POINTS FROM THE DEBATE.

Evening Star, Issue 14526, 30 November 1910, Page 4

POINTS FROM THE DEBATE.

[From Our Parliamentary Reporter.] WELLINGTON, November 30. Ah- Allen ; “The chairman was unbiased in his first hatch of charges, but lie had a bad dream.” An Hon. Alemher: “Devon say he was Biased ?” .Mr Allen; “Yes, I do. lie was blared in the second batch of charges. ’’ Mr Hunan :“I treated them as a Judge would have done.” Again Air Allen: Air Kaibau'.s case is much stronger than that against Mr ■Symes. 'Che Government must answer tor the item in connection with what 1 don't believe is a clean transaction. Tho Hon. J. A. Alillar; The amendment is only a specimen of wlial hart gone on all through tho Committee. They want a verdict on all points. . . . A specimen of Opposition tactics was allowing Dio present member for Rangitikci at a point of the contest to stand in the Opposition interest when he was in reality Alinisterial. The Symes purloined letter was the ugliest episode in public life lie had ever heard of. The public will hear of it from, every platform. ... In the three cares Air Soddenhonor nan assailed. It would he Die same if thcro were a hundred. . . If Die Government were guillv of corruption over the To Akau Block, tho Opposition were more corrupt, because of a suspected transaction on the Native Committee.' Wherever the Opposition take the platform over this business we shall bo right after Diem. ... W'by shall an embargo bo placed on those dealing with land on account of alleged corruption, when certain professional people have asked iur dealings with the Government for which they receive payment?—(Mr Alasscy: “By all means go the whole bog.”) . . • Neither the House nor the. ciapirv would give Mr Dine the verdict which "tho amendment, aimed at doing. Air T. E. Taylor: “Romo aspects of Ine Hine charges are more important than Die ascertained facts. The speech of the Lea-l'T of the Opposition was lame and impotent ; tliat of a we.ny man. . • • I lie D'-adiT of the Opposition was prepared I" slander half the members of the House in the interests of his party.” On the word •‘slander” being objected to Mr Taylor substituted “libel,” which had to be withdrawn. “Then Ik.ii. members must themselves supply the missing word,” the lion, member observed. “ . . . Air Byrnes was prepared to commit a corrupt ad, but failed to got a partner. . . . The Leader of tho Opposition was a little- disappointed that the evidence had failed to support the charge that Parliament had been degraded. I hGr constituents had already ])-, iii). d _ Mr Byrnes and Mr Alajor, and my ddim-alo judgment is that Air Kaih.iu : maid be called on to resign his scat. . . . Mi Allen had dragged tho Chief Justice into the turmoil of politics, insinuating that be had dono something unbecoming bis high office." While giving Mr Hine credit for courage, ho (Air Tayloi) declared that he was not alter Mi- Symes or Air Kaihau. He. was out after the Executive of the day. “ . . . The net result of the Hine charges was wholly disproportionate to the volume of innuendo levelled against the whole la-r----liament. While tho member for Stratford might be given credit for what he had done, he should apologise to tho House and to the Government lor slandering them. . The pamphlet which is being circulated throughout (he. Dominion in Inc hope of injuring (he Prime A! blister is approved by men who hope, it will acni'Ae -ns downfall, 'the, pamphlet has recei-.od encouragement from the Conc-ervatiyo Press, particularly the ‘Dominion, winch las printed unadulterated abuse. (Great dissent. and cries of “Stick to what you said.”) It was the spirit of Die Conservative Press which greatly encouraged suca publications. . . . Ibo Hine cbaiges had established Dio purity of Parliament rather than tarnished if.”—(Ministerial cheers.) , ... , Air Massey (on Afr Taylor); lie have beard similar characteristic <q ee.chos iron, (ho member for Glmstchurcly .\ortli. only Dus time- it was in defence of Dm Government. whereas on other occasions it was to condemn the man whose, hoofs he was imt fit to blacken. His whole political career shows him to bo a. ciiiao 1“ (be couiiiiy. 1 deny absolutclv that the Opposition were responsible for Dial wrct.Vd pamphlet. It- is absolutely false (o say we have had anything to do with it. it. :s purely published for profit, not for political advantage. If T net leave to publish what J know about tho member for Ciins-ic.iiuch \;r!iie con nection with a ccrlain .« live wars ag) I shall do so. but on the- public platform. Then there will be an end to Die hon. mem her politically.—Mr Taylor: Veil can use it if you likc.-i-Tbc Speaker; If the aiorher for Christchurch North continue. interrupt T shall bo obliged t-> name him. ... Mr .Massey; I dare Die Mim.uer of to i(wavs (O repeal on the plalfor.n wind- ho said to-nigh I. Ho will rusi }»• served with n. writ. No more eonfemptiliG. uiimamy. or cowardly tiring is imaginable than attacking dead men. Dees the Prime .'funster agree with me.?— Sir Jo.-.epll \\aid . have already raid so. The. only difference is what 1 said is trim: what you cai.-l about Air Seddon i.s untrue.--.Mr Massey quc-tci Sir J. G. Waid’i; relied ions ou Sir 11. At kinson and Sir 1-. Whittaker; ;U.-o fiom ‘ Taylor, on Tanunanyism ' in reference to Air Seddon. Mr Taylor; “I fought Mr Seddon to Ins fare. You are net man enough io do so.“ ■lUproar.)- —-Iho Speaker called on Mi Taylor to withdraw die expreision, which lie'did.---Mr Alaosey said he always fouglr Mr Seddon face to face. Men (said the Loader of the Opposition! had liean hung for less ihaa whn! had been proved in Kaihan's case. If the _ ■me Minister had not moved bis resolution L r legislation he. (Mr Massey) would have done 50...-Sir J. G. Ward: Bid p’li eouM not have rinded il.--(Lauglil-:-r.) • Mr G. W. Bnsse-ll: Mr flmo is the mmikev wlm pulled the OpiKsitioa chosnuts nut of'lhe tire. The Opposition will help him to pay Die e-ns!--. A RESIGNATION LIKELY, The debate on-the findings of the Hine Committee will be. eontinmxl this afternoon. when, the Prime Alinister will move that tbo House pass a vote of ceneuro on ITcnaro Kaihau, M.P., which, if passed, will neciw-itato that member handing in his resignation, in or{V-r to go before bis constituents and put tho matter in Uielr> hands.