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treatment of Mr. and Mrs. Moss. I considered your characters good and your administration capable and efficient, and characterized by kindness to the inmates. I never saw the Home swarming with vermin. I rarely entered the rooms of the Home. 1 never heard from the inmates any statement as to unkind treatment. I saw the evidence on wliich you were discharged. Rev. Mr. Gillam saw the evidence. The staff, in my opinion, was not sufficient. I know of no adequate or just reason why you should be discharged. Eliza Moss sworn, and examined by Mr. Moss. I was Matron of tlie Costley Home. My appointment was that of assistant. 1 was there about eleven years. I was at the Upper and Lower Refuges for four months before that. My duties at the Home were to attend to the sick, and to control the inmates and staff under my husband's directions. At the commencement my relations with the inmates and the staff were harmonious. I remember a Mrs. Reid who was sent there by the Board. She was in receipt of charitable aid. I was in conflict with her. She was sent to assist me. She was bringing sewing to the Home to be made by the inmates. 1 objected to that. 1 remember Mrs. Crawford being sent there. She was receiving charitable aid. She was sent to relieve the Charitable Aid Board from keeping her. She was sent to assist in the Home, with the exception of the maternity ward. She was there about a year. I objected to you that they were incompetent assistants. I remember a Miss Calvert being engaged by the Board. She was a trained nurse. She was satisfactory. She was with me about seven years. I remember Miss Hames being sent to the Home. She was a trained nurse. She was about two months there. She was satisfactory. She left. I remember Miss Mark coming. I did not get on with her. She went to bed in the afternoon. She did not obey my instructions. She assisted me in the maternity department a little. She was unsuitable. I tried to be friends with her. You also wished to be friends with her. She was very good sometimes and very bad sometimes. She was subject to tits of depression. She imagined things. She came from the asylum. She had been engaged there about ten years. She was quarrelsome sometimes. Her influence on the inmates was very bad. She would quarrel with them and refuse things for them. She was liked by very few inmates. I never refused to allow her to take milk or beef-tea to any patients. On one occasion I asked her not to take milk to the maternity ward. She was giving a baby the wrong milk. 1 had control of the maternity ward subject to Dr. King. The patients were not crawling with vermin. Some of them were brought in with vermin on them. One cannot keep vermin out of the Home altogether. I do not remember any one ever complaining about the vermin in the beds. I had a periodical bed-inspection. The staff was not sufficient. I remember Mrs. Plaice. She was suffering from bed-sores Ido not remember the, doctor ordering her to be poulticed every four hours. If poultices were ordered they were put on at 8 o'clock. 1 often worked amongst sick inmates during the night. I never neglected sick or dying patients. I remember Mrs. Graham. She was an imbecile. I never gave her a pair of boots much too small for her. I never encouraged inmates to be insolent towards Miss Mark. 1 remember Mrs. Helen Campbell. I never helped you to haul her down to the gaol. We never took her to the gaol. I never took her to the gaol by myself. I took her there assisted by Nurse Calvert. She was only in the gaol once. Miss Mark was not there when she was taken to the gaol. She did not come out with two black eyes. She was taken there about 9 p.m. She was making a terrible noise. A deputation of the inmates waited upon you. They wanted to go to sleep. Mounsey was not there. She was brought back to the building about 7 a.m. the next morning. The gardener was not on duty at that time. Mrs. Campbell said she was very sorry. She did not complain of the treatment. She was not dragged to gaol. She went willingly. I remember Gertrude Campbell. She was remonstrated with for coming to the Home drunk. I did not know at the time of her admission she was suffering from epileptic fits. I never knew she was subject to them. She was sent to the refractory-ward for insubordination. She was very abusive to me and to you, and to the inmates. Her conduct towards the men was indelicate. I spoke to her about it. I had complaints about it from the inmates and one of the staff—the cook. Her conduct was violent. You remonstrated with her. No violence was used in taking her to the ward. She threw herself on the ground. She had attention paid to her while in the refractory-ward. Had there been more staff she might have had better attendance. She had books and papers while in the ward. She had no black eyes when she came out. One eye was a little discoloured. Ido not know how it became discoloured. I remember T. Dunn. He was very erratic at times. He used to ask you for work. You never sent him to do hard work or requested him to work or leave the institution. 1 have had trouble with the female members of the staff for drunkenness. Mrs. Gardner, the head laundress, used to get drunk and could not do her work. 1 remember Miss Phillips. She was not friendly to me. From the commencement she wanted to be head. She never complained about the cancer quarters being filthy. The bath-rooms and the cupboards were not filthy. She never complained about their being filthy, or the bedsteads in the maternity ward. If they were filthy she should have done so. I have had to complain about Nurse Phillips's treatment of patients of Mrs. Patterson and Mrs. Albrechter. She put Mrs. Patterson in a bed filled too full of straw, and she fell off. She was injured in falling -hurt her face which was cut. She put some drops in the eye of Mrs. Albrechter. I did not instruct her to do so. The eyes were much swollen in consequence. The attention of the Board was called to that matter by you. The members of the Board were Mr. Jamieson and Mr. Friend, and others. I do not know what came of it. It caused friction between myself and Miss Phillips. I do not consider Nurse Phillips a suitable person. She did not like the work and ignored my authority. I do not remember her complaining to me about the infrequeucy of the baths. She never reported to me that the inmates were swarming with vermin. Some of the inmates refused to take baths. They never complained about not being bathed. I never knew you to act unkindly to any inmate. I remember Kinghorn. You had some trouble with him. He tried to hit you because you refused him leave to go to the cattle-