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Auckland October 22nd/63 My dear McLean, I have only just heard that the Lady Bird leaves almost directly. Yesterday they said she would not go till Saturday. There will be another opportunity on Saturday per Rangitira I will write more fully then. I send you the Waitara papers and the despatch between Grey and Newcastle. The Waitara papers are in my opinion disgraceful to Grey who has played his old game in the old style. If you like to send me anything you want made public - the Waitara question I will undertake to do it, On my own part I think the abandonment of Waitara only excusable as a matter of policy and even tho it is difficult to defend it. Domett comes out of it pretty well I think - Bell is weak as ever and and Grey is unprincipled and vicious. Yesterday the Governors address was replied to. You will find both the Address and the Reply in the Papers. The address is the most able one I have ever seen presented to a House of Assembly. The reply will not I think be received without amendment - Bobby Graham moved the reply in a speech which altho not particularly impressive as reported is not to be recognized as the one delivered. It was the most wretched failure ever attempted. Munro told him he must alter the wording and put it in the Infinitive mood - poor Bobby's look of absolute despair and total darkness as to such things as moods or grammar in general was splendid. Monro made the alteration himself to Bobby's greatrelief. Domett pushed me hard to second the Address telling me I must speak to it. I refused altho' he tried me at the last minute again saying that they were without any one whose antecedentswd. enable them to do it properly. I got him to ask old Barry Rhodes who did it - simply seconded it - without reference to consecration. I have not been able yet to take any action in matters of interest to us but will do so without delay. You will hear from me again by Rangtira. Excuse my haste I write to save the Mail. Let me have anything you want said on Waitara question by the steam on the 28th. The debate is adjourned until her arrival. In great haste, Yours always, J. D. Ormond
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Bibliographic details

4 pages written 22 Oct 1863 by John Davies Ormond in Auckland Region to Sir Donald McLean, Inward letters - J D Ormond

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Key Value
Document date 22 October 1863
Document MCLEAN-1022199
Document title 4 pages written 22 Oct 1863 by John Davies Ormond in Auckland Region to Sir Donald McLean
Document type MANUSCRIPT
Attribution ATL
Author 39729/Ormond, John Davies, 1831?-1917
Collection McLean Papers
Date 1863-10-22
Decade 1860s
Destination Unknown
Englishorigin ATL
Entityid 30
Format Full Text
Generictitle 4 pages written 22 Oct 1863 by John Davies Ormond in Auckland Region to Sir Donald McLean
Iwihapu Unknown
Language English
Name 39729/Ormond, John Davies, 1831?-1917
Origin 66181/Auckland Region
Place 66181/Auckland Region
Recipient 4809/McLean, Donald (Sir), 1820-1877
Section Manuscripts
Series Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Sortorder 0003-0136
Subarea Manuscripts and Archives Collection
Tapuhigroupref MS-Group-1551
Tapuhiitemcount 89
Tapuhiitemcount 2 14501
Tapuhiitemcount 3 30238
Tapuhiitemdescription 85 letters written from Epraima, Auckland, Wallingford & Napier, 1857-1865. Includes a few draft letters from McLean to Ormond.
Tapuhiitemgenre 3 230058/Personal records Reports
Tapuhiitemname 39729/Ormond, John Davies, 1831?-1917
Tapuhiitemname 3 4809/McLean, Donald (Sir), 1820-1877
Tapuhiitemref MS-Papers-0032-0481
Tapuhiitemref 2 Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Tapuhiitemref 3 MS-Group-1551
Tapuhiitemsubjects 3 1446/New Zealand Wars, 1860-1872
Tapuhiitemtitle Inward letters - J D Ormond
Tapuhiitemtitle 2 Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Tapuhiitemtitle 3 McLean Papers
Tapuhireelref MS-COPY-MICRO-0535-076
Teiref ms-1328-107
Year 1863

4 pages written 22 Oct 1863 by John Davies Ormond in Auckland Region to Sir Donald McLean Inward letters - J D Ormond

4 pages written 22 Oct 1863 by John Davies Ormond in Auckland Region to Sir Donald McLean Inward letters - J D Ormond

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