One of the junior tables in the midst of discussion. Mr W. Parker, adult education tutor, listens in from the back appraising the speakers. The elders did not always define their problems as completely as did their juniors. More often than not this was because they knew these problems well and were thus able quickly to come to grips with the essentials. When definition was disputed, however, then the tussle began, then the views of the veterans were sought, the experts called in and a solution arrived at after a session of really hard slogging. I think that this can be well illustrated by considering the land section in the discussions on economic conditions as shown in the reports. The general impression I gain is that while the younger people stated broadly that something had to be done, their elders said so in much more precise terms. The latter quoted specific Acts of Parliament and sections of those acts, they referred to relevant powers conferred upon the Maori Land Court, they pointed to decisions of the Supreme Court. When they saw the need for expenditure of money, they nominated the amounts they thought necessary and where it should come from. And yet from time to time I detected among those sitting at the 1939 table a tendency to adopt defensive attitudes—and for good reasons. Whereas the younger people could discuss a matter quite impartially, here were men who had themselves had a hand in the framing of Acts of Parliament or in the moulding of departmental policy. To their very great credit they discussed Mr Matiu Te Hau, organizing secretary, pauses a moment on the University steps to check on the many arrangements for conference.