HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 8.

Daily Southern Cross, Volume XX, Issue 2305, 9 December 1864, Page 6

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THURSDAY, DECEMBER 8.

Tim Speaker took his seat at 12 o'clock. J^OTAGO FIRE ANT) MARINE TNSUItVNCE COMPANY

IIILIa Mr. Buodie moved the third reading of this bill. Mi. Cii.mi:s s\ul, before the bill was read a third time, he wished to direct attention to the course taken in regird to private bills. On a pievious occasion lie had called ntfcention to the way in which private bills could be slipped through the House without it having an opportunity of considering their provisions. He had directed attention to a bill which recognised new and impmtant principles in banking — that bnnks should have limited liabilities That bill was allowed to pass without a singlo rcmaik being made about ifc liy the Government or the House. "The Otngo Fiicand Maiine Insuiancej Company Bill also involved the piinciple oE limited, liability. He had endeavoured to find out the evidence that had been taken icgardingit in committee, but eoidd not obtain access to it. He had been in- j formed that the Parliamentaiy agents had taken ( the evidence with them. He protested that their, * legislation would be ruinous if this course were pur- 1 sued, and he would ask the Government to take this matter into their hands. His remarks were applicable lo other private l^illi to be pushed through the House. He had observed by the public (mute that that Insurance )Spmpnuy, which had been in operation for some considerable time, had sustained heavy losses, and he desired to ascertain whether the,' select Committee had ascoitniued the financial position of that company before granting limited liability. As he had called the attention of the Government to that subject, he hoped they would lend the weight of their influence and position to picvent sucli v l<ills being sli|ip?d thiongh the House, without propexijifanuflJiipn. being ojitaiped, jindjj, iuULopportumty to the House to consider these bills and expiess their opinion upon them. Mr. Carl* ion explained the comse which had been taken upon the bills by himself and the committee. Major Tilcjiaudson said there was no question the subject was a very important one ; but he was quite sure the House would recognise the impossibilry of Jhe Government undertaking the supoi vision of those bjlte nndev the peculiar circumstances in which they had taken office. The attention of the AttorneyGeneril bad been directed to the bills. Mi. VogkTj observed that, although tho insurance company had sustained considei able loss, yet^it had/ a reserved fund, and six months afterwards was in if position to declaie a bonu*. It had issued the remainder of shai es at something like 5(1 per cent. , and shareholders took up the fih.ues, which'' spoke fjji 1 the estimation in which the company was held. discussion took place upon the meiits of the bill, aud the motion for third reading, being put, was noeatived.-'

( DUVEDIK WATKR WORKS BILTj. 'Mr. Reynolds moved the thiid rending of this "Mil ; which, lie said, was bi ought in for the purpose of incorporating a company to supply DuneiUn with u ater. Mr. Caulktox repoi tod that the committee which had sat on the Uril had agreed to the .second reading. Mr. Gillies thought the bill contained veiy objectionable e'etaih ; as it gave the company the power to late the inhabitants of Dunedin not only for public piu poses, but also for piivate use. A person who might not choose to use the water supplied by the company, but take the water from his own \vell, would be equally liable with those who used the water. He did not wish to oppose the bill in any way, but he wished the clauses to be amended ; and he would propose that it should be referred back to the Select Committee, particularly directing their attention to clauses 20, 28. 36, .37, and 50. By the Hiill tho company were bound to nothing, but the inhabitants were bound to eveiything. Mr. Colesso secoDded the amendment. Mr. Atkin&on agieed with Mr. Gillies in his objections, and advised that the amendment bhould be acceded to, as Government could not agiee to tlie^ bill m it then stood. '$ Mr. VoGF.fi believed that the clauses objected to weie almost entiie tianscriptsof a bill introduced on the same subject in Victoria. 'As far as could be asoei taincd, the inhabitants oF Dunedin wei e in favour of the bill, and anything which would jeopardise the passing of the bill duiing the present session would be regarded as a public mis. fort line. It was to be feared that from the want of water a veiy serious calamity might result from an epidemic aiising. Mr. Gijvurs, in explanation, said he was awaie that the public of Uunedin were gren'ly in favour of the bill ; but that was no reason why an injustice should be done to them, by passing the bill iD its present form. For that reason he had proposed that it should be iof erred to a select oommittee to be amended. Mr. Paterson trusted there would be no opposition offered ; but if any amendment could be easily made, it was desirable it should be done. Major Richardson thought it highly desirable that tho hill should undergo a libtle further consideration before receiving the final approval of the Government, lie therefore trusted that the promoter of the bill would not object to have the amendments made. Mr. Reynolds replied he was not surprised at the objection raised by his hon. friend Mr. Gilliea, because he had found ever since that gentleman came to tho colony than; he objected to everything that he had not his finger iv. The bill was founded on similar measures passed 'in New South Wales and Victoria; and ho was sure theie was not a dozen inhabitants in Dunedin who would object to pay the rate. Ho objected in toto to the alterations proposed by the lion, member. The bill would be well advertised in the newspapers, in the gazette approved of by tho Superintendent and the Provincial Government ; anil therefore lie held as a matter of courtesy that tho (pill should not bo interfered with. Ifc would be admitted that the House should not inter- 1 J&ce in local matters more than neoessary, and the \jll ought to be passed. <J, Major Richardson did not believe the lion, mover was correct in stating .that the Provincial Govornment of Otago had agreed to the Trill as it; appeared before the House. The rating clauses had been inserted sinfto the\ill was sent up to Auckland. ) # The amendment was then put and carried. CANTERBURY GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY BIHi. Mr. Thomson moved the third reading of, tliii bill. ' _' , , ' \', < Mr.-GiLMfes trusted some ,woiild hi given on" the bill, as* no intimation had been reoeived> by the House whence the fond* should be obtained*

'UMxZQbx said the fund* would bo' rnisod from the;; of tiio province,— two-fifths pt the iland f^fenvib being set apart for tho harbour trust - and 'the 1 ' railway. ' ' , ' > -Mr. Oolbnso said two railway bills were to come before the House, anl lie would like to know how . inuohof the two-fiffchs would be devoted to the workt." Mr. Thomson said tho railway was absolutely 'necessary to the development of the resources of the iproviuce. It would cost about £6,000 per mile, and Was almost on a dead level— the greatest gradient j fbeing lin 300. . . I The motion for third reading was then put and' [carried, and the Speaker was authorised to forward' *he bill to the Legislative Council for their conside- ■ fration. !

[ NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. Fox inquired if an oppoitunity would not bo jiyen for hon. members giving notice of motiont He found, from the course business was takiug, that ton. members would in all probability be shut out rora giving notices of motion for succeeding days. The oloolc was approaohing rapidly towards three, fend no l opportunity had, up to that .time, been afforded. { The Speaker said ho would sot five minutes apart for receiving notices of motion when three o'clock arrived. OANTERIIURY GREAT SOUTHERN RAILWAY BILL. Mr. Thomson moved the third leading of this bill. Mr. Stafford said the provinces generally wore ' ontej ing into large undertakings in regard to railways, , and it was a subject deserving the attention of the , Government whether some decision should not bo ' come to in the adoption of somo universal guago. After some remarks from Mr. D. Bell and Mr. C. Wiloon, tho bill wiw read a third time and' passed, and the Speaker was ordered to transmit it to the Legislative Council. ,

PK'iirroNS. Colonel Haultain' presented a petition from cer- • tain settlers of the Waikato district, stating that they, had sustained loss in consequenaa o£ having beenobliged to leave their property during tho late dis-j turbanco, and praying that the House would taka their case Into consideration. The petition was received and laid on. the table. Sir. FrazGEiULD piesented a petition from tluee| natives, named Hemare, Hepenc, and Te Ilopa. The, f prayer of the petition was that the House would] rectify matters connected with their land at Ohairoa, 1 which land claims were still unsettled, although for 1 many years they had been urging that a settlement should be made. He (Mr. F.) might state that the translation had been looked over by Mr. Mantell and he had stated that it was correct. '. The petition was received. , Mr. FitzGeraid also presented a petition fiom Honaua, Ta Maioka, and others. The petitioners |>tated that they were not willing that Ngnruawahia should bo sold or wrongfully taken by any person, jbecanso that land was their own (the petitioner's) ; 'and it prayed that the sale of the laud should bo [inquired into. Tho House, in the opinion of the j petitioners, were the proper persons to rectify th >so ! matters, and that was the reason why the petitioners to tho House for justice. The petitioners ' stated that they had been living for some time among tbe pakehas— no place being stated — and belonged to the Ngatimahnta tribe. They spoke positively of their light to the land at NqaruavrnliLi. In moving that the petition be received, he begged leave to say that he e^pres^cd no opinion about the matter, but at that stage of tho session he did not think the House could enter into the subject : there fore, when tho proper time came ho would ask the permission of the House to move thai the two petitions he had presented should be forwarded to the Governor, with the petition of To Kau o Kehnna and others, of which lie had given notice, praying that his Excellency would cause full inquiry to bo made into the petitions. The petition was received and laid upon the table. Mr. C. T. Taylok moved that the petition of Major Wai meslcy, commanding (he Colonial Defence Force, should be refeucd to the committee appointed to take into consideration the petition of the men of tlie Colonial Defence Force. Mr. Atkinson said, whatever action the Government might take in reference to the Hawke's Ray and Wellington Colonial Defence Forces would apply to the Auckland Defence Force. The Government did not oppose the motion. The petition was ordered to be referrod to the committee.

POSTPONEMENT. On f,he motion of Mr. Weld the two first notions "of motion were postponed until Mr. Fitzherbert, in j whose name they stood, should be present. cirvuniAN or committees t Mr. Catit/iu'ON acked leave to be then exempted ;fioin attending ns Chairman of Committees, as ho had to attend to his duties as Chairman of Commit tee on Piiv.ite Bilk below. Leave w a? given. PAPMW. Mr. Richardson Jaiil on the table papers relating to Postal Service of New Zealand, and conc^pondence on the Mail Service of New Zealand. S} land for no\m kill. p^Mr. Weld moveil the second reading of this bill. |~He considered that .ill history and expeiience showed tint the civilization of a bai barons countiy mainly depended upon toad-making, and that was the fiist means by which they could penuti ate into the wildest countiy, and open it up to the influences of civilisation. The Government ought to have the i itjht to take roads through the countiy, by buying the laud, where that was practicable, from frionds, whether Europeans or "natives ; and when it came to the purchase of hind, if they should be opposed, they should use foice to lepsl foice As there was no now idea in the coiuso thus adopted by the Government, it would not be necessary for him to iccupy the time of the TTouic upon the subject. Mr. Fox called attention to the preamble of the bill, anil suggested that it should bo altered, Mr. Colenso objected to the 4th clause, whish gave the Governor and the Executive Council the power to take a person's private garden 'without any previous notice He submitted, as an amendment in that clause, the introduction of the word " unen closed." Mr. FmGKitAT/D said it was repugnant to the law of England tj give any power to take private pi opeity without giving an oppoitunity to individuals to appear before Parliament, in order to <>tate their objections to the confiscation "of their property. It was one of the misfortunes of th.it system of hurrying on legislation that was now adopted, that they could not give that proper consideration which measures of that kind should receive. The Govei nraent should surround that measure with clauses to protect privato rights. Mr. J. C. Richmond considcied that the Act was an emergency Act, and they should put the same limit to it as the New Zealand Settlement Act. Mr. Dillon Bi:ll was not opposed to the bill ; but trusted dire wouli bo taken in carrying out the measure. Mr. John Willtvmson said between Auckland and the noibhein part of the province there were blocks of countiy belongiug to tho'Wtives, aud somo difficulty was at lust met with in obtaining land for the put poses of road-inakiug ; but fiom a prudent and wise course being adopted, the objections of the natives wete overcome. He considered, however, that it was no use making loads unless they followed them up by settlement ; for vegetation sprang up so rapidly in New Zealand, that they would speodily become waste portions of the country. When followed up judiciously by settlement, the roads would be most useful adjuncts in the civilization of the countiy. " The discussion was continued by Mr. Wayne, aud another hon. member. Mr. G. Graham disliked the bill, and tiusted it would not be passed, as it would Be au infringement of thetieaty of Waitangi. The Natives had pieces of laud which were tapue.d.for graveyatds and other purposes, and it would be manifestly unjust to make a road through grounds of this character. The lion gentleman then nai rated an adventure he had had with natives in biingingdown a fence of a grave to make a road. Mr. Wilson would be very sorry to step over the grave of any person, in fact he would be rather disposed to take off his hat : but that great public works between Taranaki or elsewhere, should be stopped because a Maori grave stood in the way, he^ thought would not be for a moment /sanctioned lJy the House, , \ ' A Mr. Joli/ie trusted the House would- n6t' flinch from the position it had taken that land* should be confiscated: and when the necessities of the gtate requhed they must agree to dispense with those nice formalities which might be requisite in dealiug with a more civilised nation than they had at present to deal with. Mr. Weld said, as far as the troafcy of Waifcangi went, in yielding sjpveroign righ'ts~ it gave them the power .of taking such Una for roads ;_ *nd even to take a road through a graveyard. This was done in England ; although certainly objectionable when it could be avoided. They had the right to take theie roads ; but the House might be satisfied that that right would be exercisod with the greatest posiibk£ care. t „ v >r The, motion was carried, and the bill read * leoond lime, andiwdered'to be committed presently.

jKV ,- DETENTION; Of, THE AtßßpX'tß.' <,-~- ' I' -The Speaker 1 : read "a*lettfir t fr<sm;tbe ;v agohjr ofithe, (Panama, New Zealand,' ;and Australian Mail ComFpany, stating, that the.steamer' 'Airedale' wonld bo ? detained until Saturday, > and ;. that, twenty-three 'berths were available for hon. members, who would be required to give in their names in order that the company might know-what space they could afford to other applicants. . Mr. Brodie said it would be impossible to accede to the request until they knew what coursa the businesi would take. Mr. Weld said the Government intended to ask the House to suspend their, standing' ordeis, nntl get, through the Government business immediately. J ' LAND J'OR ROADS WLL. '* t This bill was considered in contmittee (Mr. O'Rorke, chairman). The clauses weio read seiiatiin, and agreed to without amendment, and ordered to be reported. PANAMA MAIL SERVICE. The House went into committee on this bill. Verbal amendments were made in the tlnee first clauses. On clause 4 being carried, Major Richardson stated that several modifications weie intended to be made in the contract, such ,as the destruction of the Monopoly Clause, and the Coleuian contract, of 1858. , Mr. PitzGkkam) did not think the character of the bill agieed with what the House had beeu led to expect from the statement of the Ministry. The would be placed in a false position by adppt<iug the bill ; and after all the modifications proposed to be introduced, it could not be expected that the Panama company would carry out their agreement. Mr. FitzGerald said that the Government were bound to carry out the contract, as the head of the Government ha I pledged himself, when on the hustings in Canterbury, to the carrying ont of the contract. Major RiwiAKpsotf did not believe that the hon. member at the head of the Government would state to his constituent* anything that he did not mean to cany out in the House. He (Major Richardson) advocated the modification of the contract, and if that coutso were adopted, he would propose the following additional clause :—": — " If in the opinion of the Governor in Council it shall he expedient to to commute, and the said company shall agree to commute, any of the covenants, agreements, engagements or liabijiiies on the pirt of the colony tor a pecuniary payment', it shall lie lawful for the Governor in Council to agree with the saiil company accordingly, and all sums payable under any such last-mentioned iigreement may be paid in like manner as if the same were included in the said contract." Mr. Crosbie Waud said the proposed amendments were all in favour of the colony, and the contracting paity wore consulted on them. He believed it was contrary to all piecedent that the House should declare on certain points of executive arrangement before a negotiation on what the absolute terms of the contract should be. Mr. Vogbl contended that the colony was not moie free from liability regai ding the con ti act than 'it was before the seconA reading. He would support those amendments which would meet the wants of the colony. The House would be compromised by the undecided conduct of the Government in the , matter. Mr. Brandon thought it would be injudicious to fetter the Government by the introduction of any of those specific clauses. If o thought that full power should be given to the Government to make whatever an angement thsy should consider best for the inteiest of the colony. Mr. Gillies would not agree to the course suggested by the last speaker, to place the entire matter in the hands of the Government, but contended tl at the House should include certain stipulations that would be required to be carried out in modification of the bill. Mr. Weld said the view he had taken from the beginning was, without entering into the legality of the question, that there was a kind of compact. Ho ■■ could not admit, however, that they were bound to enter into the contract as a whole ; but looking at it as a matter of principle and as it affected their 'crecVt, it would be very unjust, unwise, and wrong, iwere they to say they would throw it out altogether. JNothiug that he might have said out of the House could have led others to the opinion that they weie entiiely bound to accept the contract as a whole. There were many points in the contract which he would be sorry to see accepted. He could not exactly recall what was said by him .it the meeting in Canterbury, but, still he, believed, he. ha la, general idea, !of what took place. ~ Tliere were to his mind I many points in the contract which they would be justified in asking the company Ito modify, and that ■« ithout any repudiation. In the ■■bill it was proposed to introduce a commutation clause, and giving the Governor pou er to make any arrangements under that which could be m.idex Without in the least repudiating the contract, they had power to oblige the company to enter into lingo tiations with them winch would not interfeie with the interprovincial and inteicolonial service. The amendment proposed by the Postmastcr-Geueial wa» to the effect that it .should not be impciative on the pait of the Governor to enter into a contiact with the slid company for any intercolonial sci vice, kc. Mr. Gillies said tint was not the amendment which the Postmastei General had himself stated as his intention to intioduce. Mr. Fnv.Gtu 4T.D said the committee appeared to have got into a stiange state of misunderstanding about the mattei, and he would propose that the debate be adjourned. Major Richardson, said the Go'einmont were quite pre] ared to accept the proposition, and Government would, if the committee weie willing, adjourn the debate until to monow. Mr. Vogel said that the course adhered to by the Government to adjourn the debate was tantamount to want of desire to ratify the contiact or to effect a coinptomise. Major Hioiiakdson said the Government would adheie to the piopositions for the modification of the bill. Mr. JRhYNOLBS said he would oppose the introduction of the commutation clause proposed by the Government • The discussion was continued until half-pas o'clock, when the committee rose until eight o'clock. The committee resumed at eight o'clock, and Mr. Fitzherbert moved that progress be leported in order Jjtpermit him to move the cci tain resolutions in committee of supply. On the motion being put it was negatived, and additions to clause 3 were moved, giving the Governor power to modify the contract. The commit cc divided, with the following result :—: — Ayes, 26 ; Noes, IS. The motion was consequently carried, and the clause as amended was agreed, to. Clauses 4 wns read. Mr. Gilliks moved, as an amendment, that the words "or sum mentioned in the said contract" in the second iine i-honld be cqmnged, for the p.irpose of inserting a definite sum, and which, if agieeable to hon. members, should be fixed at £76,000. Mr. Wki.d moved ihat progress be leported, and leave asked to sit again. It was important, for many reasons, that the bill for alteiing the taiift should be proceeded with. The Government had consented to a division on the bill, and it would be/lesirable after that to go on with tlie Tariff Bill. !>• Mr. Vogel objected to pi ogress being reported, as it would leave tho bill in an uncertain state, and it would not take long to pass the lemaining clauses. On the motion being put, Mr. Vogel called-for a division, but afterwards withdrew ifc. Progi ess was consequently repoi ted, and the House resumed. The Chairman op Committees reported the Land for Roads Bill, without amendment. On the motion of Mr. Fitzhrrbbrt, the bill was lead a third time and passed ; and the Speaker was : ordered to transmit it to the Legislative Council. The Chairman of Committees reported the Dunedin Watenvoiks Company Bill, limited. j The leport of the xsa-muiittee on the bill was agreed to ; and the bill was read a third time and passed. The Speaker was ordeied to transmit the bill to the Legislative Council for their concurrence.

S QUESTION. r Mr. Reynolds said, he poihaps might be permitted to nsk a question without notice. It was to the effect, whether the Government had received any information from the^rovince of Southland, to the effect that the Superintendent had made an assignment of the provincial estate to an officer of the General Government. (Laughter.) He asked the question — of course he knew that it was not usual to put such a question without giving previous notice ; but as the House was ihortly to be prorogued, he thought it advisable to take up the question at once, because, if so, it would be necessary for the House to take Rome action forthwith. (Hear.) Mr. Weld reolied that he had heard the report, but had no official or certain knowledge on the matter. jor COMPULSORY LAND TAKING BIIX. r The Speaker submitted a message from the Legislative Council, stating that . they had passed a Bill to authorise the compulsory taking of land for public works. ""^ '

-, Ori the motion b£ MrrWrn^thebllLwatfreail^ first time, -and the second* f ending "madman order of - the day for to morrows-Friday)?. --^ - -'" lf f ' \~-*\ '

rKOVmOIAL LOANS. " ,- : , - _ Mr. FmHßßßßKT.laiduonrtbe'.tftble^corresppn'. I',1 ', ' clerice relating to provincial loans, .which had" beea* granted tip to a certain point ; but as they were voluminous, and as hon', members took' much inte-> - rest in the matter, he. thought it was better to lay - them on the table partly in manuscript and partly printed. "' ' > rUa correspondence was laid on the table. '-

SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS. * Weld moved that tbe-ktandins qrders.Abe ' suspended'tlmb'effecbed-the bringing in4>ills without motion/ Ilia object wai to pass the hills whichiie then held in his hand — namely, an Act to authorise the Government to increase the rabe of money to l>e hereafter raised upon "the New Zealand Loan Act, 18G3; lurAct to raise one million by debentures; and an Acb to alber the duties on pustoms. Mr. SCi.O'N'iaiJ.'brusted the hou. ~niov6r would confine himself to lho->e standing brders referring to the passing of the Tariff Bill. He (Mr. 'j; ON.) thought it scarcely judicious to act with such railway speed in passing imporbanirmis ; and unless ho heard that the immediate object of Government was to pa»a a for necessaiy purposes, he would objeob to the landing *qrdoi s Ijeing suspended. v Mr. I'mnKKBEBT said the three bills sought to bo iutioduccd were part and parcel of a scheme to be cat lied out as the pilicy of the Government, and as it affected ilie credit of the colony lie was anxious to develop the tcheme to the House as quickly as lion, members would permit him. Those were the only b\lls that Government had in contemplation to move, as hon. members in another place were* waiting for them. He trusted lion, mernlieis would undor these ciicuinsbances agree on the business to be undertaken to permit their being relieved from the usual trammels imjiosed upon the introduction of bills. The discussion was continued by Mr. T. Kcjsseix, ami Mr. Brai>don. Mr. Gillies objected to the suspension of the whole of the btau.lingXndera, as he considered it would nob be dealing jitatly by the colony to say that within four hours after three most iin|iortant v bills had been put into the hands of hon. nvmbers they should be asked to pass them, — three most important bills involving the saddling their constituencies with fully one third additional duties on goods, and even fifty per cent in some cases. Mr. Pii-zGrrald «aid when the House was in committee they could accept or veject the proposition's to carry the lulls. They would then be in the better position of having heaul the statement by the Colonial Treasurer. > Mr. li. Wood trusted the House would not consent hurriedly to agree to the suspension v of the standing orders for the purpose of passing bills of such vast iinpoitance— and which could not possibly be understock by the hon. members in that house, fiom the shoit time they had been in their hands. Mr. FirzirßßßEiir said it was urgently necessary that 'the tariff bill should be passed that night, if Government business was to lie gob through before the adjournment. Mr. John' Williamson was opposed to the bill being pressed that night. Mr. C iitLin'ON thought it scarcely wise to postpone the consideration of the taiiff, for if the new rate of duty should become known, the receipts o£ Government v\ ould be seriously damaged from merchants taking articles from bond before the bill took effect. Mr. Reynolds agreed to the suspension of the standing outers to enable them to pass the Tariff Bill only. Mr. Wilson commented upon the insinuations th*t had been made with respect to lion, members desirous of leaving by the steamer I ' Airedale." He for one had no desire to leave, but had made arrangements on the understanding that he would not be at his home sooner than the 2Sth. He did not like to be obliged to listen to such insinuations, which he characterised an " diity " insinuations. Mr. Vooel hoped the Colonial Treasurer would give the remainder of his fyianciul statement that ni<*kt, so that it might be discussed on the next day. It was only fair and honest that the financial policy should be discussed before other measures were to be introduced and debated upon. Mr. Wkld thought the last speaker had rather an« ticipated the financial policy in his remarks, which he might lmvo reserved until after the "njiancial Statement was made. The Colonial Treasurer was not desirous to bring on that question, but he could not enter upon his \tatemeut without making ,iefev_ rence to the two njjlls that liaa been laid on the? table. All the Gmeinment desired was to ..placd"' 1 * their financial policy before the House, and did not sin ink fiom a manlr opposition, instead of tho clap trap in winch the hon. merabr-rs Jjad indulged in opposition to tho motion. y* 'A division took place, with the following result : — Ayes 34, nois ]. liefoic the iliviidou took place most of the Auckland membeis luft the House in a body. The Speaker said the "ayes" had it, but obseived that in older to suspend the standing orders two thiuls of the members ueie lequired to be present, which the lesiilt of the division had shown not to be the case ; and ho must therefore rule that the suspension of the standing oideia could not take place. At ten minutes past ten o'clock, the Speaker vacated the chair, and intimated that he would resume hi* seat in a quaiter of an hour. The House lesumcd at twenty minutes to eleven o'clock.

COMMITTEE OP SUPPLY. Mr. (J.vnLETOtf brought up a lesohition from the Committee of Supply : " That in the opinion of this committee the hon. member (Mr. Fit/.herbert) should have leave to bring in a bill to raise one million sterling by Tteosury biils." The lesolntion ws read a second time and agreed to Mr. EmHEHBEiiT moved that the bill be read a first time, and it was agreed to. The bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Fiiday.

SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDERS. Mr. "Weld moved the suspension of .standing orders, in older that the Taiiff Bill should be passed that night through all its stages ; and the bill for raising the rate of inteiest of the New Zealand Loan be lead a first time * Mr. Reynolds admitted the necessity of the tariff bill being passed throxigh its vaiious stages, and considered that it would be an injurious proceeding to obstruct its being bioiighfc in that night; but he could not understand the nejes^ity of suspending the standing orders for the other bill. _ # t Mr. Fit/Herbert said ho ha I no objection to withdraw blie latter pa.) t of the motion. The motion w.vs put and cairied.

COMMiri'KE OF SUPPLY. On the motion of Mr. Fitzherbert the House went into committee of supply to consider the tariff bill. — Mr Carletonin the chair. [We hold over the lemainder of the proceedings until tomorrow ]

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