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No 10—Question proposed—That Members of the House of Representatives, residing in Auckland be paid ten shillings per diem, and Members residing at a distance of five miles from the towp. be paid 155., to cover all expenses incurred by them as members of the Legislature.—(Mr. H ahefi eld.) Amendment proposed—That all the words of Mr. Wakefield's motion be omitted with a view to insert the following : That no member of the House of Representatives resident in Auckland be paid anything ; but all members residing within twenty miles of th; House of Assembly, who have been obliged to leave their homes in order to attend the Legislature, be paid at the rate of ten shillings per diem to cover their expenses. —(Major Greenwood.) Question put —That the words proposed to be omitted stand part of the question. Committee divided. Ayes—7. Noes—l 4. Messrs. Fitzgerald Messrs. Forsaith Gray Ludlam Wakefield Crompton E. J. Wakefield Picard Travers Gledhill Revans Taylor King (teller). Rhodes Brown Carleton Mackay Featherston O'Brien Sewell Greenwood (teller). Whereupon amendment put and carried. No. 11 —Motion made and question put—That the aggregate sum allowed for the expenses of Members, of the House of Representatives, shall not exceed £2,500, out of which in the first instance the actual travelling expenses of Members shall be paid, and the residue shall be apportioned according to the scale fixed by the Resolutions of the Committee. — (J/r. Jewell.) Committee divided. Ayes—7. Noes—ll. Messrs. Featherston Messrs. King Revans Travers Rhodes Brown Fitzgerald Crompton Forsaith Gray O'Brien Picard Sewell (teller.) Porter Wakefield Gledhill E. J. Wakefield Mackay (teller.) No. 12—Question proposed—That the Expenses of the Members of the Legislative Council shall be provided for at the same rate as the Members of this House.—{Mr. Sewell.) Amendment proposed —To leave out all the words of Mr. Sewell's motion, with a view to insert the following:— That it is inexpedient to fill up the blank left for the expenses of of Members of the Legislative Council, because the distinction of performing their duties at their own expense is one which rightly belongs to the Members of a Legislative Body not elected by the people for their service, but intended to occupy a position and perform functions in the Legislature, which require that its Members should be independent both of Executive influence and pecuniary obligations to the people, a double independence, whereof an essential condition is, that the persons in question should have sufficient private property to render the payment of their expenses as Members of the Legislature, a matter of no importance to them, whilst at the same time it is desirable, with a view to the people's estimation of them, that the important duties which the Constitntion assigns to them as one of the co-ordinate branches of Legislature, should be performed gratuitously.—(J/r. Wakefield.)