HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

Timaru Herald, Volume LVII, Issue 6068, 29 September 1894, Page 4

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

The following is the oonolusion of Thursday night's report : — Sir B Stout's new clause was thrown out on the voices. » The Bill was then reported with amendment*, which were ordered to be considered at next sitting, j Progress was reported on the Foreign Insurance Companies Deposit Bill. LATE SITTINGS. On the motion for adjournment of the House at 245 a.m. Mr Buohanan entered a protest against late sittings. The Government were pushing members beyond endurance altogether, and the time would come when the country would speak to the House on this question with no uncertain sound. Mr Hall said they ought to have got away m reasonable time, but; for hon members opposite, whose attitude wbb very like that of obstruction. - Mr Alien said there was no obstruction under the new Standing Orders. Measures were fairly and reasonably debated, and any delay arose through unwise proceedings of those m charge of Bills. Stveral other members also spoke. The Premier laid the Government had not departed from any pledges m regard to short sittings, and he was well pleased with the day's work. It would be impossible to have any fixed time for adjournment of the House at nigbt. Members should esohew personalties and not repeat eaoh other's arguments so muoh. The Government must see the business of the country gone on with. The House rose at 3.5 a.m. The House met at 2 80 p.m. ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS. Beplying to questions it was stated that the Government bad not yet considered the report of the Tariff Committee, but unloss some very good cauee were shown they would rot be justified m inourring the expense of despatching a delegate to England to promote and float oompanies ; that the Government hgped to be able to announce the appoint* ments of the president and auditor of the Sank of Hew Zealand within n week. QUESTIONS POSTPONED. In the temporary absence of Mr Ward through indisposition all the other questions on the Order Paper with regard to banking affairs were postponed till Tuesday. BUMMOHB XO PBODTTOB A summons was received, oalling upon the Clerk of the House to produoe at Wanganui Supreme Court a certain petition repardiDg the Horowhenua blook, together with tbo evidence taken before the Native Affairs Com* tnittee. The Premier said that Parliament had always jealously guarded its privileges, and he moved that the House refuse leave to tbe Clerk to attend at the Court and produce the papers. The motion was carried by 44 to 12. MOTION FOB ADJOURNMENT. The adjournment of the House was moved by Mr B M Smith, for the purpose of raising the Question of sending a delegate to England m connection with the Taranaki iron industry. The discussion lasted until the dinner adjournment. The House resumed at 7. 80 p.m. NBW ZEALAND COJBOLB HIM. The Consols Bill was reported from Com< mittee. On tbe motion for tbe third reading Sir B Stout entered his protest against its patting, There was ample investment at present for small people m tbo Savings Bank of the colony ; whilst larger people oouid take advantage of tbe ordinary banking systems, - Dr Newman expressed similar views. Mr Button and Mr Buddo objeoted to the principles of the Bill. Captain Buaiell again protested against what he believed to be a most improper and injudicious Bill. It was a measure to sanction borrowing m tbe most expensive manner Mr Earnsltaw and Mr JBuchauai also strongly opposed the Bill. Mr Ward said that oonsols cou'd not possibly be issued bslow par, and tb >fc was the reason why be did not accept »n amend* ment to that effect. The Bill did cot propose to issue stock or debentures, but it plaoed at the disposal of the peoplu aconeil which they oould pu-obase for f eir own particular purposes. Ho contend d that U was placing at the di*p »eal of the people a better system of inve- >n°nt 'Han existed at pre>6nt under tho Post fßca Sivingi Bank. In his opinion the system of cudsolb was a good one, aod tiroo oi: y woul i prove whether or not it would be sucoe-Bfu'. He thought that it would be euco.rafd, anH that was the reason why the Government vitro anxious to give tbo people of the colony another f jrm of investment for their money. Thp mot'on for tbe third read'rg was carried v 31 io 2i, aud ihe Bill pawed. NAiTVB LAND COUBT BILI:. On the motion for the committal of tbe Native Land Court Bill the Premier said that it was fith some diffidenoe that be had aocepted the Portfolio of Native Minister. It had been the desire of the Government to establish friendly relations between the two races, and he was glad to say now that those relations were of the most cordial character. As a result of bis visit to the natives during the last recess ha found that tbe ohief altera> tion required was with respect to the management of their lands. He had also found a great desire among the Uriwera natives for sohools, and he thought that if schools were established m that oountry it would put an end to the Uriwera difficulty. H« referred to the native land question, and explained tbe provisions of the Bill m detail. He had found that there was plenty of land m the East Coast district ready for offer to tbe Government. He thought that the polioy of tbe Bill was the only safe one to pursue with respeot to native lands, and the legislature should say that the only ohaenel through whioh natives should dispose of their land was that of the Govern, ment, so as to stop all dealings with private individuals. Mr Wi Pere thought that part of the Bill rtlatiog to native lands should be postponed. He thought that the natives should get the benefit of the oheap money soheme. Captain Buesell congratulated tbe Premier on the speech he had made on the Bill. It was logioal, and showed that the Premier had a thorough grasp of the subject he was deal. ing with. Ab to the first part of the Bill dealing with Native Land Courts he thiught that it would go through without opposition as it was a great improvement on the other Bill they bad. He should take objeotion, however, to other parts of the Bill and he opposed tbe resumption by the Crown of the preemptire right which he said was a direct violation of the Treaty of Waitangi. Mr Carrpll oomplimented Captain Busiell on his criticism. It must be admitted that tb* existing native land laws were not eatis. faotnry, and it was the honest intention of the Government to do what they thought was right m this respect. He was m favour of the individualisatioa of titles, and said that the committee system was the only tat* isfaotory way of dealing with native lands. He differed from Captain Bussell respecting the preemptive right, and contended that by the Treaty of Waitangi, the sole right to buy rested with the Government. Mr Hone Heke said that Mr Carroll had changed bis views with regard to the preempt i?a right. The ohiefs m all parts cf the i oolony were disappointed with the proposals' of the Premies Sir B Stout approved of the Bill generally, fad thought that it would prove of great

benefit. He believed that all dealings m native lands should be conducted through the Watte Lands Boards, and he would stop all private dealings m native land?. On the motion of Mr Mitohclion the debate wan adjourned till Monday. The House rose at 12 45 a m.