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Napier May 17th. 1876. My dear McLean, The Cross has been detained so I add this to what I wrote yesterday. This morning I received a reply from Ferris - he cannot come here, he says his engagements at Poverty Bay could not be completed in less than three months and what we want is some one new. I was having a talk with Locke this morning and see no reason why he should not go about more among the Natives. He agrees that in their altered frame of mind he may be able to do good by going round the district occasionally. I think therefore we will wait and see how this works. I shall of course be going to Wellington Next Month and a new man without guidance might do more harm than good. Hamlin is working very well just now - his heart is thoroughly in the work. What is against him is that the Natives are constantly told that he was one of the men who got their land for them. I hear this morning that the stopping Locke from going to Te Aute has completely upset Russell and Sheehan's plans that they are trying hard to get the Natives to come to Napier to execute the Deeds but that a large number of Natives now make excuses and wont come. When Locke's note saying he had orders not to go to Te Aute reached Russell, he went nearly mad, cursed and swore fearfully. Scully was present and says it was quite a sight. Last night I received a telegram from Vogel about Bell. Vogel says all your Colleagues declare they never led Bell to expect a seat in the L. C. personally Vogel says he would rather like to see Bell in but that the Govt. has decided generally not to call anyone. I have written Vogel telling him that I only told you what Bell had written me. Vogel wished me to ascertain which Minister had made the promise, but I have told him there is no use in doing that - if it is not intended to call Bell then the less said the better. I have however told Vogel I think it would be a nice act on his part, and that of the Govt. to give Bell a Seat. An exception might fairly be made in the case of a man like Bell, an ex-speaker and one of such long standing as a public man. I hope Vogel will do it. Vogel wired me today for my opinion as to the appointing fresh Maori Ministers and adding to the European Ministers. I have told him that I am quite sure public opinion is against it, but that he will have no difficulty in getting the House to agree to additional European Ministers, as it is manifest that after abolition the work will be enormously increased. I see from your telegram of this morning that Bartings is to be asked to propose the reply to the Address. I knew nothing of him but should have preferred either of the people I named to you. As to Mr. Russell seconding I dont think he will be at Wellington for the opening. He is arranging to go to England from Wellington at the close of the Session and told me lately that he could not be present at the opening. Cox will do well if he will do it. Yours always J.D. Ormond.
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3 pages written 17 May 1876 by John Davies Ormond in Napier City to Sir Donald McLean, Inward letters - J D Ormond

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Key Value
Document date 17 May 1876
Document MCLEAN-1008390
Document title 3 pages written 17 May 1876 by John Davies Ormond in Napier City to Sir Donald McLean
Document type MANUSCRIPT
Attribution ATL
Author 39729/Ormond, John Davies, 1831?-1917
Collection McLean Papers
Date 1876-05-17
Decade 1870s
Destination Unknown
Englishorigin ATL
Entityid 48
Format Full Text
Generictitle 3 pages written 17 May 1876 by John Davies Ormond in Napier City to Sir Donald McLean
Iwihapu Unknown
Language English
Name 39729/Ormond, John Davies, 1831?-1917
Origin 71187/Napier City
Place 71187/Napier City
Recipient 4809/McLean, Donald (Sir), 1820-1877
Section Manuscripts
Series Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Sortorder 0006-0198
Subarea Manuscripts and Archives Collection
Tapuhigroupref MS-Group-1551
Tapuhiitemcount 119
Tapuhiitemcount 2 14501
Tapuhiitemcount 3 30238
Tapuhiitemdescription 112 letters written from Wairoa, Wellington, Napier, 1873-1876. Includes letter from D M Luckie to Ormond, Nov 1875; Ormond to Fox, Mar 1876; Carlyon to Ormond.
Tapuhiitemgenre 3 230058/Personal records Reports
Tapuhiitemname 16423/Fox, William (Rt Hon Sir), 1812?-1893
Tapuhiitemname 3 4809/McLean, Donald (Sir), 1820-1877
Tapuhiitemref MS-Papers-0032-0486
Tapuhiitemref 2 Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Tapuhiitemref 3 MS-Group-1551
Tapuhiitemsubjects 3 1446/New Zealand Wars, 1860-1872
Tapuhiitemtitle Inward letters - J D Ormond
Tapuhiitemtitle 2 Series 1 Inward letters (English)
Tapuhiitemtitle 3 McLean Papers
Tapuhireelref MS-COPY-MICRO-0535-077
Teiref ms-1352-190
Year 1876

3 pages written 17 May 1876 by John Davies Ormond in Napier City to Sir Donald McLean Inward letters - J D Ormond

3 pages written 17 May 1876 by John Davies Ormond in Napier City to Sir Donald McLean Inward letters - J D Ormond

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