlook.; , Had he not been rejected by a constituency 1 the matter would not have presented itself inf the same light as it was. He regarded it as | , a blow at representative government. The 4 manifesto whioh was issued by the Govern-g ment to the local governing bodies he looked! upon ss an offence against their representative! institutions. He argued that ths Minister off Lands must have been in harmony with the J > lata Premier when fie scouted the idea Of| leasing the lands, otherwise it was his duty tog resign. In that way he argued that this] leasehold proposal must have been an idea of | recent date. He heartily agreed with the? propo_ition,_.but still he felt called upon to] afk tha Minister for Lands to state frankly . ', how and when he became a convert to this j policy. As far as he understood the Native ; polioy he heartily commended it. If the Government did exceed the law, as had been - said, he believed that suoh was the exigencies ; of the case, that the House would be quite I prepared to give them the indemnity pro* i posed. Mr HuaSTHOtrBB dissented altogether from ' the leasehold proposals, as he understood it. i However, it was only a limited quantity of , agricultural land that was to be placed under. > the oration of this polioy, and such being ; the case, he felt in a manner reconciled to the I propoßaL The exception taken to the Premier • on account of his haying been by a , certain constituency, wee frivolous and i wounding. It was a well known fact that ? men were not always elected for their own I merits. If the Prime Minister ofEngland t was to contest his seat, he quite believed 6 that he would defeat him. Why was that ? I It was simply becaase he was personally . known. Then again the Premier in the con* • test when he was defeated was not pitted i against the individual. Hewas pitted against • one of the moat complete orgamsations that i had ever existed in the colony. He thought > the speeoh was conspicuous for certain onuse atons. He was surprised at its edence respeotf ing the construction of the Government, and i, the painful causes that had induced Mr Hall a to resign. He tor one rejoiced at MrWh_g taker's promotion to the Prexmewmp. ■ Xias] y year he had introduceda most importanl s measure striking at the law of entaiL *i« »r hoped that it would make its appearance again t jin that chamber. Now was the time tostnw nJ at tbe root of tbe evO. Alluding to the A ' question of local lelf-gevernmenthe said wha] te was wanted was the introduction of a metho. h, for making roads and bridges without lm d -posing taxation. In other words what waj ;o wanted was some means by whioh the Go iff vernment would find money, and leave th( 0, local bodies to spend it j money was what wai id wanted, and they ail knew the diffi' ir, cnlty there was in finding * that. Hi >D objected to any further loan being contracted it Let them see whether or not their prosperity — was permanent before they plunged furthe 3n into debt. It was all very good for place al like Dunedin to talk about a further loan *• They got tho benefit of the money. They hai the Otago Central line and : their harbo schemes to promote It was very differer he with the remote distriots, suoh as the one h p» represented. They got no benefit from th v_ lban.. In truth their lands were muoh moi ~, v_i-.hie ten years ago than now. He aske '■<'~ ..in- .o consider these po__toears.mly. v * "gnauß congratulated tiie Oovernmei ! v • ?>r " themcr-a-edprbsperity, which he attr :"■. ._ - 0 the use of liberal measures takenb '*'.■"".-'_ allay the commermal panic. He di 1 . -". ■ I in the leasehold bafci . - ! . ti'W he recognised the importance < " V r --- vbg auriferous lands for mining enta ." ' — ~-Z He was favorable to the l->anpropo-i " * ! _t__fethepropo-al would not bed -. \ -__-_.. "it was of the graatot impertan r i .hat tieir railway works should bt.«Jampl_te i" » Ha o tended that the obj-cton taken to V -'_, not being in the House was m ex« :;- ! fi«V-adt_ate. __E__b_ndando&-r-olon« ' I s <.„ :ar course was often pnrtned. He al .J--, in its applusaa, :*,- i . ueo^-atiohtotfelocal bod^s. **' " : h- ir__c scouted tfte idea of h» eolleag .T_ ! Hr^r_eneon__.nmgan^e^entm«c^ "tS-JJ^fe- T course H;h-d pawned ia Ha*i

mitten. Alluding to-4he ftpplication made foif mformation local bodies, he asserted; that if they had not pursued that course they would have been 'Chargeable with having neglected to ta__ advioeln their proceeding from the beat available sources. Tnafr wou9 have been the complaint made by the veJE men who now complained against them to_ having taken that advice. He did not thirif the leasing of land would be a sucoeei. fiJ commended the Native policy. Although 9 did not appear to have been within the foqß corners of tbe law, still he contended tha* tbe end justified the means. It waa amis! take that no reference was made to tM retirement of Mr HalL Tbe seeming profit oa the working of the railway lines was the reanM of a very questionable policy. The rolling stoffi wag in anything but a creditable state. WaJ|j gone were short, to tbe detriment of the gra» and other traffic. He contended th'- tnffl necessity for a commissioner to inquire inta the working of the railways was very nr£enjj| The lines were not managed by the GoTorng ment, but by the ofii-ial heads of the deparn ment. He advocated tbe decentralisation of tb* railway system, asserting that the aimplem thing had to be referred to Wellington rhat wanted altering as speedily as poiaiblKj rhe time had arrived when a Mi -ister an Railways and another for Public or *§B mould be appointed. He blamed the Goveriff ment for not 'filling up the vacant portfolio! _c saw no objection to the Premier being irs he Upper Home, but he objeoted to th* appointment of a second member of thfl Jovernment having a seat in that HouscM Sis position was an anomalous one, and h9 -ithed to express his diisent from the arS angement. « Mr J. 0. B-OW-T epoke at some length ha >p position to Government propoiali. M The motion for appointment of the co '_f nittee was then put and carried on trafe oicea. M The Address was then read and adopted. M Oh the motion of Mr P_aooo_: i£''ws!l tgreed that the Speaker, accompanied b'm nemberc, present the Address. _t AD.OUaH-CENT. '* At- 19. 9.X D—l tli_ Rnna- olliin mcui 1