PUBLIC WORKS DEPUTATIONS.

Auckland Star, Volume XIX, Issue 218, 15 September 1888, Page 4

PUBLIC WORKS DEPUTATIONS.

THE HON. MR rMITCHELSON

BUSILY ENGAGED.,;

Tse Hon. .Mr Mitchelson, Mibisfcer for Public Works, was again busily engaged to-day receiving.deputations at the naiinager'e room, Auckland Railway Station, j AUCKLAND DAIRY; ASSOCIATION.

The first deputation received was from the; Auckland Dairy Association, and included Messrs 0. B. Stone, Spragg and Fry. .-. •-,' ': ~- # / Mr Spragg said : that the object of the' deputation was to see ifiithp' Government would make ;a-concession on ■ the rates charged bn the conveyance of cream from the creameries, and on milk in, the immediate vicinity of creameries to points on the railway, for conveyance: to Auckland. ' Owing to the very small sum of money it was ] possibly, to: give for milk, it was the desire of the Associatioirat once to advance ihei prico they had agreed upon with;the farmers. The idea was that a conceasibnshould be made to enable Fthe Association to get cream to Auckland."at prices the same as if they ,made the butter where the cream was produced. Itwasifound impossible in summer; weather to manufacture butter, in these' places,, a,great deal of. butter being, de-; atroyed owing to the inability of .fcettlers to; handle the t butter in , hot weather. ;The; Association ~ overcame this difficulty by? bringing the cream to the freez'i ing chambers here. Mr Spragg urged* that it was necessary to ; make this conces-: sion for the benefit of the settlers, who! would otherwise be.dfcarved'but of ihe busi-j ness.' The 'Association would' gi^e;the; whole saving on the freight back to the; settlers; and expected to'rnake no ihcreasedi profit directly.; ' •' "' .„, ; Mr Mitchelson.: Yoa want the colony, tb carry the^cream.'at. a loss to' benefit the settlers, do you iiot ? But I look at it from a revenue pom of view. v _ r Mr Spragg said there was a disposition; on the part of the Government to foster this business to every extent— (Mr :Mitchelson :: YesJ^-and -he ' understood. thafr bonuses were to be offered for several classes of this" business. The price paid; to the settlers wae2^d pei} gallon for milk and; it was not sufficient to enabiethem to liveMr Mitchelebn i It isabsurd to expect thb Goyernment to carry cream at. the Baine rate, as they carry butfsr. ■■■.: - ; Mr Spragg' pointed out thai) the ■ result , would be an increase, of production, whicjbi | would ibenefit the colony at large. _ I Mr Stone :We do not ask this concession as a Company, but to apply to1 all sefctlers over the whple colony. Mr Fry: I it would be looked ; upon as a bonus to some;extent. ■■■'■■ I Mr Mitchelson : If the desiie is to obtain a bonus the proper course is fcb ask the CrOj yernment for a bonua. - " -Mr Spragg said that theiAssociation considered tho claim of the settlers on> the Government to foster this business warranted them in v€xpecting somo concession. -MriMitchelsoueaid.it was very easy to say that the matter Would be conisidered, but it w.aa useless 1» Bay. so unleas; to say that the.Goverhmenfc would consider it wibli ■i the object ofi giving.l to : settlers 'relief in come way. The railways throughqub New Zealand were: not returning <"as^ much as people expected, and; the.Government, was endeavouring to obtain as1 much revenue as possible without hardly upon the people. ■■■-~■■■■ ■ .■ . .'...'if--mi. - J-MrSpragg i : The presoht rate issuch. Mr Mit^elsop :,;150 you think so? Ib lib," butter, and you could not expect them to be carried; for theisame price.:: :. : < After soms further argument) Mr Mitchelson Raid the Government &&$ every dssira to foster the cheese and butter industries; so much so ,that they were about to ., bring out from England: one of the greatest experts of the present day; lie exr' pectpd this expett would "leave England for the colony - in abouij a' iriouthi' 'He added that if Mr Spragg would place what he had stated'in writing, he (Mr MitcheUsbn) would bring it before the Goyernment.: He could:noc, "however, hold out any hope of the concession asked for. ! The deputation expressed their aclcnow-. leiilgmenfcs arid withdrew. ' ' :SITE FOR THE NEW KEFUGE. The next deputation introduced tab sub-, ject of the new refuge site and the prppcw«al to utilise the Hospital sito. : The deputation inbluded' Mesßrs 0;! Mays, W.;l\ Buokiahd, J; B. Russell, A. Bell, E. Cooper. Crowther; Bturges, Fleming, W. IV J. Bell,( and Colonfel Haultain.., , : ' Mr Mays' ' eaiU :'.thkt: the object of the , deputation was to draw attention > to; a movement on the;;parfc" of the'Gharitable'Aidßoar4;to have the Refuge erected on the Hospital site. There was _a; .very strong feeling on this matter, and it; .had become so pronounced that two mem-; bersofthe Board -had; reigned. "The position was' now; 'that (he Government had asked by the public trustee tp consent to the erection of a Refuge alongside of tho Hospital. : Tho.. solicitors .of the Board ■sbme time ago. advised them that not only would the consent of the Public Miriieter hive to be .obtained, -but that legislative action would have to be taken.; to permit the. Refuge to be placed there. A v^ry large party in the town as well as inthe- Bftard considored that; this [Jaliena-1. tion of trust was very undesirable.: The site was only 12 acres in .extent, andL only, half of that was ; available, for building upon. It wos not as if the Board had noi : funds or no other site; : The Board had two; ' sites^'•one at Ellerslie and oho at Epsoini'! There:had:been some talk,of. having certain 1 imbeciles removed : from the Buriatic Asylum to the Refugo, and it was undesirable to have these people in close .pfomixity. to the Hospital. Further ;additibns^ould ; be r'eduired to be made to the Hpspifcal.to: provide a maternity ward, a medical man's residence, aschool of anatomy, and^o : •' on. The* only arguineb'ti ''against^ : the. placing of the Refuge alrEllerslie^qr Epsom,; related to;the medical.supervision1 of-the old people, bwt> he' {Mr Mays) dia.•"irtrt Mb 4

any difficulty in s*s^?5 *s^? j matter o( p«r»,™u" ,f" «««?! cortain amount of nt Qoabt JW, but thw WUBa "r y» lnd^| parifion with th* /• » Daterh<i Hospital and Jh ih^'"^t^ £fSS§p§ n other colonies ,t l^P*rf& have refuges close to 2 wf:fe^v of the best-regulated 1^ tar* .' with sorao 7% inlfffuß<a '*%£ miles from-Sydney. 8* « that institution y,t Jf w!lt)lo men, who mwKSr^T* b? everyday. Tho SJS?ferl^s the present cost of the aZu ?*M Mr Bucklatul endowed tfm • I previous speaker. He fc^J matter from v janSSiJ t* u^l llMfl Mr A. Bell said that ho «»'• I vicmity of the Refuge, £Sgß3 perience. ...He urged WthVelfc new refuse on tho Ho.pitalrSS5' and as entirely free from any infa^ self interest. He poT^dlJfe Hospital sue was an near aeiSl where tie centre of the city ev?^ tufHy» and objected stron4i al utilised for a refuse. He would J see cattle running unoa fc .JJ tie heritage of our children d.vS the purpose for which it waa iniJS , objected to have the workhouse £^ prominent object in the city, anfhi old people kept in an unsightly fab! on the Hospital grounds! 1& it> that no man had a ri-rht to be poet i! countiy, and that tJiose who weroonsL be placed away from temptation. ■• Mr Mitchelson said it yr&a i'tviMi that the Board had not beea *blsti! with thematterwithoutßeckiu£theiiitoi tion of the Liovernment He bad a half of tho Colonial Secretory, %« the several sites referrea ■ to, and bit i servation made liim iaclined-to thint|J the Hospital site was the most tuitable many respects. ■If would .eniUe | friends of unforluiiat^a \aux«. a ; Refuge to pay periodical vieiu to :V and the inmates would also bo ia 6 proximity to the -.floepitol, :Tb there was not only theretidentfurgeob,! also the visiting ctatl. For saiiatory no's the.' Hospital site was'undbibifeily.'tie '& Botli at Ellerslieand One Tree iJi^i as ho had observed;' ths'drJiaage^il ■be exceedingly bad.;' i.Tiifittt^waaI'ii9 the absence of Tva^r^'ito'io'ii.ii.-.t^il sites were no venf'patf o-o from the railway '&&. , He-^l inclined, notwithstaDdSj-Vm \s-A >*w stated, to believe vat 'pi^^iiJl serve would undouhtodly.-l* itie pra;ei place to erect tbis.builditig ifUwerepn in a temporary way, osly tobeuswlcrr fu-je patients solongaauicreiaicltosiiffi dation was nol> required £jrJii>jj!slfv I >ose-«. That wou Id mean thfctiiabiiragn erected on tha Hospital/grouiidjor &d Uj Men's Refuge it should'be; oonstrucieda such a way that it ouuia bt asediltu wards for Hospital purport nwieiL S would forward tho' iDformition he mi tamed to tho Colo;_iiiil tietarctary, who vcj, also have in formation gathered by Dtk Gregor, and the -evidence, brought, a ward both for and ugdiDbt.the pw» ,He did not think tho,Government t* .any particnlar erection of thia building |n'fte;/i»W objection from the majority, of:tto.wwj of the city. As far as the PoWlo W was concerned, he iMr Mitelietoj^ informed . that he had alrejay.-» tioned the erection of tin W,( tho Hospital grounds, Pcrioaallywl no interest ia the', matter, and up* return to Wellington ho woula *) -■-, MrHislop tho statements »mdc. tie^notin.nny way atteraptcfl-wi»«». decision. I ~' ~ .^.w Mr Mays hero mentioned ™W boon undea- somo misundorstaudinj, the action of Messrs Ciowfher indWF in'waiting upon tha Minister «. to ject. HonowguthcreathwtbcjMJJ so at the invitation oi.wo w Secretary. , , ... .«« Mr Mitchelson eaid that ncith «V* Crowther nor Cooper had attempt" fluence him in any way. , , ( MrMay ß^idth.t.all^^g that the matter/honld bo tell o-'ir atho annual election on the m m. .. Mr Crowther.said these staWW^ Mr Mays were very oue-.^eo. w ; six member* cl the IJuJd "J^ diferent views, and h P did not to« elections would alter B'l^ , Mr Mays: Someof,theitt|M their minds during "eJ car> nfl . r hepe« ~ Mr Crowther: At'^'^^i,-, time ia very fur ofl when tfogjjj ( b^heided in a stockyard, saj^ an ugly hi«h fence, and herded Wf3r Russell: NoLhin,onh^ said.MrCrouthcr.andituap^ P, impertinence on your pu fc! a thin-. I suppose that «.w» l.i-,.{.; your stables. -..'men lift** ' Mr Crowther: IWW*Z?i* and treat them like &f^ ,« hadtheminmyKrvce^S^ Mr Ruseell: WeU.it unow , words with a man Hko J" v- ki a uofc to make statements .f^-gM arc crossly false. 1 nowr «* -^ atou^t heaiing the old'people >»« .J yaS Crowther: Well, they^ tbafc «ffeot anyhow. ; - This little breweMgi^/^ deputation thanked J.»H| courtesy and retired..' ~. THE MIRANDA COAL.C"^, The third and^aepug^ Messrs R. C. Barstow, l: uiiit&&3 Fullon, waited c pen '^ »fl jevenuc from Mirantia - vi deii^ y'earfortbe extra purged that the'l^yirf^ similar siding andjg* not J. ; -thi:jg| ■Mr Hudson **id. Smlll Reserve siding was » 6r3 ; i^-g|| Pril? Mitchefson P^l^ffiajgH into tho matter, and g»ve v ' J