The Pakeha became angry at my words and that was the end of it. I went to Kaikokirikiri, and then on to the Maori at Te Pokohiwi. And I said, 'Well, if you will talk to me that would be good. I left my pigs on my land.' And he said, 'Sir, you know that my hatchet [will come down on] any of your pigs straying onto my land.' I said, 'Yes, but this is the balance, that you have the open country and we have the forest. And your cows graze on our parts.' He then said, 'Yes, but Korou[?] drove them here.' And I said, 'He couldn't manage to drive them over all the land', and 'Pay for one of my pigs.' He said, 'I never saw [anything] on the morning the pigs which attacked were shot.' So that was the end of it. I think he was right, for those of us who saw that [said] they did not attack that morning. The names of those people were Tamati and Hoera. But later it was seen that he was [or, 'they were'] wrong.