PROVINCIAL COUNT

Southland Times, Volume 3, Issue 102, 16 October 1863, Page 4

PROVINCIAL COUNT

WEDNESDAY, I4th OCTOK Moenixg Sitting. Upon the motion of Mr.Cowan, Mi at 11 o'clock, took the Chair as Spa the day. CLERK TO THE COUNCIL. The SPEAKER iead a notice fi Honor the Superintendent, of Mr , resignation as Clerk to the Council, JdrW.H. AylmerV.appointment totk; MINUTES. The minutes of last sitting were re confirmed. NOTICES OP SIOTIOX. By Mr COWAN— To move, "For! bring in a Bill intituled the Collegi: dowments Bill, 1863, at the evening sit To move, " Education Rural Reserv 1863, at evening sittings." To move, " The Education Bill,V evening sittings." : (j^ PETITION. ■ Mr 110 WELL presented a petition by 2GG inhabitants, praying that a line be constructed from the Oreti 1 to liiverton. The petition was iead and laid on tl Orders of the Day. cemeteries bill. Mr M'KAY moved the second rea thi3 Bill. Mr TAKLTON said he had somei to make about the Bill." He would i " That there be an instruction to th mittee that the eight last words in the clause be deleted, and that certai words be substituted." He was opp giving power to the Superintendenl aside particular •paits of a public cc for particular sects. He did not bel di awing lines of demarcation betwe dead. A broader Christian view ougl taken. The 'lOverriinent had brought Cemeteries' Bills in the same narrow following their idea, every denom must have a burial ground of its own Mr COWEN explained on the par Government, that the Bills had been deal based upon an application from tt coj)al body. Episcopalian clergymen d to consecrate ground in which men other forms .of belief were buried, fence -would be the only dividing mar The PROVINCIAL TREASURER that the Bill applied a good deal to lands. . . - „ , Mr TAJtLTOJJjeould >6t understa present lands should riot be mainly cons He had again to set forth that the evei discords, which hadmade the name of i harsh, ought not: to ; be carried even dead. Again, he did not' see h Superintendent,, as^. Trustee of Cen for general purposes, could convey dually. : Herteiiedany member in the to give him an answer. ,; Mr WILSON fully endorsed the vi the last speaker.' 5 : Mb Tarfton's imbtion having been p House divided. . iTheAyes, and Noes been found equal, the Speaker, gave his vote for the Ayesj.and- the motion was The House thert went into Commitfe the Bill, and thereaf ter the'Ghairinan i piogress. ;. :;r,-n*: ; .;. ,/;;/..,.;*. iODGINO-HOySE -SILL. Mr .COWAN!m6ved that jtWs Bill a second tiaie. "" It was one of tho likely to be required' a good deal-by at The PROVINCIAL JTREASUJII conded— -and, the motion was carried. The House then went into. Commit thereafter the Chairman reported pro] The third reading was appointed foi morning's sitting. - LICENSED. THEATRES' BILL. Mr COWAN moved that this Bill the second time i; and the Prbvincii surer seconded. Mr TARLTONthbught that this Bi to extefld to houses of entertainment s to public- houses, forthese houses reqi gulating. They were" a source of mud to' the young. . It was very difficult* reach them judicially, as "they were fr& not within t^e publicrliousej butremo^ yards to the back. "He^would issne bo whatever to a place attached in anyi public-housed ■' ; " '"" ''"'''- LlrOQWA^saia! that the BUI upon the points to which the honorafc! ber referred. ". ■ '■-. Mr T ARfiTQN cqnjtmue^that tl« of these libusea of entertMsimentwai much to affordagood 'dramatic feprese as to get people^ drinki^HeJiiadnot the Bill fully,; but he i^ thought that protection ci mbrali^ it jsltould be upon the "cla'ss'-bf libusei" ii&J^d alludi The PROVINCIAL vTREASUBI that it wasj itnpossible to shut^ip thes It had been, tried; yajuo r'' at home ; could . they >^^sH«t^ ; jheni ;iip . Jp.ublicl] would sall'be':*c^ii^ron^ : on';.the'sly. better to have'ilienPriif ithVy* ' pould he muchibetter/qdntrplled. l ? MrVT^B^pj^^ved-— '^that 'i that the subject might have fuller cbi

tibn;- the sHopse^'db tipt go intoT Committee upon t.he.Tfieatts Licensing Bill -till tp-nior-•row"i^rmng^ai^itiangsJ'?J; i^ 7 ~\ '.■[ ''' : 2<;"0;L "'■N-': * r The motion divas' carried. / . ; '. , ' ■•■ <■''■ " l ■ y ittEKSisa' Amendm ent : Biit; ■ : -. ; ■ ■ '! I '''■^'^WA^^moij^^^i^itiej Bill be* ■read a- second tiniei''' ;?:Viw^'v;-^';''-V* : ' - -' : " : II Mr TARI/rOJSs; mtiL that; this Bill was too-;! .Ul^al.4;:.T^iprpf^e.:b|estowaLof:HMn8 i e.s,had v : ] a most demoralising effect. . .v Jf Government il would ; Only; J .place;Teßtrictipns upon this cus- i 1 • tpn)Vins'iead i .6f..lbin ; imgivupip'ecliarß'and-ha\v-.| kers, a ihucli' greater good would be done to« the public. '" ]The. province w^stuMed/wiih^ 3Jrdg ' 'snPps that were, .in many instances, ' .little better than brothelsjandthe law, such a¥it:\va9; seemed to/ be : : fearlessly evaded.' There 'were, ; many.cpjffee -shops, where -not . coffee; but the strongest brandy was s old. ■ j (Hear hear). ■■■■': T4ie r working nian; fatigued j with the labors, of : 4he; day, often spent his 1 family's earnings in such places. He might 1 •be able, shouldjie'-gpjnto a, bootmakers shop, to resist, the temptation.., of buying more than one pair of shoes at>«a tnre, but he could not go into a dram-shqp and content himself with one giass'of spirits. Man wassuch a. being : that when opportunities were afforded to him, he woiild'be surd to, more or less, gratify his passions. It was the business of a wise legislature to bring-in a Bill that would lessen "Uiese opportunities. ■ Mr BEAVEN said he quite agreed with Kthe last speaker. A 'Licensing Amendment Bill was presented to the House which did not amend at all. Tt would be far better for ./the province were the Government sto be ■stringent in Bills of this kind, than in those affecting pedlars and' hawkers. The Licencing Amendment Bill was a sham bill, The PIIOVINCIAL TREASURER in ■reference to the honorable member's statement, that this was a sham bill, would simply refer him to the preamble. On the abstract question of licensing, his opinion was, that *iv spirits, as >in everything else, there should be free trade. That members, however, ■ might look into the .Bill more particularly, he -would move "that its further consideration ..beadjourned toto*rnorrowmorning'ssittings." The motion was carried. The. House was. then (11 o'clock) adjourned -to .7 p.m., ana the Speaker left the Chair. EVENING SITTING. »The Speaker took the Chair at 7 p.m. MOTIONS. v Mr COWAN moved—" for leave to bring in »the Collegiate Endowment Bill, 18G3, and briefly explained it? purpose." The PROVINCIAL TREASURER seconded, and leave was granted. The Bill was, upon further motions, read t'le first time, and the second reading appointee 1 for to-morrow morning's sittings. Mr COWAN, in reference to the Educational Rural Reserves Bill, mentioned that he would not bring it forward to-night, as it had iint come down from the printers. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER moved " that action in this bill be deterred to tomorrow morning's sittings." The motion was carried. Mr COWAN -brought ia the Diversion of Educational Keserves Bill. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER seconded. Upon further motions, the Bill was read for the first time, and the second reading appointed for to-morrow morning's sittings. ! OKETI BAIT- WAY BELL ADJOUBNED. Mr TAKLTON moved, and Mr BEAVEN seconded afurther adjournment to to-morrow morning. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER then •read from the Extiaordinary of the >Invercargitt 'limes some particulars as to Dr Hector's explorations. Thereafter, the -House adjourned at 7-30 p.m., to 11 o'clock to.morrow, and the Speaker left the Chair. THURSDAY, 15th OCTOBER. Morning Sitting. Mr MfSTab was moved into the chair, as for the daj-, at 11 o'clock. NOTICES OF MOTION. By Mr M'Kay — •" To move, at the even.ing's sittings,. that a respectful address be presented to his Honor the Superintendent, praying him to place a sum upon the Estimates for the erection of a lighthouse." The PROVINCIAL TREASURER said ;that a sum was already on the Estimates for rthe erection of a lighthouse on Dog Island. Mr M'KAY, in that case, would withdraw his notice of Mr <TARLTO.N said he understood that lighthouses -were under the control of the General Government. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER replied that -the JProvince, however, -had to build 'them. By the Treas t jker — " To ask leave -to bring in a Bill, afr the evening's .sittings, intituled 'The .Educational Endowments Bill.'" ;_ By Mr Tarxton— To move at the evening's sittings, "That the Town Board be empowered 'to ; raise a loan under the 'Town 03oard Ordinance, 18C3.' " By Mr Tarlton — To move •' That an in- . retraction be given to the adjournpd Committee on the Licensed Theatres Bill, that •clause 3 be erased, and that there be inserted•a clause enacting that no licence shall be ..granted to any theatre attached vto a publicihouse; and that the sale of liquors wilhin.the .theatres be prohibited." Orders of the Day. constabulary bill. f Mr COWAN moved that this Bill he read a second time, explaining at the same time that its aim was the better control and •management- of the constabulary. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER seconded. The House then went into Committee, tind thereafter the Chairman reported progress. The Licensing Amendment Bill and the •Collegiate Endowments Bill were then read a second time and passed through Committee, and the third reading appointed for to-morrow morning's sitting. The Educational Rural Reserve Bill was aread for the first time, and the second leading appointed for the evening sitting. The Diversion Education Reserve Bill was, .upon the motion of the PROVINCIAL TREASURER, read a second time, passed through Committee, reported, and the third reading appointed for to-morrow morning's sitting. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER moved the adjournment of the Licensed Theatres Bill to the evening, and the motion was •c irried. The House was .then adjourned to 7 p.m. EVENING SITTING. Tlie Deputy-Speaker took the Chair at a quarter-past seven. I NOTICE -OF MOTION. Mr BEAVEN gave notice that at next meeting, he would move — " That in tlie opinion of this Council it is expedient for the pioper conduct of the affairs of the Town of Invercargill, that the Town Board Ordinance be repealed, and the Municipal Government

of the Town vested in a Corporation, which snail comprise a Mayor, Aldermen, and Councillors, with all powers of judicature and administration usually pertaining to such bodies, in the United Kingdom; and that a respectful address be transmitted to his Honor the (Superintendent that he may be pleaded to cause the necessary Act of Incorporation to be prepared-and submitted to the General Assembly of New Zealand, at its next Seesion." Leave was granted. THEATRES BILL. Mr TAKLTON moved— "That an instruction be issued by this House to the Committee on the ' Licensed Theatres Bill, 1863,' to erase from f such Bill clause 3, and insert in its stead, a clause which should make a provision that no license shall be granted to any Theatre in any way connected with any house iv which spirituous liquors were sold ;

to provide for the prohibition, uuder.penalty,of the sale of any spirituous liquors within any such Theatre, or place in which such plays or other such- entertainments are ipresented." : f Mr TARLTON supportea His r motion on: .' the ground of sobriety and morality being i thereby secured. Mr. BEAVEN seconded the motion. . The PROVINCIAL TREASURER defended the Bill as proposed by Government. Mr WILSON supported the motion, and •Mr ROGERS opposed it. " Mr TARLTON replied. .- On a division, tliei;e voted for the motion — Ayes, 5.; Noes, 6. The motion was accordangly lost. "THE TOWNOBOARD. Mr TARLTON jnoved— " That the Town Board be authorised to raise a loan under the.provisions of the Town Board Ordinance, 1863." He said that arty gentleman, looking at the town as it is, would agree with him in saying that it was.a matter of impopfeance to make it a town fit for human beings to live in. He was doubtful if the powers of the Town Board were at all equal to what was' wanted. After some further 'remarks, he concluded by proposing the motion. Mr BEAVEN seconded the motion, which was agreed to, and the second reading poiuted for to-mcr.-ow. ♦ LICENSING ORDINANCE.. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER&sked leave to bring in a Bill entituled "an Ordinance to amend the Licensing Ordinance, 1853, and the Licensing Amendment Ordinance, 1854." Leave was granted, theßill read a first time and the second reading appointed for tomorrow iruraing. TUB O:tKTI RAILWAY BILL. Mi- TAKLTON rose to present a petition on the BiU* The petition was from the inhabitants — merchants, tradesmen and others of the town, in public meeting assembled hist night, — and their opinion was in opposition to any deviation of the proposed line, and their support in favor of the direct line The meeting had affirmed its opinion in the utmost deference to council, yet at the same time, its firm conviction was, that the line proposed by Governmexit was the best, lie concluded by presenting the petition. The PROVINCIAL TREASURER moved that the petition bo received. Mr COWAN seconded the motion, which was agreed to. Mr TAKLTON moved that the petition be read. Mr COWAN seconded, and the motion being agreed to, the C.erk read the petition as follows. To the Ucnorable (he Speaker and Members of the Provincial Cou'icil of the Province of Sjut'iluiKl and Colony of New Zealand. Tlie Meinori.il of the inhabitants of the Town of Invercargill and Province o) Southland, in public meeting nssernlil''d, llpmisly Shkweij : Ist. That your memorialists highly approve of a lice of railway to Winton Bush, so as to facilitate communication with Lake Wakntip, which must tend to the increase of trade, and *o the advancement, both socially and politically, of the Province of Southland. 2nd. That your memorialists approve of the line suggested, and the plans thereof; prepared by the Chief Surveyor, and recommended by the Government of thi3 Province, and your memorialists consider that any deviation from the line as proposed by that officer would prove detriinentni to the credit and interests of the Province of Southland. 3rd. That with a view to securing to the Province, through i s principal ports, such a share of the business and trudu \\itk and to the Lake Wakatip as its geographical position and proximity thereto so justly warrants, your memorialists :ire of opinion and consider it expedient that ynur Honorable Council should accept the line and plans tlint ore proposed mid submitted to vouv Council by Ihe Ciiief Survpvor of this Province: and that the necessary Ordinances to enable the G' VGinment to proceed in the formation awl eo:islructi' n of such line of railway shon'd be at once passed through your Honorable Council. ■4th. Tuat whilst y >ur memoria isls have every desire for the advancement and prosperity ot Wallaeetown, they consider that a deviation in the proposed line of railway in the direction thorenf, would not only involve a considerable increase on the cost thereof and in crease "f dis ance, but in the adoption by your Honorable Council of such deviation, 3 - our memorialists consider that a delay of at least twelve months in the construction and completion thereof would necessarily ensue ; a delay which would involve the total loss to South land of the advai.tagi-s accruing from the trade with the Lakes, as well as teud to check the increase of population from abroad, which would materially depreciate the value of property, and in every way iin ede the advancement and prosperity of the Province of Southland. Your memorialists therefore pray, That your 1 Honorable Council will bo pleased to consider fuvorably the construction of a line of railway from Invercargill to Wiuton Bush, and the adoption of the plans thereof proposed by the Chief Engineer of the Province of Southland ; and, secondly, that ywiir Houoi'uble Council will pass such Ordinance or Ordinances as may be necessary to c mble the Provincial Government of Southland to form and construct such line of railway before next winter. And your memorialists, as in duty bound, will ever pray. Signed, for and on behalf of the memorialists, Dukcan jVlcAetjiuk, Chairman. Mr SPEAKER thought the petition should not be brought bofore the Council, as the document was signed by only one man. Mr TARLTON contended that when one man, as chairman of a public meeting 1 , siyned a petition, it should be effective. The meeting in question had been an unanimous one, and the petition was signed as from the meeting. Mr ROGERS said he would trouble the House with but few remarks on the question. He 'believed honorable members were generally in possession of his opinion, boi-h on the policy of the Bill, which he fully accepud, and also of his reasons for disagreeing on a matter of detail in carrying out his policy in the Bill, and in which he was supported by a majority of the House. Be had hoped, until then, that the Government would have acceded to the clearly-ascertained wishes of the majority of the House on this point; but as they would not, sooner than the Bill should be withdrawn, lie would refrain from any further opposition to any matter in any of the clauses of the Bill .; not because there was any alteration in his opinion of cenain details in it, but tlrinking that it was a measure of such importance that it must be carried, and that the honorable members of the Government being fully aware of this, had used this ku>>wledge to have it earned their own way. He would add, that it was his opinion that parts of this Bill, instead of being passed with the advice and consent of the Provincial Council, were actually against the advice, or rather with the enforced consent of the Council. He felt it useless to offer I any further opposition for these reasons. Perhaps he should only do harm by so doing. The honorable member then left the House. Mr WILSON moved that the House go into Committee to receive further evidence from the Chief Surveyor. The House went into Committee, and Mr Heale was again examined by Mi Wilson and Mr M'Kay. The fifth clause was agreed to, and the third reading appointed for to-morrow morning's silling. LICENSED THEATRES BILL. This Bill was read a second time. The House went into Committee, and the several clauses wore passed serialini. Progress was reported, and the Houso resumed. NOTICES OF MOTION. By the Provincial TiiEASUiiua — '' That at to-morrow morning's sitting he would ask leave to bring in ;i bill intituled, 'An Ordinance to authorise the raising of LIIO.OUO by the sale of debentures, to defray the expense of constructing a railway between the f own of Invercargill and Winton, in the Provincu of Southland.' " By the Provincial Treasurer— "That at to-morrow morning's sitting he would move

for leave to bring ia a bill intituled, 'An Ordinance to provide for the appropriation of the snm of LllO.OOO) to be raised by the authority of the Loan Ordinance,. 1863.' " By Mr Wilson, " That at to-morrow morning's sitting, he would move for a resolution of this House, that a line of railway be constructed from Riverton to the main north line of railway, at the eailiest practicable period of time." The House adjourned at 10 o'clock.