PARLIAMENTARY.

Marlborough Daily Times, Volume X, Issue 139, 16 November 1887, Page 3

PARLIAMENTARY.

From our Special Correspondent. BY TELEQEAPH. Weli'.toxon, Nov 15. A PAINFUL SCEEE. Perhaps the most painful and intensely exciting scene that has been witnessed in the House sinco the celebrated “ waiting ” of Mr Gisborne by the Speaker in 1b76 took place tb : s afternoon, aud the event wiU long bo remembered by those who witnessed it. Mr It. Thompson, the new member for Marsdun, asked the Government if it was truo that the services of two of Sir Jffiius Vogel’s servants had been retained by Sir Julius sinco tho resignation of the late Ministry up to present date, and at the public cost. In reply, tho Premier stated that until lately two persons, one a constable and the other an aimed constabulary | man, were in the employment of Sir Julius. Upon going out of office the ! Colonial Treasurer had written to him J with respect to the Armed OonstabrY/ 1 man, saying it would be a matter of personal convenience if he could be allowed to retain his services, while he woo’d pay his cost, and the Government had assented to this proposition. With regard to the messenger, Sir Julius Vogel retained him, and as soon as his services were reqffived ho was sent baca to Sir Julius. After the reply of tho Premier, Sir Julus Vogel made a statement as to the position, in which he remarked that owing to his Yfi rarities he had to monopolise the services of a messenger more than other members, and his chief reason for taking tho services of this especial messenger was that ho had no wish to deprive tho other members of tho services of the ordinary messenger. Sir Julius then warmed up to tho occasion and enquired why it was that such a resol-tion as that one had been allowed to bo put on tho order paper, 'lucre was a timo when such a resolution would not be | allowed on tho paper. As regards such a ' resolution as this, he was not in a very 1 fair position. However, it was a relief to b‘ nto 1. iow that now ho was not ; n the Government ho should not allow personal abuse which had been addressed against him, aud on former occasions, by members ’■ of tho House. Tho lion, gentleman then tontinued: Now I have a few words to say, Sir, < to this lion, member for Marsdcn. lam < wilbng to make every allowance for the 1 obvious fact that the hon. gentleman is £ unfortunately in want of knowledge of the 1 world, of men, or of manners, } The Speaker: I really must stop this, i It is quite impossible that I can allow you I to charge any hon. member of this House 1 in this way. I think the hon. gentleman a will see the impropriety of using this lan- I gunge to any hon. member. ' S ; r Jr’ius Vogel: I am going to t speak very plair’y to the bon. gentle- I man. * The Speaker : Do you persist in using c these words? You must withdraw them, t If you wont withr 1 'aw them I must tako I such steps as seem necessaiy. lucre is t nothing more essential to the proper conduct of Parliamentary bus Yous as that f there shov’d be strict Par”amenfcory lan- a gunge between members. _ s Sir Jehus, Yan excited manner: “WPI h you bo so 1 ' id, S’T, as to tell me which s arc tho words you object to? I Tho Speaker: Charging ono of tho v members of this House with want of s manners.

Sir JffiYs : I withdraw tho words, sir. I say obvious want of knowledge of persons who arc wont to mix in good society. The Speaker : I think I must say now that your are trespassYg too much on the indulgence of tho House and tho Glut r by the language you are addressing to it. Mr Seddon here ejaculated in an excited manner, No ! no ! and there was a subdued murmur throughout t'io House. Sir Julius Vogel: Well, sir, it w'’ 1 be very much worse before I am done. To this tho Speaker rep 1 Yd with finn dignity—lf the hon. gentleman will not desist in the lang uigo towards the House it will bo my duty for tho first timo to exorcise tho authority I have by muffing that gentleman. lam lotli to do it, but it will bo my duty to do it, and I shall not flinch from it. I trust the hon. gentleman will sec that he is projeocYig on a course which the House wi’l not tolerate. Sir Ji 'ius Vogel: Well, s'", I will say usages of society.

Tin; Speaker (’'(l not reply, but chitinned—l wish to know by what right you proceed now with the.attack you have made on the h<n. gentleman, and am quite wi'lingj it’ any reflection is made upon you, that you shall have a ft:" opportr - : ty to v‘'ir"cnte yourself, andhaviug vindicated yot 'self, there must he more moderation .shown towards other lion, members.

Sir Julius : f t.l ’rk the words usages of society is nothing to which exception might betaken I will ask the House this whether Sir my .r'ty wbi ill is the act of God shor’d ho brought before th's House because messengers have g iven me from time to time some attention when other messengers have been given more at tention to other members for an act of the dev' and lust of liquar. Sir Jr’ ius hero became vc.; excited and there were cries of “Order” from flic Speaker and other members. The Speaker then said : Sir Julius Vogel the language you are using towards this House is so d'srcspootful that I cannot address you as a member for the district but I now name you as \ ’olating the good taste due from one member to another. (Hear hear). You x. 11 now make such explanation as you tlruk proper you w'll then withe'-aw while the House is dea'mg with yorr case. Sir JY’uia Vogel did not appear to have

heard what the Speaker said and remarked V.** 1 do not believe the House w ask me ” to withdraw from my statement, I do not believe you understood me when I said it.”

The Speaker : I ask you to w ithdra v altogether from the House, I have named you ns infringing the rights of tho House, yon can make such explanation as von think proper, after which you will withdraw until tho House lias decided wliut it will do in the matter. Sir Julius Vogel: Then Sir I am very sorry that this resolution should appear on tho order paper which refers to tho fact that something of more than ordinary assistance should bo required by me now, sir, it is notorious I think that for years past tht.ro were any mom hers so habitually given to lie sei n in drink who are occasionally drunkards, and then, sir, require a great deal more extra assistance from mess, ngers that has never been before the House Y this manner. What assistance lias ’••ecu rendered to members on the danger wjiicli this building Mauds jii of being burnt ilbwis’throngh tins 1 louse being occupied by lueinbc ; who are notorious, and who have time after time drunk to excess so that they become helpless for the . no being. (Cries of order, order.) I will ask for consideration. 1 say I have a right to make that statement. I have a right to ask this question. I say that one of tho high officers of this House was elected by his being bound to take tho pledge, aud that lie gave Jiis resignation into tho hands of one of the Miuis- * Mr Fergus rose at this point, and said : “ I rise to a point of order,” but the Speaker did not notice his remark, and addressed Sir Julius as follows :—“You cannot make such explanation as this. I cannot allow it to go any further, and it

must be desisted in talking of other members in this way. I shall have to say I cannot listen to you any longer. The excitement in the House and galleries at this stage became intense, but it was brought to a conclusion by the Minister of Defence, who remarked : “ I wish to call the attention of this House to the fact that strangers are in the galleries. Under tho circumstances there was no option but for the Speaker to clear the galleiies; by bis direction this was done, and Iho House then proceeded to dYcuss tho position with closed doors.