PARLIAMENTARY.
L.PBBBS ASSOCIATION TJHJ3I. J
LEGISLATIVE CO UNCI. T "
Tuesday, June 21. The Council met at 2.30 p.m. ij The Companies Bill, Diseased Caitiff V of Females and other Ei?x Friendly Societies Bill, Inspection of Machinery Bill, Parliamentary Privileges Bill, Public" Domains Bill, Crown Suits Bill and Public Reserves Bill were received by message from the Governor. Being Statute Revision Bills they were read a first time, and ordered for second reading next day. The Hon. F. Whitaker gave notice for the appointment of a committee, to whom all Statute Revision Bills should bo referred. The Hon Mr Chamberlain moved that the Government should provide a safer powder ground and safer storage for explosives at Auckland than the present, but the Hon. F. Whitaker said that all such matters were in the control of thu - Harbor Board, and the motion was negatived.
The Hon. G. M. Waterhouse moved the second reading of the Married Woman’s Property Protection Bill which,, after a short debate, was carried, and the measure was then, on the suggestion of the Hon. F. Whitaker, referred to a Select Committee. All tho other business on tho Order Paper was postponed, and the Council rose at 3.55. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. Tuesday, June 21. The House mot at 2 30 p.m. PETITION. The Hon. P. Dick presented a petition from the Otago Bible in Schools Society, praying that provision might be made for the reading of the Scriptures in schools. NOTICES OP MOTION. Mr Toms gave notice that he would introduce a Bill for tho Incorporation of an Institute of Surveyors. Mr Pm gave notice of a new clause i= the Licensing Bill providing for compensation to houses deprived of their licenses. Mr Hamlin gave notice that he would aok when the investigation into the working of the insurance department would be madepublic. NEW BILL. The Post-Office Acts Consolidation Bill was introduced by message from the Governor and road a first time. LEAVE OF ABSENCE, Two weeks’ leave of absence was granted to Mr Hurst. QUESTIONS. Replying to Major Te Wheoro, The Hon. J. Hall said that it was not the intention of the Government to introduce a Bill providing compensation for losses incurred by the subjects of both races during past wars.
Replying to Mr Pitt, The Hon. J. Hall said that the official designation of High Commissioner of the Western Pacific was a personal title of a descriptive character, like the Q.O.M.G. Governors were usually allowed to choose their own descriptive titles for use in official documents, and it wss always customary for such titles to precede the designation of the office by virtue of which the act was being done. Thus in official documents signed by the High Commissioner in that capacity, the descriptive title of Governor of New Zealand preceded the title of High Commissioner. Replying to Major Te Wheoro, The Hon. W. Rollbston said that provision would be made for fencing round the Native burial ground at Taupiri, in accordance with the recommendation of the Native affairs committee.
Replying to the Hon. E. Richardson, The Hon, J. Hall said that arrangements would be made for the fortnightly pay of all wages to railway workmen.
Replying to Mr Tawhaia, The Hon. Major Atkinson said that orders would be given for the proper working of the flagstaff at Maiki Russell, in tho signalling of vessels entering the harbor. Replying to Mr Pitt, The Hon. Major Atkinson said that the wages of platelayers and laborers on certain railways had been readjusted, in accordance with the current market rates. The reduc-
tion made, in conformity to the readjustment, ranged Dom 10 to 15 per cent. Replying to Mr Barron, The Hon. J. Hall said that Government would take into consideration the question of introducing a Bill for the endowment with waste lands of hospitals and charitable institutions similar to that introduced last session by Mr Stevens, if Mr Stevens had determined not to reintroduce it himself.
Replying to Sir W. Fox, The Hon J. Hall said that the provisions of the law would be strictly enforced to provide against the introduction of smallpox from the Australian colonies. They would not be prepared to impose a tax of £lO, or any other sum, upon immigrants likely to introduce it, as they would prefer keeping away such persons altogether. Replying to Mr Whyte, The Hon. T. Dick said that Government would be glad to introduce the Town District Bill, withdrawn last session, provided the progress of business warranted such a step. Replying to Mr Whyte, The Hon. Major Atkinson said that Government proposed to introduce a Local Public Works Bill this session, the provisions of which would be more ample than the Bill of last session.
Replying to Mr Reid, The Hon. W. Rollbston said that steps had and would continue to bo taken with the view of carrying out the recommendations of the Colonial Industries Commission as to the assistance to be given for the development of coal, gold, iron, and other material on the West Coast of the Middle Island. The steps taken were not of a specific character, but every facility and encouragement had been, and would be, given to carry out the recommendations of the Commission.
Replying to Mr Tole, The Hon. J. Hall said that Government saw no necessity for having the Main road, County of Eden, from the Harp of Erin Hotel to Temaki bridge proclaimed a Government road. To do so would be too act in an exceptional manner. Replying to Mr Hutchison, The Hon. T. Dick said that the management of the Kobimarama Training School had been handed over to the Education Board of Auckland. Improvements had been already effected, and further improvements wore contemplated. Full details would be given shortly in tho report of the Education Department. Replying to Mr Pitt, Tho Hon. Major Atkinson said that preliminary enquiries would be made relative to the best means and cost of improving the outer harbor of Nelson in order to obviate any damage from the Wuimea river having altered its outlet. Mr J. O. Brown, without notice, asked the Premier if ho would take the House into his confidence and inform it whether it was intended to fill up the vacant Public Works portfolio without further delay. Tho Premier, in reply, said he feared it would bo scarcely constitutional to reply to such a question without notice. Mr Brown gave notice of it for to-morrow. CHINESE IMMIGRATION BILL. On tho motion for agreeing to report on the Chinese Immigration Bill, Mr Beeves moved that the Bill bo recommitted for the purpose of altering clauses 3 and 5, so as to require ships not to carry more than one Chinese passenger for every fifty, instead of every ten tons burthen, and to make the tax on arrival £SO instead of £lO. The amendment was opposed by Major Atkinson, who thought such amendment would probably prevent the Bill receiving tho Queen’s assent. After discussion, the motion for recommittal of Bill was rejected hy 36 to 23. The following is the division list : Ayes, 23 —Messrs Allwright, Andrews, Ballance, Barron, Brown, DeLautonr, Fisher, J. 'I 1 . (Heathcote), Sir W. Fox, Sir Q. Grey, Messrs Harris, George, Hutchison, Jones, Montgomery, Moss, Ormond, Pyke, Reeves, Shephard, S!c»art, Thomson, Tole, Whitaker. Noes, 36 —Messrs Atkinson, Bain, Bastings, Bectham, Biwon, Bryce, Bunny, Oolbcck, Collins, Dick, Either, j. B. (Bullor), Gibbs, Hall, Hamlin, Hirst, H. (Wallace), Hursthouse, Johnston, Kelly, Lovistum, Levin, Lundon, McLean, Murray, Oliver - , Pitt, Reid, Richardson, R.Oleston, Seymour, Stevens, St.udholmc, Sutton, Swanson, Wallis, White, Wood. The Bill was reported, road a third lime and passed. licensing bill. The House went into committee, and tho Licensing Bill was further considered. On clause 31, bottle licenses, Mr Swanson moved that tho clause be struck out altogether.
Mr Fulton and Sir W. Fox spoke in support of the clause being struck out. The former gave it as his experience as a Besidont Magistrate of Otago, where this form of license was in operation that it was a groat abuse, and had been a means of encouraging drunkenness on the part of women and families, Messrs McLean, Baeron, and Moss spoke in support of the clause, stating it as their opinion that a good deal of blame had been attributed to the system, which did not properly belong to it. u- 6 on " Dice said that, in objecting his system, members had overlooked the i ~ hat it was subjected to the local option a . these licenses would not be Tantotf n P^ acea w^ere the danger referred to
VBT proposed, as a proviso—“ Thai ‘ ’hould only bo issued within tin “ ,e »' where they at preoenl S He *3(4 in s “PP° r J t of th ° proposal, “ 110 E i L ,’- 't those districts where the that it appeared , in favcr of th and licenses existed 1 : Bt tho dfstl . ict ffie^b whore they did not' e ffe ™°K d <h ° proposed reatric Mr Plx. objectuQ cnee was good for tion, stating-that if LhO ?K -, ust be e q ual!y one provincial distr.'t'V M x nnmK«« /e good for tho others. I*’ jSFelWtv and . these licensee • wore in oporatfiix ’ , single complaint had ll'Oen mo*V abuse. , After further debate, tr<a Houih* , e . on Stewart’s amendment, Tho foil*!'*- “ tho division list: Ayes, 37 Messrs Aliw right, Ar.fi rovt, ’’
Atkinson, Ballar.ce, Barron, Brown, Bannj*,. Colbeck, DeLautour, Dick, Sir W. Fotf, Messrs Fulton, 6-eorge, Hall, Harris, Hirst, H. (Wallace), Johnston, Jones, Macandrew, McLean, Moss, Murray, Oliver, 3,olleatoi>, Saunders, Shephard, Bhrimski, Speight, Stewart, Swanson, Tawhia, Tewhero, Thomson, Tole, Turnbull, Whitaker, White. Noes, 27—Bain, Boetham, Bowen, Brandon, Bryce, Collins, Fisher, J. B. (Fuller), Fisher, J, T. (Heathcote), Gibbs, Hursthouso, Kelly, Levin, Lundon, Mason, Montgomery, Ormond, Pitt, Beid, Efchardson, Kusssll, Stevens, Studholme, Sutton, Tomoana, Trimble, Wakefield, Wallis. Mr Tole moved, as a further amendment, the words “and no such liconsee shall carry on any other business on tho premises.” The House divided, with tho following result:— Ayes, 39—Misers Allwright, Andrews, Bowen, Brandon, Bryce, Oolbecz, J. B. Fisher (Buller), J. T. Fisher (Heathcote). i Sir W. Fox, Messrs Fulton, George, Globs, Gisborne, Sir G. Grey, Messrs Hall, Harris, Hursthouso, Jones, Kelly, Lundon, Mason, Montgomery, Murray, Richardson, Bolleston, Saunders, Shephard, Speight, Stevens, Studholme, Sutton, Tawhaio, Tewheoro, Thomson, Tole, Tomoma, Wakefield, Wallis, Whitaker, Whyte. Noes, 28 —Messrs Atkinson, Bain, Ballance, Barron, Beotham, Brandon, Brown, Collins, DeLautour, Dick, Hamlin, H. Hi'sb (Wallace), Johnston, Levestam, Levin, MoLean, Moss, Oliver, Ormond, Pitt, Beid, Bolleston, Shrimski, Stewart, Swanson, Trimble, Turnbull.
Colonel Thimble thought they had now got into a very ridiculous position, and moved that progress be reported. Sir W. Fox said he was oppoeed to the clause altogether, but if it passed, the amendments made were decided improvements. The House divided on reporting progress, which was negatived by 53 to 11, The House adjourned at 5.30 p.m. EVENING SITTING. The House resumed at 7.30. LICENSING BILL. The Hon. T. Dick consented to clause 31, “bottle license, ’’ being struck out, and the clause was struck out on the voices. Clause 32—Effect of New Zealand wine license. Colonel Thimble moved—“ That the danse be made to read the ‘ produce of grapes grown in the colony.’ ” In opposition to the amendment, it was argued that a good wholesome beverage in the form of wine was made from other fruits besides grapes. Mr Wakefield strongly supported the clause, which was founded on the recommendation of the Local Industries Commission, after taking full evidence os to the probable effect on important local industries. Mr Olives admitted the importance of bringing the colonial wine into notice, but dreaded that the clause, if retained, would open a door for sly-grog selling. The clause passed as printed. a Clause 33—Effect of billiard table license. Mr Mosb moved that the clause be struck out. After discussion, the Hon. T. Dick said that, as the feeling was in favor of the clause being struck out, he had no particular wish to see it retained. Clause struck out. Clause 34—Effect of packet licenses. In reply to Mr Hutchison, The Hon. T. Dick slated that to prevent packets selling liquor on the Sundays while lying at the wharf, the words “ daring the passage ” had been inserted in the clause. The clause as printed was passed. Clause 35—Wholesale licenses. Mr Andebws moved as an amendment that the words “one bottle” be inserted instead of “ two gallons,” so as to make the clause read “ a wholesale license shall authorise the licensee to sell one bottle.” On a division the amendment was negatived by 38 to 23. Ayes, 23 —Messrs Andrews, Atkinson, Ballance, Barron, Bowen, DoLautour, Dick, Fisher, J. B. (Buller), Hirst, H. (Wallace), Hursthouse, Levcstam, Lnndon, Maoandrew, Montgomery, Moss, Oliver, Ormond, Pitt, Reid, Stewart, Taiaroa, Trimble, Wallis. Noes, 38—Messrs Allwright, Bain, Bastings, Beotham, Bowen, Brandon, Bunny, Oolbeck, Collins, Sir W. Fox, Messrs Fulton, George, Gibbs, Hall, Harris, Johnston, Jones, Kelly, Levin, McLean, Murray, Reeves, Richardson, Rolleston, Russell, Saunders, Shephard, Shrimsbi, Speight, Stevens, Studholme, Sutton, Swanson, Tawhaia, To Wheoro, Thompson, Tole, Whitaker.
Colonel Tbimbib moved that the words “of any one description of liquor” bo struck out.
Agreed to on the voices. Mr Baebon moved to report progress. The motion was lost on the voices. Mr Ltjndon moved that the licenses be restricted to towns and boroughs. This was lost on a division of 32 to 29, and the clause passed. Ayes, 32—Messrs Atkinson, Bain, Barron, Bastings, Brown, Bunny, Collins, Da Lautour, Dick, Fisher, J. B. (Buller), Gibbs, Hall, Hirst, H. (Wallace), Hursthouse, Johnston, Lovestam, Levin, Maoandrow, McLean, Moss, Oliver, Ormond, Pitt, Beeves, Eoid, Eichardson, Eolleston, Stevens, Studholme, Sutton, Trimble, Wallis. Noes, 29—Messrs Allright, Andrews, Ballanco, Beetham, Bowen, Bryce, Fisher, J. T. (Heathcote), Sir W. Fox, Messrs Fulton, George, Harris, Hutchison, Jones, Kelly, Lundon, Montgomery, Murray, Bussell, Saunders, Shephard, Speight, Stewart, Swan son, Taiaroa, Tawhaia, Towheoro, Thomson, Tole and Whitaker. Clause 36—Conditional licenses—races, regattas, &c. The clause was slightly amended and passed. Clause S7—Midnight licenses. Carri"d. Clause 38—Acquirements for family hotels. Struck out.
Clause 39—Accommodation in public houses. Passed as printed. Clause 40 —Requirements for houses outside boroughs. The clause was amended so as to read—
“Nothing in last preceding section shall apply to any house or room or booth on a cricket ground or to any other place sot apart, &o.” The clause as amended was passed. Clause 41 —Quarterly licensing meetings to bs held. Passed as printed, os also was clause 43.
Clause 43 —Application to be heard in open Court. Postponed.
Clause 44—Passed. Clause 45, as amended, was passed, Clause 46.
Bir W. Fox said that ho had important amendments that would create considerable discussion. Ho would move that progress be reported. Mr Buckley agreed, stating th&t ho was quite euro the Bill would never pass. They were only amusing themselves, and there could bo no doubt but that it would bo withdrawn.
Mr Reetes opposed the adjournment, but agreed in the opinion that tho' Bill would no! pass. He suggested that tho beat way would be to withdraw it at once.
Tho motion for reporting progress was with drawn.
On tho clause being proceeded with, Sir W. Fox moved that it bo altered so ao to read “ from and after tho commencement of the Act no publican's or other license shall be
granted until the ratepayer* of the district shall have previously determined," &c. He objected to local option being confined to now license*. Mr Saunders said that he had supported the temperance parly up to this stage. If they adopted the amendment ho could *ee that it would jeopardise the Bill, By making licensing benches elective, they had really carried local option. If licenses were taken away by elective benches no claim for compensation could arise, but if by direct action tuch claims could not be resisted. Ho thought the temperance party should take what they could get and what was just instead of jeopardising the whole Bill. The amendment was negatived on the voices. An amendment that all clubs in existence ° n .‘, , o , ls '■ Ju nc last shall remain in operation until they huvo had an opportunity for taking out a license after Ist January next was carried, and the cluusesa as mended passed. Clauses 4-7 to 58 were passed with only verbal amendments. Clause 59 was amended and passed and clauses 60 and 61 were also passed. ’ Clause 63—Objections in Native Districts Postponed.
Progress was then reported, and the House rose at 12 5.
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