PARLIAMENTARY.

Lyttelton Times, Volume L, Issue 5459, 21 August 1878, Page 2

PARLIAMENTARY.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY. £PBB PRB3B AOBKCr.I LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. Tcespat, Arorai 20. To-day, in the Council, the Hon C. JPbabaztw asked the Colonial Secretary whether it was an established rule that *«> com (Aunt is made against the misconduct <• a Civil servant, the cem plaint is referred u the courts'of law for redress. The Hon Colonel Whithobh answered aad that special remedy was provided m Pharasyn’s case by law. n Sir F. D. Bwj/s morion for a return ot reserves made under part 7 of the Land At.. 1877, in each Provincial district, was »g r(r - IU Hon Colonel Whitmobb mission to introduce, next indaj, » "Ji „ amend “ The Friendly Societies Act, 1 bitOh the motion of the Hon T. Fsaseb. Select Committee was appointed to prepare, congratulatory address to the Queen on successful result of the Berlin Conference- , Consideration of the Executive Councils- > Hill was postponed. , Trades’ Union Bill and Literary lu titiou Bill were considered in Commit and progress reported. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE?!. Tuksday, Aruuei 20. Tho House met at 3.30 p.m. nowk« or Miwox. • Mr Bashaw gats notice to mei® tnai

day s, to enable memhera towiuieasthe opening of tho The Hon J. Sniaux Rare notice to oak Isaro to introduce a “ Native Land Bill, 1878” '■■' ' ' :;v: ' ; 1x AIXBQXD Hr to tbe'j gffl? of the appointments of certain members of the Ministry, Xtjmiwl to <orre ct an hia 0 f hi» colleague* came within the provisions of ..She hon. gentle - man went atlCDgt&uitoifaaciroixxnHtonces of th« aißf^t'Bwdsaie^ii^tiiaiea s^^, minutely the law baring the subject. ‘' The Hon. ft?' BTOOT"mthnated that* he would take tirao;tp, consider; the' arguments by Mr Whitaker^. ... ..rr • * qo xenons. ■ -

The Hon W. FoX, asked; without, [ notice, whether it wasa fact that Bawi wasat-present under the constant surteiUanoo of a man, and eould not be eeen outside the Jhia 3. eaidtlidihe had wn unaware that such was the eai*r»i*d if S found on inquiry ftwasso he wowlfl prevent . thine being continued. ;He believed a S ft gentleman ifiiomas, in Her HajwtyVeersW-Sn-India ndUuring. with in regard to somdlook of swd, smd he with to-4*»ist from SSug between toe^TKum^t., and * e, ''w m 1,5 " 1:1 ' Tn ronlv to Mr Feldwisk, -■ *-v. The Bom. J- MacawPMW hid upon the tabled a statement slmwmg the Uit of Übour of the guani*. engine-driVers, stokara, fy. on the Government rartwaya, <witb-par-ticnlan respecting each ewttoto; .* In reply to Mr Hobos, Hr Macandbsw said that a tan Of money would bo placed on the estimate* t« enable Volunteers on duty by tmin to'KkYo free iiftssag*'*! cMiiawiUi xroiu their conimanitiog ofllocrs.- .' The BEKimm, in reply to a questionhy Mr Bobbs. said Government eopm all the libraries in the country topics of the book ou the Indigenous Grasses of the Colony, but copies would be given to thb principal ones' of the Colony. : • ; . ... In reply to the Hon. W. Gisborne,

The Hon. E. Stout said the Government did not, this session, intend dealing with the present system of Crown prosecntioa.writh a view to its improvement by assimilating it to (he Scotch system or otherwise. Government promised to furnish a rethrn of how many free railway passes hare been {•sued, though It would Jake some time to. prepare. . - • The Hon. J. Shekhar, in reply to Mr Taiaroa, said it was correct that the late Sir XXinald kTLean promised five thousand acres in Marlborough and Nelson; to the Vgatimu, trilv?, and the present Government intended" to make cood that promise. Jn reply to Mr M‘lw«n, The Hon J. Baliahc* said the only oorrejpoedenoo between themselves'and* Sir Julius theAgcnt Generalship was of a semi-private nature, and Government did not'feel justified in making it public. - - ' " JTEW Bill*. , .

Seversl Bills for (he triennial alodion of the House of Representative*, and Mr Curtis’ Bill to amend the Education Act, 1577; also the Government Bill imposing the duty upon Joint Stock and other Companies, and the Bill to impose a tax on Land were introduced. EBOOSI> ÜBADIKQ. : r . The Martin Annuity Bill was read-a second time.

rim, ssr.viCß act amkjtdiisst biix. In Couimittee oa this Bill, ?.

Mr Eelly moved a new clause to the effect f hst no person, who was.a Provincial officer on the coming into opcraUoa. of tte Abolition Act. and who was transferred ■to the CivilService on the said Act coming into operation, shall be entitled to any retiring allowances The House divided on the question, and the clause was read a .second time by 37 against ■/X. v , ' ‘'

It was then moved that the first word “ no” he left out and the. word “ every" substituted, but it was ruled on a point of order, that the amendment could not be put, inn*; much as it involved a question of public expenditure. A godd deal of discussion ensued over this point. It wae maintained by Mr Eolibstojt that Sir J. Vogel, when Premier, gave an equivalent to a promise that Provincial officers should be dealt with in a liberal spirit, but Mr M'Lbait replied that what Sir J. Vogel did promise was that, any cases of special hardship should bo taken into favourable consideration.

It was then moved ‘‘ That - progress be rewrted,” in order to test; the question raised in le-awl to Provihcial offiiArs. Tlie House divided, tfie result 'being Nobs ■«: Axes 23.-..;-'-

The proceeding were’interrupted at 5.30:

BVENINGBITTING. The House resumed at "7.30 p.m. . The Civil Service: Act Amendment Bill went through Committee, The ■•'ale of Food and; Drugs Act Amend; meat Bill and Cruelty to Animals Bill were passed. AWOrnSBD DEBATE OS' THH ELECTORAL BIEL. Mr E. Reeves wbuld ’support the "lovernincnt measure, as- with., few alterations it would meet all 'the 'requirements of the Colony for some time " to; come. He wanted the household qualification altered from-an annual value of £lO to £6, and the residence clause altered;

Mr Thouso* said there was no general demand on the part- of the country for man-' hood suffrage. In conridering this question, it should bo remembered that Parliament was only a large board of, works, which for'the past year had been, liviag- oh the Canterbury land fund, and if that fiul not realised'more Uian anticipated, instead of a surplus of £lO-0,000, there would have been a’largo, deficiency. Now they proposed to tax poo-, perty and land to a large extent, while side by side they proposed to introduce manhood suffrage, two propositions that did not run on all fours. He considered manhood suffrage was on it* trial in America and Victoria, and the wisdom of it was still a moot question. It was claimed for manhood suffrage that’ it would educate the people in public matter*, yet the Attorney-General m ; hi»artiele on the Melbourne Jteeiew deplored that the wealthy and cultured class -in Victoria did not take that interest in puWio affairs that they Could they expect that the same state of affairs would not ensue here? lie considered woman suffrage a men. matter of sentiment, and he would vote against this part of the Bill, whatever he did as regards the rest. Mr Russell would rapport the Bill, as he claimed to be animated by as liberal sentiments as any gentleman on the other side of the House. He disapproved of the Bill, of the member for Wailuto as not calculated to produce the results claimed for it. In the Government Bill, he thought the' educational test ought to be made more stringent, H« r also disapproved, of the special franchise extended to the Maori*. No man in the country; should have two distinct vote*. ' The,, system wae at once, monstrous qpd' anomalous. No man who could not read or write should be allowed a vote A man so ignorant could only . he. a pliant’tool in the.' hands of designing politicians. He confessed be was pleasantly surprised to find the ,Government bringing in such a Bill, a* from his put knowledge of the Fremiec be expected him to assume a Napoleonic attitude towards the House and country.:. He was glad tut the colleagues of the hoh/geotlemno bad oobm effect in modifying': his Cltre-Demoesatic. views. .U " Jj

Mr Cutter could not see that the Bill would make muoh diifordace one way or, the other, still he was hot prepared to rote for; female suffrage. Thgt (danse he carried without mature o(ihtideratioa. A« cither went too far or not far enough. ! It appeared to him that the- eex of - w'omeH •lumld be a sufficient bar to women entering that House. In foot, ho could wt treat the subject as serious. Imagine, snob a potti* Wily as a woman eontosUng • seat against her husband. He would 1 vote against the second reading unl*M Goverajpect abandoned tbatclaasa., ... Mr Tubybull would rapport the Bill, as ho thought nothing cauld be more’ conduoife towards the laying the foundation. of <ia JSBW and great notion. -- Ho agreed with tho, fog*’ £cstion of the member for Grey Valley Mlarding the household qualiflbfdtoa, bat the residential clause he hoped .would not* be ultered. Strangers - coming into the country ought not to be allowed to vote fo.' Pnee,. Ai- '« plural voting, he that in, rfolT I’ ! , J ,,ie . btod tax ■. to’.’ uuiuei! vf propert/ in two diefnri* iltould'

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; ftSsiag^iaasassa entitled to.i a j jot* det barred from becoming -a member of the ■ : landed moprif.torf .Qf IhojjCqJqjiy were nbt tj» i teeMthyAss*'« thertfote they 'i r?.?L“ 0 ° but to'tHraWopon the f Wfc#*®oto in tfxrßtoto 'WtsVbry mafr/ ,a 1 i SHERnIK.Boid Tegardinf. the L Iwoman franchise, Government-- treateditas f to l open question. HeTor one did-nof-’approve of it. He believed thewonien themselves did jOdt want the franchise.-, Hoeonsidored the admission - : made-' by ; the - "-” moiaber for .. |Napilbr r ! regarding jducmg better measures 4hf«t ho expected becaiffS; ThA; hM(.'. gepUaman ,4 Jhe head of.;, .lie . fjo^enfiaont'' always bad the good of thecountry 4 heart. Ho .wanted:. «pen tohave ; 'a yoioo in the country, mob sheep. It was high time the Owners Of Ibroad mores were shorn of some of the power jthsy;bad'loQg(wieldedj:*nd made W/bote. tribute in fair .proportion, to the burdens of ;bhe country; and if they would not do it .yQltogly, they would*’bo''ooi&pelledto doM; On the question of Maori rbpresentation. W believfcdtho Maori-- members oTtlra Hbitab Save theit votes as oonsoiontiously as other (members. . Nodouhttha country, was anxious (to see the double Maori vote doneaway with, :but the time, uot arriyod wljcn Ujoy eonld jdo that, it was well to retain the qualiCca'■Bon based upon rating, inosatmoh as It tabgbt ithe Maoris and encouraged _ .them :to pay rates. This system had been tin existence for, 15 years, and Its prayed tho House- not to abolish it hurHfcdly. ‘ Even, iif it was only to give the. Maoris no cause for .complaint they .should not take away the (privileges they'had bcon in the enjoyment of for so many wan. Hd believed that lb', Sve yaara’- tiraekho House - would - be able to -ask She Maoris to; give u|> the double rote and . that they would he quite Willing to do so.‘He hoped the. House would opposo thi» ; port ofitqe Bill. Jiy.; a -large majontv; .ffedilfeirtl: (entirely from the principles orthe ’Bill: intro- : duoed by the .member; fob .Waikato;-though SlO doubted as to its .being the teal simonpure, and that it was, brought iu with the object claimed for .it by -the-; mover. As ■to tiie.HriNMudta Ytoidal by)' the; •■msm--her for Napier regarding the Premier, it Appeared to him that m higher-tribute could -be paid to the Premier than to say that,'after addressing thousands in. the .OoloDj, r he did (not do all he said he intended to do. No ; he Showed his wisdom and real for the Colony by allowing his opinion, to be modiCed by the advice and. experience of his colleagues. .Ho hoped the importance of the measure would' secure its consideration upon its meritsj and; not as a .party measure.., .. , The debate is continuing (10 p.nl.} - ■ ' [PBOM OTTB «WK COUBBSPOifDSNT.] - ■ WEtLIKQTOIf, August 20. For the last couple of dpy s there have been 'various rumours afloat-in the lobbies about the Government intending to bring down a proposal for-insular separation.. /Phis was hinted at in an odmistakeable manner in the Times this morning, and alarm has prevailed 'emcc. Some large property sales advertised for to-day were postponed in consequence, Bp far as I hare been .able to, gather dp the; best authority the thing is a perfect candriT without a shadow of f oundation. ‘ .The movement in favour of a substantial testimonialV.being voted to Sir J. ■ Vpgol is taking shape, sad a majority for -itisconiJdentily spoken of. : Oh the other side it is . talked of as being merely a dodge to provide Sii- J. Vogel witn the moans of returning-to ■New Zealand, to re-enter the political j Considerable opposition is expressed regarding the program me agreed upon yesterday for the memben \ Southern trip, owingtp the loss 'of time involved!. Mr Bastings accordingly gave notice to-day that. the House,- on its rising at'6.Bo oh Thursday, Sep!;.' 5, adjourn to the following Tuesday at 2.30, to enable the trip to be made in that.time.' ■ To-day Mr Macandrew, in reply to Mr Nichardson, promised that h new clock shourd |be -placed in the Christchurch Government buildings.;