MANAWATU A. AND P. ASSOCIATION.

Manawatu Times, Volume LXV, Issue 1891, 9 April 1913, Page 6

MANAWATU A. AND P. ASSOCIATION.

VARIOUS BUSINESS. ™ A The monthly meeting of the As- w sociation was held yesterday, Mr T. w It. Hodder presiding. " Mr Collinson, the new member on m the committee, was welcomed by tl the presideut. THE EXHIBITION DONATION. The question of a donation of £2O ti from the society towards a Mana- It watu Court at Auckland Exhibition ai was discussed. d Mr Nash spoke strongly in favour d of being represented at the Exhibi- J tion. aud pointed out that several ei locai bodies had already agreed to 7 give donations. In asking for £2O from the Association it was only p small matter compared with t< benefits derived and the far-re? it iug effect upon the district. ,c/h-; Major Dunk recalled the sentation at Christchurch, ptethe court there was about ♦ A -said in the Exhibition, and un' 'Worst ter display was made at a e ! i * would be ridiculous to Auckland it thing. 'donate anyMr Nash said t)' of opinion, and t> was a matter who differed fro' we others Mr J M Jf 1 ' Dunk, the Associate did not think ton, Was in a position to ■ -i '&> thought if the Counj cil do .'the Association paid J * of the amount in

-efetfenefss thought it was quite ri ® i ffet 'the Cnamber of Com/fee and local bodies to tfike an in- *' <&e£t £n the movement, but he considered it was outside the province /of 'tlhe Association to give a dona- • tion. The question arose whether it was the right thing to take money ■out of an Association that was supported by members all over the island. Personally he would not support giving a donation, although in sysinpathy with the movement. The President said he was sorry this attffcude had been taken as they should have a broader view of the matter. It was an exhibit that would be interesting and beneficial. He did not like the impression to go abroad that this Society was too mean to give away a small matter of £2O. He did not think any member in the South Island wanted would object to support the proposal. It was decided to grant the £2O. A GOVERNING BODY. Mr Conway moved/ that it be a remit to the A. and P. Associations annual conference "That this committee is of opinion that a governing body to be known as the National Agricultural and Pastoral Societies Conference or other suitable name should be established. Mr Lancaster supported the movement and considered it a hplendid idea. The chairman stated that the matter had been talked about for years past. It was desirablo that A. and P. Societes in New Zealand should have a recognised governing body. It was then agreed to send forward the remit. REGISTRATION. The registration of stallions was then discussed,and Mr K. Dalrymple moved that a remit be sent to the A. and P. Conference pointing out the desirability of registration of stallions. Mr E. Short supported Mr Dalrymple and the motion was carried. MAMMITIS. A third remit that the Government be asked to take steps to prevent cows suffering from mammitis being sold as dairy cows was agreed to. CORRESPONDENCE. From N.Z. Jersey Breeeders' Association, stating that medals for male and female. Jerseys are )ffered under the usual conditions for competition at next spring show ttabject to usual conditions the judge to be elected from the official list of the Association.—Accepted and vote of thanks passed. Mr F. H. "Cooke wrote offering to donate £5 to the Association fund 3. —A hearty vote of thanks was passed to Mr Cooke, Major Dunk remarking that several donations had been received from the same source.

From Messrs Dustins, Ltd., asking for a lease of catering at both shows for a term of years.—A sub-commit-tee was set up to deal with the matter.

From the Government Department lof Agriculture stating they had learned that the concurrence of Government stock at the show was not altogether welcome to some exhibitors. The Department was not anxious to exhibit stock on extensive linse, but it would be unfortunate if the Department was entirely debarred from some competitions as for instance the Holstein stock from Wereroa. It was desirable in the interests of the community that the matter should he brought before the public, and it was also an advantage to the Department to have their stock judged in the usual competitions. To take stock to a show for exhibition only was decidedly undesirable as it was comparison that was sought.—Mr Slack considered it unfair to have Government competition as in time they would drive out the small breeder. The Government had the money and could afford good stock, but it was wrong to allow them to compete. He favoured allowing the Government to show in the classes, but not for competition with private breeders. Mr Slack moved in accordance with his remarks. —Mr McHardy said he agreed with Mr Slack, but he thought it was a matter for the conference to decide.—Mr Jacobs then moved as an amendment that the matter be dealt with at che conference.—Mr toarkness failed to see why the Government should be excluded. It was to the benefit of all breeders to have the very best stock shown. —The amendment was carried in favour of sending the matter to the conference. THE HORSE SHIELD.

A letter was received from Walter P. Archibald alleging that injustice 'had been done him at a committee meeting held on October Bth, 1910, when Mr J. M. Johnston had mane certain statements regarding his action in connection with the draught Jiorse champion challenge shield as reported in the Manawatu Daily Times of October !>, ID!-'. After waiting for fair explanations, rlie writer was reluctantly compelled to >1 i-k the Association's protection. Mr Jacob saiit it was not a questiou of Mr Archibald v. the committee, but between the H&wko's Bay hor.-.e breeders and the committee. r J he was this: Mr Archibald and others collected £OO for two shields j

A u the horse section and stip Ir ertain measurements in the iitions. The shields were acc conChe horse committee deliberr ,es9t>ed. aade certain suggestions w' ttfed and owarded to Mr Archi 1 ji'dh were replied, and .Md. Mr vent smoothly till "everything vhen the committee A'tigust 6th, hat the system of j- Wrote stating aeasurement was urging horses by he meantime, 'tinworkable. In ir-iered the si' jfcf Archibald had Che shields v ,<i<eids from London, wted for at ' /tite eventually comion being the comptviast the Successful. In Janus' vy iccepted Hawke's Bay breed rlitionc . 'tihe shield and the conielig' , "also Canterbury were alst rac ,i(ised with the conditions. Mi ;n ,>fc concluded that naturallv <*tjgh Mr Archibald and certaii: iawke's Bay people felt that the> -had not been treated fairly. Mi .I 'Jacob then moved that tlie secretary i; 'Write to Mr Archibald explaining that it was owing to a misunderstanding as to tne views of the Hawke's Bay exhibitors on the sub . ject that the offer of the draughl i horse shields was not accepted, anc regretting that his proposals did not ; receive more careful consideration. Mr Lancaster considered they hac; fallen in over the matter, and hj( • thought amends should be made tc : the Hawke's Bay breeders. Mr E. Short said the way ir : which the conditions of measure i ment were passed was ridiculous. Mr H. Booth said that from the . very start the Horse Schedule Comi mittee were not favourable to th< Conditions, and letters were ex > changed frequently advising Hawke's Bay of the objection. Mr Short said the matter wai rushed on too near the s-liow whei i the committee had not time to con sider the thing properly. ; Mr Conway said the point wa< that a compliment in offering tin shield was paid the Association The result was that Mr Archi bale had been told on three occasions tha l the shield would be accepted, and 01 the fourth it was rejected and with ■ out a word of explanation. The leas • the Association could do was to mak< s amends in a gentlemanly way. Mr Balsillie said it would be th< most favourable way of getting » out of the difficulty to agree. • Mr Jacob's motion was then car ried. Mr Jacob then moved, "That th< i secretary also inform Mr Archibalc that the committee dissociates itsel: altogether from remarks made by M: Johnston as reported, and regret: they were made.'' Mr Short thought this was a wrong i attitude to adopt, as if the soonei i ill-feeling was stopped the better. The Chairman hoped the element of ill-feeling would not come intc ■ the discussion. * i Mr Johnston said that he had ob > jected to the tone of two of Mi Archibald's previous letters, and oi the strength of those letters he hac said that Mr Archibald should b< "pulled up." He had no desire tc ©nter into any correspondence whati ever with Mr Archibald. He re gretted that Mr Jacob should have said what he did, as no one who bad read the letters from Mr Archibald could say otherwise then tliey were impertinent. No doubt a mis take may have been made over th( shield. Mr Short supported Mr Johnston, and criticised Mr Archibald's actior towards the Hawke's Bay breeders iu bringing the shield here. Mr Dunk remarked that it was time to desist from washing dirty linen. Before the motion was put Mr Buchanan moved, and Mr Pringle seconded, that the matter be held over till next meeting. Mr Dunk said it was a pity Mr Hugh Gillies, chairman of the Horse Committee, was not present. PersonJ ally, he was inclined to back up Mr Johnston. The Chairman was opposed to referring the matter to next meeting. They had to bear in mind that if Mr Archibald had written letters which were not in good taste it was unwise for the committee to take up a similar attitude. He did not think the matter reflected on Mr Johnston. Mr Johnston disagreed, and said it was a direct slap in the face for him by the committee. The amendment that it be deferied till next meeting was carried by 13 to 8.