-DEFENCE PROPOSALS.

Dominion, Volume 4, Issue 951, 19 October 1910, Page 9

DEFENCE PROPOSALS.

DEBATE IN THE COUNCIL. THE WATER POWER BILL. FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE HOUSE. The second readings of tho Defonco Bill and tho'Native Townships Bill wore agreed to in tho Legislative Council yesterday. In the House • of Representatives tho Harbours Bill was road la second time, and the By-Laws Bill and tho Aid to -Water Power Works Bill were considered in Committee. THE COUNCIL. OAMAfiU HARBOUR BOARD ENABLINC BILL When the Legislative Council met yesIfeTday afternoon tho Oamani Harbour Board Enabling Bill .was reported from Committee with amendments. "* NEW ZEALAND PORTLAND CEMENT COMPANY. The -report of tho Committee in th'e &ew Zealand Portland . Cement Company (Ltd.)' Reclamation and Empowering Bill was agreed to without discus.lSion. , , - , . DEFENCE AMENDMENT BILL. , ' Tho'adjourned debate on ffie Defence Sunendmcjit Bill was resumed by The Hon. J. R. SINCLAIR (Otago) who remarked that so long as we kept our own JOominion effectively defended wo .were doing a .share .towards maintaming the bond of Empire. Wo were acting as one united whole and assuming that responsibility which maturity imposed. "No greater misfortune, could Jbefa.ll this country than'that its defence should' be made a subject of political strife, but fortunately, there was . mo fear" of this. It", could not be too jstroiigly emphasised that the defence legislation passed last year had been passed for defence, only—for preserving peaeo and not to promoto, war. Those , "who were, unhappily, injured in the service of the countrj should,-for all time, to made the nation's care.'

■ W; ;OARNCROSS ; expressed his pleasure, .at' fms:kieasure all party feeling'had-been tie . : winds. ;."!£[«>,: Sd not be;lieye|iti: itaying a. jhuge.ariny':of..'men '■w^";'TOiUdrißlitetV?bnV. , lt..would.e : yen;be:betfcer.'-thau , sucli, he fthouijht,;' to: disarm and I I?e' .a ; nation- pf. jion-<<)iflbatants 'and <trnst to tie. mercy, como; ; to;these;shores^ ; iWith'tHeipassing of tbis. Bill,-the,\work '• would • hot icease.' It.was tne:,duty ; 'of ; th6:press; tie p'olpitj. of political and public inen.'tp try'and incnlra;te\in: tlh4-jriinds;. , true'i'meaning: of; the': word' patriotism. Ho; irnsted" tnati ihe : .time, Would ,come before:; long -when-; Dominion;. Day /would be- the ■fereat'patriotid"<lay. i pf;' New. Zeai uptotike' >beiri c share. iri'the' , -defence;of >ry ; sbould i 'feUdqk^d'; : up6fl-as';cifrß^uii^ : ' vortliy-! of ; being- members" of'tbe ■ ish^'Bmpire:''-'';;.'^*--;'-'"^'^;"^':''-'w''^:-;- , :

Thto : ATTOENEYrQENERAI/;«-in- hii ■TCplyi:.:' ; throughout reflected 'the '.'feelinjjs'of: th'i country, and , that feeling'-- had a. deepej meaningv^than-most, ■to'admit^\'-ASfew^.-:3reaii'';agcf;.''tt'.?eiiiggeS-tion.bf-runiversal-' have teen' Me t : l&tionj3id:'n<ft ; {ieeU;.to''' : CT|ate',a-m3jt3r]i spirit-i'br.-. classJ'cf;Wβ ' in'; inherited'.a.';.dislike. ! -for ;therestablishmentjof ,:a; -If >the Bill it,; had Vbeen.. launched,; we f would '.'■. have a_B■^€septivβ' i .i('•■■d^ehoβ^.■ ; timid idesir?.S;ltolx^ig! :i tofa;; sugr thethat .it vwas .ridiculous-to "dfag;;i|he'Ccountry "youths ■ away,-. to-;.useless Vcafips/.-sDr. ?oingyfe.:.fe;cam^v:6ut , !'in.;fiie l! i i 'v;|)luiii bary spirit Kβ did ;ii<A, think it was' going to'f'.be'..a success V,'at'.v.aili.V. , V^t ! '' wie same '::wnie,7lie"didv;' hat. '-ihinkV.itliere would:,he any rehictance on .tKe.'part'of the country^people \to" go: into;camp; for the' few; days; needed for the :of their;.pquntry.i,Hβ.did. \aoi■ tninlc• the spirit j.qf; opposition wouldl-be" ; shown: in the. country.'i-:ln^;.fact, ; ..iill'.th6"i"conntry he believed •;they ; would be aotivei'jthaii :;crtiesr ] It X TOuld be , .impossiWertq.ailow-men .to',continue lin the; Territbrial: Force twentyfive, as :; had / beeH ;r suggesfed," or' they couldjiJiot ; fill ; ;up i-.the force, Toungilmen cpming;along.i: There would, ■he: thought, '-still.; be" ample loom \for the Tolunteer-.i.s'pirit: , - in;, the .Bill /before, the V Council:'•;' Unless' - .that'. ■ spirit''.- was observed,, there ,'was": not'; taach■: ciance of the^succesaipf^theVscheiae- ; ''.lt itead ■would ; -be-] presented" is oh'ad.' b'een suggested- in'" th'e- :dobate. ■';The"-proposal iii'ady:.b|y:-Dr'!' : shouldVbe -recorded';--.was 'already coh-' templated<:by'-the Department.' .He-un-derstood ...that.-as -far ■as "possible everything-.:., that; cariiibeyniado'in New-Zea-. land for the ■ Territorial;l r orce -would-be Diade'^here. , '■'■;;■:;-" ■■:(.;■■■ '■;'■'■ ';-[ flbm V; : r The'. ;"■ StateshbuldAacquire the works. I'■"';. ; v" :'.';'■' jDr. -'Fiiidlay.: ''That'-is; a ...difficult.qiies-. ion, -although/l'-kuow.;thero is-a.gobd" '^al'to:. ; be;;Baid in.favour.of>-iti , ■■■,■■, '■

yTheisecond dreading rofvth_o:,..Bill wasgreed_ ':to,'i: and "the.-: stage'as' made an .order-of ! Vtlie--. day' .for Trursday.W ■;■ .:/:.": v :^: .; ; -;;..:<./;r ,'v;> : ;.:

,i {M MIC R ATI ON' RESTRIOTI ON. ■Tie third -reading 7 of the Immigration -Restriction: Amendment : Bill ■ was .greed'to'without discussion."-' ':'' - ■J-; 'ANIMALS? 'yw ■ "-This Bill' is intended' to: remove" dificultie's' and '■ anomalies disclosed via; tho. jxisting; Acii ; "--Eaid-'thevAttorney-Gen-c wal 'in 'moving the s^ond v reading of• ;he Animals' Protection: • Amendment ■■■■-?:-y^ : A .:--;v; : ;.' :■•-■■ ,Th6Hon/J:::ANSTBY' (Canterbury): stated., that he intended '.to movo in Committee.that'the.power:giyeii to acclimatisation societies' to .'•■remove'.■■ the ; protection; on : 'hares.;■ should ferred;^' :, 'bgr|biUtarali'an.a i ;pas^(ral- : 8o-, 3ieties Y 7^The;"'acclimatisation'. kicieties s-ere not as''well qualified to uridertako ;he:task A.' and'P. societies!' The former .consisted of-: a. few" selfJected.'goh.tlemen, .who had little to do nth.their time, and had' no 'respon■ibilities. V; They... v?ere;. the ..last. pec-ple. /ho'slioiild be consulted.as to whether .ares should or. should; riot, be'.'"-pro-actedi- ■' .'■ V, : '\ :../..'.•.' .:.,' ; v ■'■'■ ■''"■''/'■'• :"':" : ' The'Hon. 'J. D. OBMQND (Hawked •ay) remarked on tho endless destrucion -paused, to native : birds stoats ,'nd weasels.: Froni.the.beginning■ ho iad done his best,to prevent them.'beng brought here.'-'"They did some good, rat the : damage was irreparable, and pas not balanced'by the . good. ' ; He igreed that.'tho. alfcratibn..in regard o' A. and P. associatioM.iWae ,a J desir-: •ble one, -but he could not-agree, with ihat: had been-said about the. acclima-: isation- societies'... work. . They, had '.ono; some, very -excellent 'work ■■';'' in tocking the'rivers, otc. . ■■ ■, :

■■The-v-r; Hon. ": ■ G.-. : JONES '(Otago) nought; the ■ acclimatisatioa... societies ascrved-;somethiiigibetter;.... than -'•' the ■jntumely heaped on them by the Hon. Ir.'. Anstey. ■. ' :

'The Hqns. J. B. Callan and H. F. Wigram also; rose in defence of tho acclimatisation societies. V NATIVE TOWNSHIPS. _• In-moving tho second reading of the Native..Townships; Bill, tho AttorneyGeneral briefly outlined the object of .the measure. ' .■ '-. .■■:■:..■.'-■■'• ■'■■ The Hon. W. W. M'CARDLE (Auckland) expressed, pleasure' at the fact that .the Maori, who held land in Native townships,.was to be.placed in a better/ position in: regard to the- sale of the lauds. He thought the! Bill should go further and-provide that the Natives, should not receive the purchase money to spend as fast as they pleased. A portion of.it should-be used by the Crown to, improve;the balance of their holdings and.encourage them to farm their lands. :: .- , l .- ■• . -.: ; - ' ' "Tie Hon.-G. : JONES (Otago) said pfeewould like to see the Bill put back into the form;in wliicE.it first.reached the Lower.House-■Hβ would liko > to it ■ rid .of the" free-trade. principle which had: been inserted, in. deference, to ,the --demands of a certain. section. The•Government.should either buy the Maori-land or. let the Natives .lease it, but the land shotild not be sold to anybody and everybody as now proposed. .The Hon. J. T. PAUL (Otago)spoke in : : somewhat .similar terms : to : Mr." JorieSi.;. He .could , see no justification' for . what had'been done. • The Native was not , ibeing:. sufficiently:-. protected,' and was undoubtedly going to'be de-' .spoiled:of his lands. He believed the surrender was ..but /the beginning of a' wholesale capitulation/on-the.land tipii. v■;•.:.. ■.■':■■. : -- '■■'•/'■■) r \. ■'- .'r -."•. ■'•■.•■■-•' .' .The; ATTOR-NEy-GiENERAL said it was; Dot.a surrender: *to.freehold seiiti-. ment, '•' but ' a/-' simple' perpetuation';'in mon'i intelligent shape 'of;! powers" already; existing. ._ ■:■'•■ '■.■■ /....-.. . .' : The; second; reading ,:Was agreed to, and: the' Committee stage'of ..the Bill was.setdown: for to-day. , : The Council rose at 4.30 p.m.' '-.'.... /