NO-CONFIDENCE DEBATE COLLAPSES.

Horowhenua Chronicle, 12 September 1935, Page 6

NO-CONFIDENCE DEBATE COLLAPSES.

*> Amendment Defeated by 35 to 27 SIX OTHERS VOTE WITH LABOUR (By Telegraph —Press Association.) WELLINGTON, Last Night. In the House this afternoon the Ad-drcss-in-Reply debate was resumed by Mr W. E. Barnard (Napier), who urged the need for increasing the population of New Zealand. He said the decline in the birth rate in the last four years was accentuated by the Government's repressive policy, but that was not the only factor contributing to the decline. There were others. An increase in population would enable more of our primary products to be consumed in the country, it would encourage the development of secondary industries and it would mean more would be contributing to the national wealth. A larger population, too, would give added security against any menace from an outside Power. The population should be increased commensurate with the national resources. At this stage the discussion on Mr M. J. Savage's no-confidence amendment unexpectedly collapsed, and on a division being called for the amendment was lost by ou to 27. The division list was as follows: —

Against Amendment Ansell Maemillan Bitchener Macpherson Broadfoot Ale-Skimming. Campbell , Massey, J. N. Coates Jlassey, W. W. Cobbo Murdoch Connolly Nash, J. A. Endcan Ngata Forbes • Ransom Hamilton Reid Hargest Smith Harris Stuart, A. Hawke Sykes Henare Te Tomo Jull Wilkinson, Kyj'e Wri^Sit Linklater Young McLeod For Amendment Armstrong Nash, W. Atmore O 'Brien Barnard Parry Carr Richards Chapman Eushworth Howard Samuel Jones Savage Jordan Semple Langstone Stallworthy McCombs Sullivan MeDougall Tirikatene '• McKeen Veitch Mason Webb Munro

Pairs. —For the amendment: Lee, Schramm, Coleman. Against: Field, Lye, Hoi'yoake. The debate on the main motion was continued by Mr A. E. Jull, who was opposed to the guaranteed price scheme. He said a? soon as the price was fixed the incentive for improvement was lost, and once that was lost produce began to deteriorate. He thought some alteration in the electoral law was overdue. He thought compulsory voting should be essential and a system of preferential voting introduced in the country. He thought the cities should have a system of proportional' representation with groups of five members. He contended that the big commercial interests in the cities were at present denied representation in the House.

Discussion in "The Lords" SLEEPING ACCOMMODATION FOR MEMBERS. WELLINGTON, Last Night. When the Legislative Council met at 2.30 the Address-in-Eeply debate was continued by Hon. T. Bloodworth, who said that while he would not condemn every action of the Government, tie thought its achievements were not such a.-; to warrant unstinted praise. He referred to Sir Alexander Herdman 's criticism and said that while he did not think it entirely fair it must bo taken notice of. Mr. Bloodworth criticised at length the Government's policy ana said that though there wore no personal dictators in New Z'ealand there were party dictators. Hon. D. Buddo" emphasised that it was only by trade that industries in different countries could be fostered He expressed appreciation at the successful issue of the meat negotiations and said they were no doubt, paving ths way to a permanent agreement. Cheap money was essential to farmers. Hon. A. Burns said that, owing to the return of ■confidence the Dominion was making a good recovery. The Government had been trying to increase building in the large centres and he urged that, the completion of Parliament Buildings w r as worth the consideration of Cabinet. He uttered a note of warning against over-subsidising buildings as it would result in a drift of people to the towns. He expressed the hope that the Government would consider making arrangements for the sleeping accommodation of members and also urged the Government to consider the establishment of State sweepstakes. He suggested that a reduction in the unemployment levy was badly needed. The debate was adjourned and the Council rose at 4.25 p.m.;

Proposed New Legislation WELLINGTON, Last Night. An extension of the law relating to the restriction of rents will be effected by the Rent Restriction Bill which was read a iirst time in the House to-day. The,Bill will continue the existing law in operation until October 31, 1936. Another Bill introduced to-day was the Products Export Amendment Bill which will provide tor adequate control of the timber export industry in view of the increase in trade. It will extend the provisions of the principal Export Control Ac f . to include timber.

The Commercial Trusts Amendment Bill is designed io restrict price-cutting in certain classes of proprietary goods. Authority for rabbit boards to deal in materials for the destruction of rabbits is contained in the Rabbit Nuisance Amendment Bill introduced in the House to-day. Doubt has been raised as to the powers of rabbit boards to purchase for the purpose of resale direct to farmers poisons such as strychnine, phosphorus, carbon bi-sulpludu, and other goods such as ammunition for the purpose of the destruction of rabbits. The purpose of the Bill is to remove this doubt and to validate the action of the boards in so dealing in poisons or other goods in the past.'

The Law Practitioners Amendment Bill introduced to-day provides for the setting up of a disciplinary committee to deal with ail breaches of discipline by legal practitioners and to nave power to impose suspension or strike a member off the rcils. Members will have the right to appeal to the (Supreme Court. The Bill also seeks to make it necessary for a solicitor before commencing practice on his own account to have throe years' experience with another linn. The removal of anomalies in the existing law is the object of the Mental Defectives Amendment Bill introduced to-day. The Bill exempts hospital doctors and honorary assistants from the provision which prevents partners from certifying as. to the mental state ot the same patient. Wider powers of inspection of mental institutions are provided for and authority is also given the Director-General of Mental Hospitals to extend the benefits of short paroie to criminal patients who liovu proved themselves of good conduct. A clause indemnifies medical men from vexatious litigation after certifying mental patients.

The Masseurs Registration Amending Bill is designed to allow properly-quali-fied nurses and medical men to practice actino-therapy (healing by rays and lignt). Nine Permanent Judges The appointment of nine permanent puisne judges instead of eight, and an alteration in the personnel of the Court of Appeal bringing the Chief Justice on to both divisions are provided for in the Judicature Amendment Bill introduced in the House to-day. The necessity for the increase in the number of judges arises from the appointment of Mr. Justice Johnston as Judge of the Court of. Review of mortgagors' liabilities while he continues to hold office as a Judge of the Supreme Court. A conse- i quential amendment provides that while any Judge is absent or unavailable to sit in the Court of Appeal the constitution of the two divisions of the Court will remain as at present —that is to say, each division will consist of five Judges. When, however, all the Judges are available to sit, provision is made to permit of the appointment of six Judges ( o one of the divisions. This is necessary for the continuance of the established rule by virtue of which the Chief Justice is a member and president of each division. Safety at Sea A Bill giving legislative effect to the international convention for the safety of life at sea and the international convention on load lines was introduced in the House to-day. The Bill authorises the Governor-General-in-Council to make the necessary regulations to bring the seven conventions into operation. Details are not contained in the Bill. The Minister considers that this is the better method in this case although legislation by Order-in-Council is sometimes objected to on principle. The regulations may prescribe the fees to be paid in respect of ships' surveys or the granting of certificates and may also fix panalties for a breach of any regulation. Whaling With the object of conserving the whole of the stocks in the water under New Zealand control the Whaling Industry Bill will give effect to the International Whaling Convention of 1931 of which New Zealand is a signatory. It is necessary for the New Zealand Parliament to pass this legislation so that the convention will have complete effect. Whaling operations in the Dominion territory are small but NewZealand has a very definite interest in the industry because of her administration of the Ross dependency. The Bill follows closely the provisions of the Whaling Industry (Regulation) Act which was passed in 19.J4 by the British Government and that Act expressly extends New Zealand's authority to pass legislation having extra-territorial operation in giving effect to the convention. At the present time the only statutory provisions affecting the whaling industry are contained somewhat inappropriately in the Fisheries Amendment Act, 1912. It is proposed to repeal these provisions while saving the rights under existing licenses. The provisions of the Bill will apply only to whalebone or baleen whales. Certain classes of whales will be protected. Whaling-ships and whale oil factories will require to be licensed and whale' fishery inspectors will be given certain powers while penalties will be pre- ' scribed for the pollution of public waters. The Government will be cm-

powered to issue regulations from lime to time. When the House resumed at 7.:•!<) Mr \V. J. Jordan (M-.uiakau) denied the charges that the loader of the Opposition was saying one tiling m town and another in the country. He quoted portions of the address Mr (Savage delivered at Auckland in support of his contention. t Unemployment Minister Heckled Hon. S. G. Smlui, referring to the meeting at Auckland which clergymen addressed, and to which Mr Jordan had made reference, said he was of opinion that the clergy had been captured by the political campaigners of this country. * Dealing with the speech made by Mr .Savage, lie said the origin of the Labour party was discontent with the Liberal Government. He referred to the Labour party conference at Wellington in 1909, when the party favoured the Conservatives in preference to the Liberals. He claimed that Mr

Sample's indictment last regarding tho unfortunate'woman with six ! children was an indictment not of the I Government but of the Wellington Hospital Board. -Mr Smith was subjected to considerable interruption and the Speaker threatened he would have To. ask some lof the members to withdraw if they continued to interrupt. Mr. Smith exhibited a blanket which he said was a sample of those issued to the unemployed. It" he could trace the blanket produced by Mr Semple back to the manufacturer he would put the matter right and make a statement to the House. He would do his best to see that the uneinprtfyed were not exploited and assured Mr Semple that if he gave the name of the man to whom the blanket was issued the man would not be victimised. He went on to give details of th..e. iinprove-

meats to the unemployed since August L 1934. Mr Smith, referring to Mr McComb's speech, defied anybody to mention any country that had douomore for the unemployed teachers than New Zealand. In conclusion, Mr. Smith, said for the last four years Labour had had the platform to themselves,. They had been unchecked and unchallenged. He wished the members of his party could receive the same treatment. JJe claimed that no other Government could, point to the same success as oc, present Government. Wherever there had been a Labour Government in power there had been failure. Labour voices: Queensland! Mr. Smith: Yes, Queensland, liesaid the Labour Government there borrowed £5,000,000 anil started IS Stale industries, everyone of which had been> a failure and had been abandoned. lie elaimed that if New Zealand had had a Labour Government during the crisisthe eoii'itry would now have had a receiver in. A Democrat Defender. Mr. W. A. Veitcii f , rit ,. cised the excessively high taxation (hat ruled to-day and said it was lur«*e!v responsible for the present state")/ the country. The conditions under whickmany people were living today werevery unsatisfactory, yet tie Minister said he had no more money to do anything more. Mr. Smith: 1 never said that!

J Mr. Vcitcii .said the people had paid I their money willingly, thinking it kad I been usefully expended, but what would they say when they learned that the Unemployment Board was paying 1.0 per cent, of the cost of the new Wellington railway station. Mr. Veilch reviewed the events leading up to the formation of the National Government and said there was no justification for the continuation in office of the present Government. He said that the National. Party now represented about 15 percent, of the people and the Labour Party :J5 per cent.., leaving ,;n per ce „.|, of the electors of New Zealand who' were not represented by any party in the House. 'The reason why that stage was reached was that election after election the great landowners in control of the political situation had said: "You must vote for us, because if you. do not, you will get the Labour Party," and the fear of the other follow had caused the people to Keep the landowners' party in force far too long. Referring to the vote-splitting charges against the Democrat Party, Mr. Veitch said that he was sure that the Democrats would take far more votes from the Labour Party than from the National Party, but he said that the followers of Labour would vote for that party, the followers of the Democrats, vote for that party and the followers of the Government for the National Party. He said there would be no-vote-splitting and claimed that the advent of a middle party was justified. He considered that most of those who would vote for the Democrats would have voted for Labour if there h:ui been no Democrat party, lie deprecated the practice of delegating thepowers of Parliament to boards and said that such boards must cost the country a considerable sum. The debate was adjourned and the House rose.