AUCKLAND DIOCESAN SYNOD.

Auckland Star, Volume XIX, Issue 271, 16 November 1888, Page 2

AUCKLAND DIOCESAN SYNOD.

The Auckland Diocesan Synod resumed itg sitting yesterday afternoon at four o'clock, the Bishop's commissary, the Yen, Arch/ deacon Dudley, being in the chair.

The proceedings were opened wjtb prayer. ":: :; The Rev. J. Bates read the minutes ot the last sitting, which were confirmed.

There were present: — Clergy : Yen. ArehdeaconsClarke, Maunsell, Willis, Revs. ' Bates, Beatty, Biggs, Boler, Burrows, Calder, J. K. Davis, Farley, Fox, Gould; i Haselden, Hill, Hooper, Katterns,. Mar. ' shall, McFarland, Mulgan, Nelson, O'Callaghan, Purchas, Richards,. Smallfield, Sprott, Tebbs, Tobin, and Walpple; Laity: Messrs Batger, Beale, Beere, A. : Brown, Cameron, E. M. Clark, Cochrane, Cox, Crispe, Dawson. Doonin, Evans, Garrett, Garland, Hamilton, Hammond, Haselden, Haultain, Hills, Ireland, Jackson, Lawlor, Lodder, Luke, Nolan, Pierce, Raw-' lings, Rice, Richardson, Sandes, Percy S. Smith, Speight, Swarbrick, A. K. Taylor, W. H. Thorp, Upton, Vickers, Wells, Whitley, Wilson and Woollams. New Members. — The President an', nounced that Mr S. Vickers had been elected as a member of the Synod for Ingle-f> wood, rice Mr Seth Smith resigned. Thg Rev. R. W. Holdern of Adelaide and the Rev. Mr Lush of Thornden, Wellington,, were invited to take seats in the Synodal and accordingly did so. Puuewa Cemeteiys:.—The Hon. Colonel: Haultain laid the plans of thePurewa bury. I, ing ground. Standing Committee.—When the Synodic adjourned on the previous evening, leave had been given to again go1 into committee on the report and accounts of the Standing,; Committee, and on the motion of Mr Raw-:" lings this was done. The portion ,of'" the report under discussion was that dealing with the Home Mission reportl i and accounts. The following clauses-; were considered : —During the year ending ' 30th June last, fourteen _clergymen were}! partly maintained by this fund, namely,'■> one for each of the following districts :—^ Coroinandel, Howick, Kamo, Katikati, ■ n Mangonui, .Taranaki, Northern Wairoa, Papakura, Paparoa, Te Aroha, Te Awamutu, Waimate, Waiwera, and Waiuku. "" Five more clergymen are urgently needed ■" for the work of the Mission, Viz., for the Bay of Islands, Mahurangi, Helerisville, Ngaruawahia, and Lichfield districts.' Speaking co the latter clause Mir ■ Swarbrick and the Yen. Archdeacon j Maunsell advocated that the, parochial system of England .should - be adopted in Auckland. They wanted more itinerary clergymen. Mr Swarbrick - said that in the Waikato they wanted' better organisation, not more parsons, V Archdeacon Maunsell said he felt sure that '% they had too many clergymen in the various .: districts. He would like to see the mission-; ary system adopted in the early days of the: colony in vogue. He, however, drew tha;^ attention of the Synod to the [fact., that it had nothing to do with the': ; appointing of the clergymen—that was;' done by the Bishop —though the Standing1;;: Committee provided the funds. He thought that the Synod should have some' say in the matter.—The Rev. Mr FoxP and the Rev. Mr Walpole also spoke', on this clause, the latter considering that they were going on. a 'wrong;; principle—they gave too much towards the organising of the Home Mission work, and not enough towards the supporfj ' of the country clergy. He de3ired to propose a resolution to. the effect that the ■' Standing Committee should recognise that districts supporting a clergyman. should have first, claim on the funds : , of the Home Mission, and '.that; grants should be made on the eama scale that existed in 1884.—The Rev. J. r Haselden, the Organising Clergyman, spoke at considerable length, replying toi ; attacks that had been made on the organ- ~ ising of the Home Mission work. i; He', Bhowed very clearly how, since the Home Mission clergymen 'hadj,taken up the work,progress had been made in the out districts, work that people in tha;, town could.have a very faint idea of. He ' dealt very ably with the question of thaw funds of the ■ Mission, showing how the money was raised, how it was spent,:? and what; would be the effect of aaff; alteration in the present arrangements.' He dealt also with the appointment of the Organising Clergyman, >aud explained the work he had to do, .; He felt it was the work of God, snd he : would not give it up until another successor t': was appointed—a man'who could do tho ■:: hard work necessary—though, if he thoughtr 7: there was any persoEal toeling .towardp ";; himself in the speakers against the system, he would at once place his resignation in the hands of the' Archdeacon. He had, always received the greatest encourage,'' . nient, and he felt sure that the syn^f| pathy of the public was with;* |h^ 4; work being done in the out 'districts.—-;;,;: Archdeacon Dudley spoke in very flattering,:" terms of the work . done by the present) organising clergyman. Ho had several ■ suggestions to make that he_ might yeb embody in the fprm of resolutions, viz. i— (a) That the . Standing Committee endeavour to arrange for tho oiiice expenses of the Home Mission being men from; % another source than the Home Mission Fund. (b) To arrange us soon :a 8 niay; be for a large proportion of tha Home Mission-Fund in hand being devoted; to,| those clergy who are resident iii country; - districts, (c) That application be made to^ f the Diocesan Trust for an annual.grant (sol: t soon as its funds .will allow) towards.thq^ stipend of the organising clergyman ot tn^ diocese/ (d) That arrangemenistbe mada^; tor the Homo Mission clergyma#visiting,;;:; as it may be desirable, "thosa country"..districts in which a, clergyman ?s reei* dent, but in which inadequate amounts .: are contributed towards the $bipeua. • —The Rev. W. Beatty said spine ot the speakers had been looking at iho question* ; ; with the left eye shut, and others with tha " right eye shut. Some in their advocacy of. the organising work forgot the clergyv| stationed in the out' districts, while, others, :h in their desire to assist these clergy forgo^ the importance of the organising departs * ment.— On the motion of the Rev. yv; i Beatty, the Chairman of Committee ro-p ported progress, and obtained leave to sib again in the evening.

V. " EVENING SESSION. - The Synod resumed at 7 p.m o when therei was a large attendance. ,■■ _ w "i; Standing Committee.—The first P^fi .( ness dealt with, was the election of tnO; Standing Committee, and Mr Oriape.mOWKV.. and tlie:Rev:G. S. Hill "seconded,:.1. that . tto: old Standing Committeo be re ; elect€cij ■This course was objected to by Messta/ Upton, Clark and the Rev. C. &f.--Nelson. The. motion was -then- / m and the nominations" were■ .reccxvoa. As;. more gentlemen were nomiuateci taan « required a-vote was taken by mdm wneu the-following were elected..: Aen. deacons Maunsellj Dudley, 'Revs. U •Nelson, G. H. S. Walpole an* 1. y«"%., Dr. Dawson,-.Messrs B?tger, V; Kico, wot , lings, S. Luke, M. CJark, and H. N. bar land. ■o,.r.Tv ffh^' : Diocesan Sunday-school ..Bo.\w>.—xn^. Rev. P. Smallfield laid upon the tabteth*. report of the above Board whibh^etotMfc that- monthly meetings , had oeen Jieia; throughout the: year, a so" q«w*orV mf*Y ings at; Sfc. Sepulchres, Mattbew^a^; Mirk's Churches. It also stated M«; Board had undertaken to.conduct aminations for the Bishop's W^iM X ," also published notice of Church Gazette, the same bexng cd teaw,., the Roy. Percy Smallfield. -It was r : = ; ohg to consider the matter in coir.inilice -■« next meeting of the-Synod. _ V Wrioti.v A^EKATiox of Canons.-LolonelJ^; tain's Bill ttfajaend the eanoaa bj a**"^

fT^n'ff proviso fcq Regulation 24, fcbo follow"JC j, of Canons aud RaguI>£irtil of thef Dioceae of Auckland viz., latwns oi w timo t!iere should <<Pr° V1anY aincii in the vestry that a beSOl ,/ulcl notbe convened, a meeting ttoru m.could no to ofpar»hl°?, c"S s d a thh . d timo anc l successors, adopted. peksions.—The Synod next ™TaL Sport of the special comconsidered tn£P°_ Mr W . j. Speight ffit^ 3 1 that the idea of the committee expiated that t- pengion F dj wast,° * Sited to about £11,000, and inwhich amounte d to .^^ E tifcutc) three iund*, v* g fche *» Widows id OrpLan. Fund. Ciergyß -f nSed that the Clergy's Sick The report ?ioua?a o Qf Fu^ftand capital, i 2,800; present Special June I caj ~. , WS 'nfe t tion Fund capital, £1,105 ; of 000 The sources of revenue mSL\'n he £2 per annum from European W?£lfromMao^ clergymen,.who at proSU f Subscribed to the existing Pension alloT ar e ed £100 per atum to European must exceed *i j num to Maori clergymen and Xou t Fund "WftS pro rato payments should be S eon I'^^anci principle to obtain J j iw npr annum, and no widow of a SiioWnSishould be entitled toreS m Se°than£2s per annum In the nf a clergyman over sixty years Too? who married, the report proled th^ his widoW Sh°uld nObi"° OelS wfit from the fund for more than 10 be !. 5,0 that all -aid to widows Sdceloathe re-marriage, of the re-SS'.-On the motion of Mr Speight, Saod went into committee to consider the report, Col. Haultain acting as chairin -The Rev. I. Richards suggested that t ffould save time to adopt the report ot the Committee as it was submitted. - Air Speight objected to this proposal. He tonight it would be wiser or them to thoroughly go into the matter, and know what they were adopt-ing.-Mr Upton said that the Synod were indebted to Mr Speight and Mr Kawlings for the report submitted. He thought that the Synod should give it then most careful consideration. The irst point to be o-one into was the question of whetuei they had the power to enforce the payment of the contributions from the clergymen and also from their parishes. He thought; it would be wiser for the report to be referred to the clergymen and their parishes for thenopinion, and then let the matter come up at the next Synod.-Mr Speight thought that it would be no gain to refer the matter to the people as they would never understand it. The outcome would be that some parishes would agree with the report and some would not. and they would come back no wiser than they were before. The Synod was representative, and lie thought that they should not go beyond it. He was aware that there would be opposition, but still it might be met. He hoped that if the people objected to accept the system if sent to them with the sanction of the Synod, then they must devise some system of discipline to enforce it—Mr Upton pointed out that the whole matter was a question of payment of sovereigns. If the people would not pay them "all that the Bishop could do would be to withdraw the clergyman, and they all knew that Bishop Cowie was not the one to do that. He would consider that ministerial attendance was more required than pensioning of the clergyman.—The Rev. W. Tebbs favoured the idea of referring the matter to the parishes during the ensuing year ; then they would know how they stood. —Yen. Aichdeacon Dudley suggested that the matter should be discusEeil and then remit it to the parishes, and upon the return of the Bishop they could have a special session of the Si'nod quite early next year in order to finally decide upon the matter.—Mr Crispe considered that it would be almost impossible to get the pouncry districts to subscribe. In many of the country districts they could not even raise the minister's stipend, much less any additional amount. —Mr Pierce referred to fche fact that the parishes had not supported the Synod when they appointed au iuspeetor of Sunday-schools. He agreed with Mr Upton that the report should be referred to the parishes. If they could not pay the clergyman how could theybeexpecteel to "pay for their pensions in the future? The scheme was a good one if it could be carried out, but that was the question. It had been re3ohred that sermons should be preached for the Home Mission Fund, but they were not observed. What was .the use of talking about discipline. The Bishop would not dare do it, for ■he could Dot do it here. The .people bad the power in the dirty pence which, thay gave. It was a free colony and such things could not be done.' B'iahop Selwya wag ast we ii aD Ie to manage people as anyone he knew, but even he always sent wKrtbiags to the parishes as a recommen-dation-and hot as an order. They had a sample of hew r hurch funds were managed in fto diwsipn pfthe Selwyn Memorial Fund. &?ofcher lady left a sum to the Home jajsaqn fund, but that had been borrowed m Blglt never be paid back. A subscription Lad. been made fpr a peal ot bells «ot. Matthew's years ago. Had'they got aiemj As amount was subscribed to put window in St. Paul's Church to «»<g Mteson, but it was not there yet. rtevas sorry to say that the clergy were »il y the first to propose these doviagfron, tWe trusts. Why, things were PgJWdergy in that line which, ff they ill dof of companies at X- V vould be landed "&> *c JiretoK o£ the Glasgow Bank were. tl»*fV°iv Archdeacon Dtl<l!ey thought v-kt sff ree had exa *- rgerated someVounl ■■ , towards the expecses of a IS, tlllms!* r> attend hospitals, and the ;"l,ffio^ fa f^ther sum'for the tf BLI* h° t .offioia^ at the funerals "Pinion , P?tients, was not in his 40"* >' ble ach of th° trust. In that in ]"!? ocence he had thought '■'•a^L aF ,bhese suggestion, he the ftgrfS Perfectly in accordance with i!LXT^?^ehwb- At the same ivas iZh^- g ,to see that Mr Pierce truitrnJ*v paA°-ns oonserver of Church did a» ,„ j!3 tho«ghb these discussions . such 5iF °r! od- He was in Koui?? y Wlth report that •mrih p° V IH to go round I' ll g0 with ypu-"--lo^denomin\- lson said that the Wes- : '^S^T h^ B°™ such scheme i i{ % 'cmTM iby tlie 'Committee, and clmvohVS^ that then why,not the ; ? e »ior] a l L - '*eference to the Patterson : IW V-J™' he could tell l J ha it would bp up as £#$$1! oard would assist St. : -it nVJ he n(?w church.—The i 15 c)^4 If 6°, decided to go' through '. niat'l2:--cL'™ tfae re P°rt seriatim. The c' lfisJon a. st : es were passed without dis- I ' ;- ie feaij t y tWere merel.y explanatory of |; ' Clei -?yii]-'n»- p tl r| porfcsu ';h as "Parish," . ntccl-t!i e !' ~Board" kc, and stipu- i B°ar4 aud Co"stitutions of the proposed i Por6.^jj r^R J nm es when it should re- , c '0 iiF 61"1^ devoted considerable as'l GXplailation of the various . ' heoti°Hla t t y ere read.-Clause 19 of - a. 3f«i!o Ws < l, c 9 ler *ry Pension Fund was reouri i l mi«?diate annual contri."^efffltovfa to Kpaid on account of ? Cr aGfcf n as .afore?aid for each £100 i MiSi P? n? lun commencing at 65 • R • W && hs 15 ' kbe contributed « ;: ■ InS proportions ;-By the !

pariah, £10 per annum continuously ; by the clergyman, £5 per annum until he attain 65 years of age. This clause was discussed at some length. Several country members contended that i'o -was impossible to raise the extra £10 in their districts. The various clauses were discussed until the hour for adjournment arrived, when progress was reported, and the Committee received leave to sit again ab 4 o'clock tomorrow.