MEETING OF CHIEFS AT PAKOWHAI.

Wananga, Volume 3, Issue 21, 6 July 1876, Page 262

MEETING OF CHIEFS AT PAKOWHAI.

CONTINUED.-Part 3.]

Saturday, June 3, 1876. Hataraka of Ngatiawa, of Whakatane, said: I will read two petitions from my people in the presence of the Chairman and this meeting, and I will leave it with this meetinrto give offset to the prayer of thoae petitions which I will now read, and deposit in the custody of the Chairman, Wi Pbbs said: I propose that those who address this meeting should apeak to the point, or matter contained in the flret subject laid before thiameeting, andjo on, speaking to eaoh snbject oonaecatively as they were read by the Cbalqnaa, and- ao continue till all the sabiects have been spoton about, in order that we may not lose time, tiul jpMVtn and have an' understanding on each subject : If this meeting pass your proposal, we Waaka, of Ngatitaliupo, said: Hearken, Mr. CMfman.and this meeting. L«t all sales of land cease In and let the Parliament of New w Act to this mSf i thl ZtfleitfeajMtftvM* thji PjtfHeinont (Konse of Beprosent*tiv*e),l» toa*wbecea»*l tothatu* the European members, in the same ratio aa tbplfeori population is to the*Enrowhich took office jWt® be pit but -prirer, . whtrall the laws Uibepi—d TBom ar* all my f wHf tednco it to writing, amLgwfe it .to the Chairman of I have iuot anypetition to I W a> nntaTinytliißf outside of the subjects lliflftiiffrrf t 1 '* because those gpod, and after they h§ve been diecuaeed, should all be laid before the House,

ofß%presentati vet, and testtfcemtfeere. Antf to **+ S?P?rSiSIM ?* Ck ' bdt them all, andleave themta the Parliament to approve of orotl>«rvris«>. But see. whit the House of Representatives say in regpect to these sabjects which we ask to be matters for the Assembly to put into law. I do not; see anything thai would prevent these subjects being dotli ed inlaw, as tliey are subjects of immense moment to n«~ and by belne sent to th?Hoose of Representatives, wiU, test the feeing of the Bouse in respect to our, race, and by -sending them direct to the House, we Alkali save our Maori member much troobU and vexation. In .respect the sale of land «• l J ot tD iavts a dearsigki into this matteiyar thedasi reiamoetinstancee originates from the Maori to sell Jvistknd, and-neft the Euaabeaa. Although, I say, no doubt there is a desire on the pari of the European to bny, yet do not'let us uy the .wish!? altogether on the part of the Europe**. I We WtLn in words what I have to «ay before this meeting, and have not put:th«n into writing, and cannot lay any document before the Chairman. v Kabaitia»a,Takaiioana said: 1 rise toseoond the proposals of two of tbo chiefs who have addressed this meeting on the sixth subject now before this loeetine. and I agree to that subject, the sixth, being laid before the Parliament, as I know the subject matter of that proposal will soon become a fact, and if we do not consent to the proposals contained in that subject sixth, eril wflJ soon follow to u«, but if this meeting pass that resolatJori good will eoon follow to our people. TUere are two individual powers, one i« Mr. Aot Wronr, and.the other la Mr. Act Justly each of these two individuals are powerful, and if Mr. Act Wrong 1 s fostered by us, we as tribes, and as a people, and individually, shall suffer all over the Islands of New Zealand. But-the best line of policy for us "to act on is the majority of the people mustagree to sell, also to put the land through the Native Lands Court, then, and not till then, can it be correct, _and,tben we can feel in power in our hands to carry into- effect the wish not to .selTland. The law saya that the Native Lands Court is an assistant for us to settle all disputes, and by it our work should be correct. In respect to the sale of land in districts wtore laud has not as yet been sold (or blocks of land, for which negotiations has not commenced, or money paid on account) for such, it shallnot be correct to negotiate or sell. But these out thoughts on this sdbject may be laid before the Parliament, and if the Parliament rejects them it will be for them to take such action, as they will no doubt, be led in any action they take by the guidance of the law. 1 shall not at present speak on the other subjects given for this meeting tob-discuss. My friend has said he agrees with them all, he may be right. Makumabu said : May I speak on any matter which is not mentioned in the petition sent by my tribe to the Chairman of this meeting. ChaibmaH : Yes, yon can, as you know all the subjects, which your tribe authorised you to bring before this meeting. Makumabu : I say that the first subject which was given to be discussed by this meeting should be se'fit to our Queen only.. It should not* be submittedto the, New Zealand Parliament, ncr should "it be'givon to the member for the Eastern MaorTpistrict to,, be laid by him before the New Zealand Parliament, but sent only to Her Majesty the Qdeen. But the ninth subject" should--he laid before the New Zealand Parlinm?g>t onlyrbut th*eleve<4ifc*qttect took my tribe by sarpri.se, hence they said'thai thai subject should not be proposed'to becomelavr. T have proposed to this meeting that'it.shoaftf ~be submitted to Parliament, and not to aot array tribe propose, but to send, the eleventh proposition t& Parliament. I agree, that we should have a member in the Parliament of New-Zealand, and:tbatwe should have a memberthere everr session, of th&t House, I also agree to the pmpoaafctbat tne people of these Islands

should beconteone. -ag br lack wti**.m' to«iifwmegood for the people, even mW •e£iog for the *ood of all the &3. * re aow KAUAmANA l r AKA3fOAKA swd : I Would a*ain nd.tr...,. this meet,ng; I forgot to speak on a small point i!™ bad the good of all the people of these fianda L desire. I have not been working for myself only T hSZ the power to act for my own body, but I S for2! BtTOn * to carry the subtest which -this • meeting m now investigating/ do not*raw gMd. Bot ;t ltepcopJ« <£.(, to wpßfftS refm n frog, furtbcractlon, bat if th. for those things by which they may derive liiat good a neonla requires; I never Wke t£e Native trtCSi FSSa « T"EE 8 51? V? th ® P^powlsof the European, I bavo been misled by the EofoMtn/ ■ ' Hoani-Tokotoko,.of Che Waiobiki, said: Ther* .« three things which I condemn, surveying the NiHth Court, and ftale of land, from these have onm« *Hevil has risen on the people. Let these thrrm thfogsoeaae tohe,. Some of the land which belonged to tri Ji e by the Native LandsCottrt to another trips. Let these three things osase. Hobi, of Uawa, said : I will speak of the eleventh sub3SL ® Ter on t*»at matter, and ever since '"Missionaries™ hive fulfilled this, and all the points contained in that poin^" 1 Hence I have not anything to say on this . Habonqa, °fTurango, said : I have been sent here y oT sala T® van (did not instroct ms as to what I should sayto this moating), and Te WhaAsmpoko is anfttber of my ancestors who sent me here, who is also childless (did not rive «y to me). Hence, the subjects propose# for j^S.°??u ratl L n 2 f meeting are all agreed to by me, and that they be forwarded to the New Zealand Parliament. Pactuni, of Taupo, said: I agree to what Hikawera has said in respect to the sale of land, that it should cease, and , Native Lands. Court should oeaae to act. And that the purchase of land should oeaae in our as I and my tribes have suffered by the sale, and nassinr of lud throng tt. Native Lad. Court, 'l.grST£itt the thought of Karaitiana, that we should agree to that subject about which we are now speaking. But I am not quite clear that what he says is the best line to be followed by us. Paaamena. of Omahu, said: I agree to the proposal of Karaitiana, that this meeting should consent to what he has said. I say yes, and that il. should be sent to Parlia ment, so that it; may be passed Into law by the new Parliament. I say that the meeting which shaH be held next Siar, should be held at Omahu, in the Kahukuranul ouse. Maaka, ofNgafaapa, said: Let a Maori meeting becun-Pn-vinc, rt V ett-h Maori district of these Islands, to speak over matters, and select certain points for discussion, .and I say that the plaoe of.meeting for this Corninmee be at my place at J ** rß *r?V th the that we, the people ..ft 8 * 8 IriMids, should be one, as by our union our work wul be right, and we sliall gain power to act. Let there b# twelve members for tkese Islands, a* Hikawera l.a* psopoasd. Let -the sale of land, and the Native Lands yfltot eeeee m all our districts. I agree to send a petition to Hajssty the Queen of -England.. Any ill act of the European to the Maori should be investigated by a Com-

X^SSS& «kthr idtftliliViEMiJlfiijftn gg^JSSV.?^ r^pfl> : Jbyw *«N*n. tfttflfeifc gMj^ldtadv.. i—ibw, ajMaaatha iour : 09*fe4l* pftNO BMpben lortfea ■n liir-thii ii ): thit we n ibill not obtain. In *Bd»Co«rt, and aale of &&&ASS& Tessas, «it, lie- went toSoglaad, ftto IhumH wudj..'