knowledge and technique adapted to suit the carving similar to those experts of old he saw adzing and carving the Porourangi Meeting House of Ngatiporou when he was a boy. So he instructed me to find such a person or persons in my own Ngatiporou people, learn all I could and apply it to the carving in the School. My intensive search for such a person has already been written by me in Maori, not only of locating him but also of finding him, though 60 years of age, but active physically and mentally, an expert adzeman and carver and the carver of the Arawa people. He was Eramiha Kapua, a student under his uncles Neke and Anaha, famous Arawa carvers, noted for their work during 1890 to 1920, displayed in and outside Government buildings, carved meeting houses of Te Arawa in the Rotorua district, and were prominent in Exhibition displays in New Zealand associated with the late Augustus Hamilton, author of Maori Art published in 1896. When I interviewed him at Te Teko in January 1930, he was dairying and hand milking thirty cows. He was robust for his age and after a night session with his friends and neighbours he agreed to teach adzing and carving to the pupils of the school of Maori Arts at Rotorua. I soon found out that he was a craftsman and expert on culture and tradition, a leader of his faith, the Ringatu Church, and his acceptance and later appointment to the school gave great satisfaction to Sir Apirana and his Board and the pupils of the School. For here was the very last expert of the old Maori School of Arts and Crafts. He gave rhythmic motion and action to the adzing of the carving, interspersed by song and patere, Kaore au i porua ki te kainga ka ki atu au ki aku matua kei te haere au ki roto o Turanga, tena pea te uri a Raharuhi Rukupo kei te ora i roto o Manutuke hei awhina i au. Ki whakaae ratau, ka tukua au i runga i te rangimarie, i te tumanako o aku tipuna o te Ringatu, a ka manakitia taku haerenga me taku hokinga mai. Po rawa ake ka tae au ki Manutuke, a, ko te kupu mai o konei me haere au ki a te Wirihana, kei te Muriwai tona kainga, no te mea ko ia anake kei te mau ki te pito whakairo i roto o Turanga. Ka tae mai te manako ki au ka waiata, “To Toki e hika Hui-te-rangi-ora tae noa ki te mutunga, kei te tawata hoki a roto kia whiwhi i taku e kimi nei.” I te ata-tu ka tae au ki Te Muriwai ma raro tonu haere ai, a, ohomauri ana nga tangata o tenei pa i te kitenga mai i au, ka ki atu au i haramai au ki a Te Wirihana, a ko te Wirihana hoki e karanga ana mai, haere tonu atu au. Ka mutu a maua mihimihi, ka korero atu au i te take o taku haramai, ka whakautu mai a ia kaore a ia e tino mohio ki te mau kapukapu, engari me haere au ki Whangara ki a Ruku Hinaki ma, me kore he korero a Ngati-Konohi. Ka hoki mai au ki Manutuke, a haere tonu atu ki Whangara. Ka tae atu ki reira ka peka au kia kite i a Riki Riiti, a korero tonu atu i te kaupapa o taku haere. Nana i ki mai kaore ratau e mohio ki te whangai i te toki kapu engari pea nga kaumatua o Te Aitanga-a-Hauiti i roto o Uawa, no te mea kei reira te whare wananga o Hingangaro, a Te Ra Wheora, a tena pea ma Timoti Maitai, Te Whainga Taumaunu, Te Wiriwiri Karakia, e korero, e waiata, e whakatu te mau toki ki au. Ka ahu taku tira ki Uawa, ka tae mai te maharahara ki au mo te taonga e rapu nei au, no te mea kaore au i kite, i rongo ranei ki tetahi tangata mohio i au e tamariki ana, engari kua kite i nga toki kapukapu i tena kainga i tena kainga. Akuanei pea kua ngaro te momo tangata mau i tenei toki, mahue iho ko nga maramara, a ko wai hei kohikohi, hei whakatinana kia rere ano ai nga potapota me nga maramara a nga tau e tu mai nei. Tae rawa atu au ki Uawa, kua tae ke aku mahara ki nga waapu kani rakau, ki nga takiwa e tarai rakau ana mo nga huarahi rere o nga tereina (trains) ki nga waapu mahi kaipuke, a, tarai i nga rewa (masts), ki nga takiwa hanga piriti (bridges), no te mea koia nei nga wahi e whakamahia ana, tenei toki. Ka peka au ki te marae ki a Timoti raua ko Te Whainga ka korero i taku haere. Ka mihi raua, a ka waiata i taku waiata kaingakau o nga toki onamata, mutu rawa, ka ki raua kaore he tangata i roto o Uawa hei ako i au, me haere au ki Tokomaru ki a Wiremu. Potae mana e tohu ki au taua tangata. Moe rawa au ki a raua i taua po, a ka korero raua i nga toki tapu a te Maori; a Te Awhiorangi ma, ki nga toki pou tangata tohu o te rangatira ki nga toki titaha, a mutu atu ki nga toki kapukapu i kite raua e