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YESTERDAY’S PARLIAMENT, Issue 15638, 31 October 1914
LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL. The following 1 Sill? were passed with amendment; — Inspection <»1 Machinery, Wellington .Milk Supply. War Contributions. Valuation Mortgages Extension Act Amendment. The New Zealand Leans Act Amendment Hill was passed without amendment. Tim Tensions Act Amendment Hill was put through all stages. E DUG ATI OX TILL, 'Che managers at the conference on the Education Bill presented their report. The Minister (Hon. F. H. I). Bell) explained that the representatives of the Council had, with regard to district councils, so far waived its amendment as to provide lor district advisory committees, which the Minister might cadi together to advise and icport to him. The Councils objection to the selection of the boards from urban school coimnitteef had neen submitted to by the House. There would be urban popular elections of school committees. but not of education boards. The Council had allowed the provision as to the iucl#don of the chi--? medical officers as members of boards to ho excised. With regard to tire section an tu religious and moral instruction, the Council had yielded, and allowed the House, to obtain the proviso for what it might be worth. He moved that the finding of the conference be adopted.—After a short discussion the motion was agreed to, and the Council adjourned at 8.40 until 11 o’clock to-mor-row. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. In presenting the report of the Labor Bills Committee on behalf of the chairman (Hon. d. A. Millar), the Prime Minister mentioned that gentlemans early ictirement from active politics, and spoke in eulogistic terms of his great services to the Dominion. In replv to Mr Xgata, the Prime Minister said he would see that provision was made for the members of tho Maori contingent to record their votes at the General Flection. The amendments made by the Legislative Council in the Land Laws _Amendment Bill, the Roman Catholic Bishop of Auckland Empowering Bill, the Wcl.iu;;ton Milk Supply Bill, and the Wager. Pro tection Bill wore agreed to. Tho Reserves and Other LanfL Disposal Bill was read a first time. LOAN X EGOTIATIOXS. The Leader of the Opposition asked the Minister of Finance whether the cablegram published the previous day describing certain tinancial arrangements made by the High Commissioner find reference to the assurance of the British Government that thev would guarantee the X<nv Zealand war loan, whether the amount raised was at per cent., if this was tho arrangement about which the Minister said recently he was unable to give the House any information, ami it the loan wa.y tho one which the Minister said ho had boon able to get on bettor terms than any other Dominion. The Minister of Finance (Hon. Mr Allen) said that, while wishing to give Tie High Commissioner every credit for what he "had done, the negotiations did not start with him. Thev were started in New Zealand before 'Mr Mackenzie saw the Right. Hon. Lloyd Geoige or anyone, else. He (Mr Allen)'had asked Mr Mackenzie to see what could be done, and be bad invited the other High Commissioner.-, to co-operate with him, and the, result was very much as doscrilied in tne cable. Ihe rate of interest was not necessarily 44 per cent. What tho rate was he could not disclose, having been icipiested by the British Government to observe secrecy, but if tho Right Hou. tho Leader of the Opposition did not believe him he should have availed himself of the offer ho (Mr Allen) had made to show him in confidence the official file. The rate of interest mentioned in the cable was roe maximum rate, and in support of that statement he again offered to show Sir Joseph the tile n he desired to see it. Sir Joseph Ward said lie did not doubt the Minister’s word. He only, a.-Ued for information. IRON AND STEEL INDUSTRIES. After the supper adjournment the Iron and Steel Industries Bill was taken in committee. In moving its second reading the Minister (Hon. W. Fraser) explained tiiat the Bill was intended to induce capitalists to take up these industries and develop them. Mr Webb said the point was not whether the State could afford to nationuliso. the industry, but whether it could 1 afford to allow it to slip out of its hands. | He sincerely hoped tho amendment would be carried.
Mr Andersen opposed Stale enterprise in the iron industry. Where would tho people of Southland come in? They would only come in by footing the bill. He con-temd-ed that tb.e people vreve makwg uu a lose of £25,000 a year <m the State coal industry. He contended that the State could riot compete with private enterprise in this imiuntr.f.
In the- course of further discussion, Mr Bradney said lie wished to place on record figures which would chow that the State could not profitably manage enterprises. So far, State enterprises had not proved successful, and he instanced the coalmines. The natural resources of the country would never be developed if they waited for State enterprise. 'The liOaaer of the Opposition said that great care should bo taken to see that no option was given to an exploiting company. He thought, on the whole, that the State should undertake this work itself, but if it could not do so, only a working company should control these industries. Mr Russell urged that the control of thcec vast mineral deposits should bo in the hands of the Government, and the State should undertake the development of the mineral areas. He moved an amendment to the motion to go into committee that the State take in hand (he development of the iron industry. Mr (!l»ver held that tho development of the iron industry should not be left to State enterprise. Ho contended that the Government would not have done half ns much for the development of the Taranaki oil deposits as private companies had done. Mr Ell heartily supported the amendment. lie was riot in favor of the State control of every industry, hut such a national asset as iron deposits should be worked for the benefit of the whole country. The amendment was defeated. Ae. soon ns tho House wont into committee on the Bill a pronounced stonewall was set up on the snort title. At 2.10 wm. the Bill was reported, with amendments which altered Clause 11 to give the Government power to take over works at any lime after March 31. 1928, 1 without consideration for compensation. Tho debate* on the third reading was continued by Messrs Payne and Young. Tit© Hon. IV. Fraser, in reply, said he was surprised, at the reception the Bill had mot. He had put it on the. Ministerial programme as an entree. However, the Bill would go through, and he hoped it would do pood. Trie Bill was then road a. third time and passed • AMENDMENTS ABSENTED TO. The amendment# in the Pensions Amendment. Inspection of Machinery, and \<>w Zealand Loans Amendment Bills were ’greed to. EDUCATION' BILL TROUBLE OVER. Ar tho result of a conference between tho two Houses on the subject of the council’s amendments, to the Education Bill, it was reported that (he chief features were the setting up of advising committees, instead of district councils, and tho retention of tho existing right of boards to admit teachers of religion for half an hour during school week.—These woiv agreed to. and iho Bill was reported with amendments. The House rose at 2.40 a.m.
YESTERDAY’S PARLIAMENT, Issue 15638, 31 October 1914
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