MR. HINE'S CHARGES.

Dominion, Volume 4, Issue 989, 2 December 1910, Page 6

MR. HINE'S CHARGES.

I"! ANOTHER DEBATE IN THE HOUSE. J||;^/;WASJT ; UNFAIR? • USE OF THE CHIEF t-vp":; justice's letter. |gf:;s,-.'During-the concluding stages' of- -the li't:; : :,tiebate"on Sfr.'.Hine's charges yesterday jv;K^morning,vMr. Allen'. (Bruce), in the f: ; ; ; .;; joursei-of ';a speeoh, 'declared that Mr. ft. i'-'Hanan,' chairman. l of the Hino Committee, V/r v i:wl)iist.cxaniming. Mr.' Jennings in re-.''ji-8.t0d... to ;the. Symes letter charge, made fc;.;.: Vi an- Jiifair..use..'of'that/portion, of tho l^^'^iGMef/JusUcq's.letter to the Prime Minthe matter. Mr. Allen j.";, Misaid.. that' it wouid. U> recalled that the ft;'.. !:.'Ghief Justice, ih-his letter to the Prime f. t: : i:uffinister,' had commented' on the charge I'.-.!, vrelating to the letter as follows:—"Charge ;■■:.' ■■;.'Ai'-is- a : reflectio'n 'of the babblement of an flection .contest-•■.arid if -the, threats meni';..i.' -turned : ; were; made,'.\thoy were of a class I;- , . V,\'! that;'have';, no t;» so 'far. as I know,, been £-':...[made ■: the; subject of 'a Parliamentary H'^i -.;The person making the threat (.:>;.,•■■ iiwas' ; ;npc:at'->tli€vtime a member-of Parj ■;"•.» j'uament.":. lii addition,.; continued Mr. p.\'-;v); , Alleh,,tho-.Chief Justice had said' at tho j.-:V/- ,;;close~ ot'.his;letter: "L'.-mayadd that my .:.;,.;bfbther Judges. approve of this my reply jj'i-..; fitovy.our .letter.". Mr. Allen 'went on to i|Bay,-thafc''.wh*n Mr. Jennings was before :.-. : :'^the^committee, Mr.'Hanan put a quosjV•:,.•..- I tion,',wh.ich';;was;: wholly a reproduction • of j,:,:,. :-.-; the'Srst/extract 'from, the Chief Justice's ;■:::;■/ .>,letter. As-'a matter of'tost, the person fv- i'makjng.the threat was at the time a i.v-;.-;.;memb'er-,of Parliament. Mr. Hanan, he r.i;.,i;; .''declared,.; should - have' known it. His p:': an unfair •question/ and ho -',■;-: right to use a wrong statement ifcv. .''made'by .'the Chief Justice. • ', . '.}■;.. : Mr.'-'Hanan' raisedi the point that Mr. , fc?,v;>;;,Allen. : Jiad-'no. righ't'to' say that' he had i*V.iiCinade.;; a: statement Which: he , knew was I':?■.ii. ; .irrong.. .. : -..'.'.-,'•.■..':•'-,'■:■■"..' '■ ' te: Speaker, rilled'that Mr! Hanan had k , 5-".,,:.';a.rightto : , explain'.'. •..'.■ /'•,•■ ■•■.. 0;!;,'-''j;V,'Mr.'yHanan : then said' that' at the time ;'"'^.'-|ne." :, 'clid?not know'.: the was g r ; ;«;' ; *rongV '.;',, ..;.- : V;: 1; v .-; .••';.: ;',;■ |i-V. v v';:t; Another.-member: He" also put another l^.=':*i ! J!;qoestioii:-'-'..i;:.'....:-> : .V'-/ . '.-.-. ■■ ■■.. ■ ■ H'!. •■ ">ii.; Mr: ■.Allen:'-; Yes, 'that: is so? .The other It-..■■■-•■Question: was:'"Assuming that -he was S;;.:Via /member- of , ' Parliament, 'would . you' ;..-■■; \agree-;to/,the statement?" 'But Mo must pw v; insiststhat ■: Mr. '• Hanan■•• had no' right to .:v;-.-.;mnfairlymake use lof.'a wrong.statement ;;<;-.j;.:[by'..the Chief Justice.,-:, - ■ -, y.;,: House,yesterday"afternoon;' , Mr. should'have asked !:';■■ ■'■:' , .;Mr. lAHen , to i .accept • -Mr.' Hanari's assur•■^■/'::;::;en'ceVy.V'. :i '.;-- -■' >-'\%J: : '■':■:'■'.:■' ■■■/ ' " ".; . i^H I.am' always!'willing at-any iSi." '-.itime- unreservedly, to';-accept, the assur-J.?';.'-:;.'lance.iof. an hon. imernber, but I. was not t~.Z'*. last -night;.; that': Mr. : Hanan had |.\f/; , '-V!!P^™ ! 'Buca';aii;a_sspranoe'.' l -'.'-'' '. ;/,.V -. jL'-Mr. 'Allen,- continuing,'■-again Tead the (:;•« '-^Paragraph-of the'.Chief. Justice's letter to N:-;,;;!the J -Prunev J Mihister,\ in which he said i <Mr. Symes's letter tv:;,- -;.i: Abpu'ti bdvernme'nt'hdTßrtisements for" the p^ ;: ; :: i;Strattordv/Tost" ft was' merely "election fc..:-.'...','bapblement,' ? ;andi-thaf"the person-rnak-not at;the time a r,J;-:.;.V'inember, of Parliament. :■.;.;.- . . ; *.£:Several< members^complained that Mr. hV-i. rvfUen. lad: no right to; discuss. the matter, fe'^T.' : .,Dufche,was allowed-to proceed. ■ : XC{Mrv: Allen vthen r said that 'the fact was ;■'«•:•■ *■■ ithat- whenrMr. Symes's,' letter .was written liMyS^Parliamentvwas -etill .sitting,'and sat for !>*&■■ '™eiity*ix/days after that;- So that Mr. ; :~' : i s .y m es..w4sjstill an-MiP... The'-Caief Jus-j.-i.",'-;,l nce..nnd-:prejudged the case; - : ■ -■■'■ ;(Avori);rose ,to a'point of iri'S^^tiaep^r^-' ;■'■':', ''■:' ; ,V:. ?'■"■ " ''. • fi;;;:i'-*^?The;-.Speake'ry : said ■ 'that. Mr. Allen's '[.'■;,?■;.-'iirorda were a' on the Chief Jusi;.;}','4rKpe;O'!x.'i:-/ '■'■".*-;■.".?.■"'•■'■'.;■■ ■ V>i-.>'Vr-.Seyeiai : menberi: ' AVithdrawl "Apolo-!ijv"::-'-iPse'i',. 1 -'f-'''-:': : 'i'-''';.'"''-"'-■•■'■ /; " ■■ : - . ■,' iW-Ji^Mr.; and I'apologise.. J;.-;-J;';;' .ProceccUng,'; Mr.-;-.;AUen.-:said, that the" i!v■?.:'■■ ;:'.abpve.-..pafagrapli>-of. .the Chief Justice's [ ; ;;,-;.;-.iletter,was-read-:by<the chairman at a js-.;;:-.-.Vjeittin&. of the '-committee;-, and the wit-t,','•'■:-;?(^•VS.'wa? asked ; 'if>he,agreed -with-it. - I"' 1 ' ■■-'■?& ■'■ member -..There' wasVahpther. question r.■:':.'■■.:.>afterwards.':- -;''i;^, ;...•■ /.'.-•.■>;•■;■■• ■■-,-.. |~v v.::;. Mr. Hanan pointed opt thathe did not «=-■;'.<(:•-.•*?"■-'•^β;'witness Chief Justice fK ; .': ;.iwas.the;aUth,or: pf'.the words.."- He h'eld (; ; ;.'...''that i any ; .barrister-'might such j-;..;-V:-i'. : ;»'--quesrion.:'-''v. , .:;" : .',.:..'-.. : r:-;''. ■••'.■■ '■ ''■'.■- [■:'-'''v'-''". i -' 1 said he'had previously stated (■:;>::• an- the House that the- witness was asked t- , question. '-,I.'■•,/.'..■'•■•:■ ■:■ - ..■ f-'-' ;'; in '.further, ■ explanation, .-..v-.'■ :■' «aid that ho did;-not,take any unfair ad- '■• ■vi .■^ an . ta S es ; i«f Vthe. .witness—who was Mr -:■;:■:'.> ifenriings, M.P.; : .'.'.;';- -.-.■• ',-. . . £--.y\' v'^JTr.-;.; Jennings and, others .present- were !.:. : --'■■..": iinderstood-'to ..confirm this : statement. j;.:.-; : /'-Mr. Hanah there"were certain ■' '' ; !? c " c? - ado P.ted .by/sonie wrestlers ; when ;,.:,. jtey^could. not fairly beat an opponent, v■' ,r^ yi ,V" led % f °We'.his^eyes'out or choke r,-.,-,:flnm—(laughter)—ana ■such" methods ap- ..■-:', |]«ared;.:to be coming into" vogue, in-politi-a.ical':.warfare-in" this country; ■',' . •"': r ."/ ■"T.Mr:-'.'MaEsey--rbse.'to'm'ake'.'a personal ?';■■:':';■ |<splanatipn ansing l out of-a remark' by ';;. ' ? Hot-.Hanan that ho (Mr;. Massey) knew f-yV.o'-iratningrabout legal-procedure. .. jVy..,'»a'Mr.,BnsseU made'one. or two attempts -:.-, ;lo,check Mr.;Massey by.raisvfg pointsof Cv>;.'.;•":*j< l^. -and the latter claimed.'-the'.-protec-?."'.-•>":l! < ' n ?f .we Speaker against "unmannerly >.„,'■ interruptions. ;•; ; .' ' ,-..•■ :- ; -%^Tj ; -;M r iMass.ey,r being, allowed to ; proceed, Kii question Mr. Hanan' was .a.'ve'ry-unfair.one i'-i-'"- ('•i'3 r iW l ; nall asain'i protested, and asked !",.■>■/ ; !W e, ' speaker to;say-.whether he thought 'f'-.:■'■■ ,'.'tlie-question ; -unfair.-. • ■.■'■■"■■, '.'<. i. .;.;: : that'.- Mr.' Hanan had r--.- .'Blready oxplained:. that .when he pnt tho j.,.:.,,. first of the'two questions-referred to he ;, -.. didnot know that the statement that Mr f '•■ ~ jymes was not a member -qf. the House at '■•■;'■* "■•£,?' nnie : under notice ' was -'incorrect.- .'■;' a, •\1 JL hen ,' thls was pointed out to him by ?,.'■■ »!>meoDe .he put tho second ques- ■- ( fi ■'- "Pn. .-.Thecofficial report showed that the" j.. ; ':;,-;.v.typ;questions.(Nos..-42 and.43) were put ;•.';•,;.. jurstated.:.,; -. . . "■:■;■•■ .-• • ~ • i^■■'-.K^β l ' suggested: that the i; : '.-.; : ',.-,P onse rShould-priJceed to the next busi-[.rii-vi' House/did'ep. '-. ; : :'''