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Camp Matangaeaea, Feiday, 20™ Maech, 1868. Coll McDonell was recalled, and having been duly sworn, was examined. 97. Lieut-Colonel McDonnell] Do you know Martha, the wife of Matanahira ? —Yes, I do. 98. Do you know anything with reference to an ear-ornament of hers, or to any act of violence committed on the night of the attack at Pokaikai? —I remember that on the night in question a Native woman of the name of Martha was made prisoner. One of the officers took charge of her. A man of tho name of Bezer attempted to pull a greenstone ornament out of her ear, and Captain Newland told him that no one but a coward would attempt to do such a thing, and had him arrested and given in charge to the guard. This man, Bezer, did not belong to the Colonial Forces. He was a private servant in the employ of Dr. Walker, and he was present at the time in attendance upon his master, who was present on duty; and a Government rifle had been given to him, as every man at that time was armed for his own defence. I heard Bezer complain loudly of being put under arrest, urging that he had not taken the ornament from the woman. There was a crowd round her at the time, and I could not see the woman; but the next day I saw her sitting close to one of the tents of the men of the Native Contingent. 99. Do you know whether her car was torn or cut ? —No ; I never heard that it was either cut or torn until this morning.

Mr. C. McDonclZ. 20th March, 1868.

Camp Mataxoaeaea, 20th Maech, 1868. Tukino having been duly sworn was examined. 100. The Chairman. —What is your name, and where do you reside, and to what hapu and tribe do you belong ? —My name is Eruini Tukino. I reside at present at Matangarara, but I formerly resided at Ohangai. I belong to the Tangahoe hapu of the Ngatiruanui tribe, and am a chief. 101. What do you know of the attack upon Pokaikai, in August, 1866 ?—Some time before tho attack on Pokaikai, probably three months before, I took up my abode at Pokaikai. Te Ua came and visited me and my people at Pokaikai, with instructions from the Governor to the effect that fighting should cease ; and Te Ua told us that Mr. Parris counselled the same course. The whole hapu of the Tangahoe agreed that peace should bo made : I mean that every member of the hapu consented that there should be an end of fighting. On the second night of Te Ua's visit Baupena Tahi came to Pokaikai, bringing with him a cartridge, a percussion cap, a bottle of spirits, and a white pocket handkerchief. The people of Pokaikai retained tho handkerchief, and returned the other three articles hj Hamiora Patukohu to Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell. The lad Hamiora was sent in order that he might bring back a reply from the Lieut.-Colonel. He went to Waingongoro and saw Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell. On his return Hamiora said, " there is but one word from the Lieut.-Colonel, that is, ' Send me some potatoes.'" We all agreed to do so. The following morning a woman came from Manawapou, from the British camp. She was sent by Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell, and her name was Bangiamohia. 1 asked her why she had come to Pokaikai? She said, " the Lieut.-Colonel wishes Tito to go to him at Manawapou." Tito declined going. I then asked her to pay toll. The toll was fourpence, and as she had not fourpence she gave me two shillings. She then returned to Manawapou, and the lad Hamiora accompanied her. The toll was for crossing the boundary of the sacred (tapu) district. Our Hauhau religion had caused this toll to be enforced for crossing the boundary. Bangiamohia was related to us, but as she had joined tho English people we demanded toll from her. Tho lad Hamiora returned from Manawapou with a letter from Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell to me to the effect that when he returned from Patea he intended to visit Otapawa to see me and my people. With the letter was a distinguishing badge, viz., a red scarf. We took no further thought, because we were living in peace, and had sent Natanahira northwards to carry to Mr. Parris our assent to the proposal of the Governor, that we should live in peace. In the night, about midnight, Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell attacked Pokaikai. On hearing the rush of the men I came out of my whare and I saw the men fire at a child who was the opposite side of a low fence. The child ran away to another part of the village, and I called out to my people not to fire upon Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell's men. I then ran away naked as I was. Some were taken prisoners, others got away, and some where killed. Three persons were killed, my uncle was one of them. He was killed at the bottom of the descent near the bush by a bullet, while running away. His name was Haira. 102. Mr. Commissioner Graham.] Did you see any of the villagers fire upon the attacking force?— Not a shot was fired by any of the villagers. The guns had been laid aside. 103. After Te Ua's arrival did your hapu of Tangahoe lay any ambush for murdering tho British Forces ?—No. 104. Did your hapu of Tangahoe lay any ambush within one month previous to the attack upon Pokaikai ? —We ceased to lay ambuscades after Otapawa was taken by General Chute. 105. Lieut.-Colonel McDonnell.] What was your object in bringing your firelock with you when you were sent for to give evidence before the Commission? —I brought it to show that from the time of our retreat from Otapawa that firelock has been laid aside by me and not used. 106. Do you recollect a Military Train Trooper being killed by a party of Hauhaus near tho Tangahoe Stream ? —I killed him, before General Chute's campaign. 107. What weapons did you get from this trooper after he was killed ? —I got two breech-loading rifie carbines, a sword, a saddle, one cartouch box full of ammunition. There were six of us lying in ambuscade when we killed that trooper. 108. Were any of tho above articles retaken by us at the attack upon Pokaikai ? —One carbine and the cartouch box were retaken.

Tukino. 20th March, 1863.

Came Matangaeaea, Feiday, 20th Maech, 1868. Walter Edward Gudgeon, having been duly sworn, was examined. 109. The Chairman?] What is your name and profession ? —Walter Edward Gudgeon ; I was a

Mr. W. E. Gudgeon. 20th March 1868.