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Poverty Bay Herald, Volume LX, Issue 18263, 5 December 1933, Page 8

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BANKRUPT’S LOSSES GA MBLINO TRANS ACT! ONS EXAMINATION ADJOURNED In order I hat the bankrupt-, might have .an opportunity of furnishing additional information as In gambling transactions lo which he had referred, yesterday afternoon’s meeting of creditors in the (bankrupt estate of Thomas Goodall, of Gisborne, freezing worker, was adjourned until next week. The ‘bankrupt, who was recently adjudged bankrupt on the -petition of several creditors in respect of one debt, admitted in •evidence that in three nights he had spent nearly £409 in two-up “schools,” and at the conclusion of the examination yesterday the Official Assignee, Mr J. N. Nobler, agreed with Mr L. T. Burnard, counsel for the petitioning creditors, that it was desirable that Goodall should supply further information in reference to ins gambling transactions. Questioned as to the “schools” in Palmerston road, the bankrupt said he had no idea as to whose house it was. Witness himself lived in Palmerston road, but the “school” was not in his house. When they went to Aberdeen road, six or seven of them went out by car; they got into the car near the Peel street bridge. Witness did not know tho name of the man with whom lie walked to the car. He could find out his name and lot the assignee know later, if witness saw him about town. He was unable to describe the man; all he could say was that he was a short man wearing a cap. The bankrupt stated that they went out to the school on the second night in a car, but lie did not know tho names of any off the men in the car. He know some of them by sight. The house in Palmerston road was somewhere up towards Roebuck road, on the left-hand side; lie had not taken much notice where it was. It was oh the town side of Roebuck road, but he did not know which block the house was in. Witness had not previously visited the house. It was fairly late in the evening when they got thero, and the “school” had assembled before he arrived. There were not many playing. Witness did* not know tho names of any of the men who were in the room, though he knew a good many of them by sight. Ho did not think lie could find his way to the house again. If ho dropped across any of The men whom he knew by sight he supposed he could find out where the house was.

The assignee: It would be the same crowd of men attending on tho different nights? The bankrupt: Oh, no. It’s not conlined to a few blokes. You’ll find some of the heads of the town there sometimes.

; Mr Burnard: On the first night in Palmerston road, who were the- big winners?—l couldn’t say. You know them by sight?—l knew them just to speak to. How much did you lose on that occasion?—l have no idea.

On the third ocacsion, how did you get there? —By ear. Where did you get in?—At the Peel street corner.

In whose car? —I couldn’t tell you. How did you come to get in?—l was just standing on the corner, and two or three -asked me. if I was going along. They had played two-up before in your company? —Yes. What were their names?—l don’t know.

Not any of them? —No. You didn't even know their Christian names?—No.

Did you know what house you were going to?—I knew it was the house we had been to before. You never ask questions when you go to a thing like that. Do you know who was the owner of the house?—No.

Do you know who was the tenant? — No. • , a You were present in the Supremo Court when the case was called on-? Yes. How long before that day was it that .this particular visit was paid?—l.' could not tell von how long it would be. How did you get home on that occasion? —I walked homo,

In. whose company i~ My own. How far did you walk? —Something under a mile. ■Whereabouts is your place?—By the main school. How did you come away on the other occasion on 'which you were at the bouse in Palmerston road —I walked away alone. How did you come- away from the Aberdeen road house?—l walked. Alone ?—I can’t remember that. How far was the house in Aberdeen road from your own hohie?—l don’t know. 1 liave no idea of distance. ; Do you not know the name of a single person who was present on the third occasion?—No. I only know them to speak to. You say you lost money at the races; will you tell us your bets that day?—l had a few l>ets. ‘but I can’t remember now what I backed. You went out to the meeting?—l went on one day. I can’t say which day it was. . . .

Can you not remember a single bet?— No. I could’nt tell you now what I was backing. In fact, it took me about 10 minutes before I could remember my

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own name the other morning, through worrying over this case. All your bets were invested on the totalisator that day?—Yes. What was the largest amount that you put on any one horse? —I backed two and three horses in one race. What was the largest amount on one horse?—l can’t remember. I backed three in one race. Just backed them for 'a divvy. Did- you have a bet on every race? — I wasn’t there for the'start. Ilow many races did you see? —I can’t :sav that either. What were the names of some of the horses that you backed ?—I can’t remember. Not one?—No. On which totalisator did you invest your money?—On the £1 totalisator. The Assignee: In all this, did’nt you back one winner?—l remember collecting one small divvy. The witness was cross-examined regarding the loan of £2d to which he ,had referred earlier in the proceedings. He stated that he had not registered at the unemployment, bureau because he would have to go to camp, I was not fit for camp. He had not been away from Gisborne since he had drawn the money, and had not been away from Gisborne at any time during the past two months. Mr. Burnard: Where did you change the £SO notes? - - * ‘ • The bankrupt: Some at the bank. Which bank?—The one where I got them. How many?-—Two, I think. Have you taken any advice from any lawyer during the past two months?— , No; for the simple reason that I didn’t think I conld trust him. I like to keep out of their claws. We’ve been let down so badly in the past. When you wore adjudicated bankrupt bad you any money at all? —No. How have von been living?—l haven’t, t paid my way. A man has told me 1 can stay with him as long as I like. The Assignee: Did you take any of the remaining live or six £SO libtes to the gambling school with you?—l took all of them. I took all the money 1 had on me. ! At the conclusion of the examination, Mr. Burnard suggested that as the bankrupt’s memory was so poor, and as there were so many important facts that he was unable to state, the meeting should be adjourned to enable him to supply information on the points in respect of which he was at present unable to speak. The locality of the houses, the names of the owners and of the players and winners, and all those people associated with the different points referred to could be ascertained by the bankrupt.

The Assignee agreed that it was highly desirable that this information should bo obtained, in the interests of the inquiry and of the bankrupt himself. The meeting was adjourned until tomorrow week, it being intimated that the Assignee \vould supply the bankrupt with a copy of the evidence and afford him every facility to provide the information required.