diminutive and unchiefly race of people and from all appearances form a concentration of the most troubelsome natives on the river - there is an idea amongst them that as the Govr. prevents powder and shot they may retain their timber and only dispose of the land. I replied that the land as parent of the trees of the forest could not part with the children and that the cold from Tongariro is felt by Europeans and requires wood for them as well as the natives that this however was the last law payment and talk that Mr. Symonds was here by the instructions of Govt. to settle the long pending question and hoped they would be all one in encouraging and behaving kindly to their European friends. Te Kuhi spoke in favour of te Pakehas and Te Mumu and many others to the same effect. Te Tahana Turoas son said that the Pakehas must have the rakau as well as the land. Maketu Pakaro