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POLITICAL GOSSIP., Issue 10469, 12 November 1897
[Fbom Ocb Parliamentary Reporter.] WELLINGTON, November 12. Uentnl Examinations. A petition was presented to the House yesterday by Mr James Allen on behalf of Messrs \V. M. Stenhouse and S. S. Myers, members the Board of Examiners of the Dental Association, asking for the amendment v of the dental law. The petitioners wish legislation introduced providing (1) that no dental student shall present himself for examination until he has attained the age of twenty-one years, and can produce a certificate that he has passed a preliminary examination at the University of Otago; and (2) that he can produce a certificate of attendance at the following classes at the University, the time so spent to be reckoned as part of his apprenticeship:— Anatomy, general and practical (dissections), physiology, pathology and chemistry, including pharmacy and theraputics. The petitioners assert that the enactment of the first provision is urgent and absolutely necessary. v Another Holiday for the lords. After the adjournment of the Council till Wednesday had been moved, the Hoh. W, H. Reynolds asked whether it was not possible for the Government to introduce some Bills into the Council for that body to consider. The Council had met for two months and had done no work.—The Hon. R. Oliver observed that this Parliament would turn out very little legislation. This he considered not a matter to be deplored, as the country was suffering from too much legislation. This provoked from the Minister of Education the retort that all the Government business this session was of such a character that it could not bo introduced in the Upper Chamber. local Hills. When the House met yesterday afternoon it was apparently in a mood fur business, and after some formal matters had been disposed of local Bills came on for consideration. The Wellington City Empowering Bill, which proposes to give the borough power to borrow for certain local works, was strongly opposed'in committee by Mr Fisher and others, but ultimately a proviso was inserted, on the motion of the Premier, that before any bank shall grant any overdraft against revenue it shall be imperative that the application shall bo accompanied by a statement in writing by the town clerk and treasurer showing that such moneys can be legally borrowed. It was decided, in reepect to borrowing for street widening, that a poll of the ratepayers shall be taken before that part of the Act be put into force. The measure eventually passed its first stages, as also did the Otago Harbor Board Bill and the Invercargill Public Offices Site Act Amendment Bill. Otago Harbor Board Bill. After Mr Millar had piloted this measure through committee, Mr E. 6. Allen wanted to move a new clause, but the Chairman of Committees ruled that he had lost his opportunity, the preamble having been passed. The member for Waikouaiti, who as a new member has not been able to grapple with the intricacies of the Standing Orders, was quite bewildered at this ruling. He, however, soon had his milled feelings smoothed when it was explained that on a Bill being reported to the Speaker a motion for its recommittal would be in order. This course was adopted, and Mr Allen explained that his proposal would be in the direction of compelling a portion of the moneys released under the Bill to be spent on works at the Otago Heads. As an old member of the Board he informed the House that out of the thirteen members all were resident in Dunedin except the three gentlemen representing Port Chalmers. Even the Government nominees were, he pitifully represented, Dunedin residents. Mr Millar explained that a portion of the £II,OOO released would be spent on tho very work which was claiming the attention of the member for Waikouaiti.—(Sir R. Stout: “ Tlje whole of it.”) On being put to the House that the Bill be recommitted a storm of “ Noes ” was raised, so the motion was not persisted in, and the measure passed its final stages. University of Otago leasing BUI. It wanted but ten minutes to the dinner adjournment when the University of Otago Site and Leasing Bill oime up, so, in the hope of getting the second reading affirmed, Mr Scobie Mackenzie contented himself by briefly explaining that the object of the measure was twofold—regulating tho leasing of the Board’s endowments and giving authority to sell the Barewood and Museum endowments, so that the proceeds might be utilised for the benefit of the University. The Minister of Lands said that, .as a settler in Otago of thirtyseven years’ standing, and as one" who had taken part in the setting aside of endowments, he objectid to the sale of the Barewood reserves. He contended that this was a cul-and-dried affair, and that the University Council knew who would be the purchaser of the Barewood Estate, which comprised 31,000 acres. This endowment had been mismanaged, he asserted, by the -University Council, and it had been allowed to become a rabbit warren. The authorities had been demanding for it more rent than it was worth. The Minister succeeded in talking out the matter, and the prospects of the Bill again coming up this session are remote. A Determined Stonewall. The vexed question of proportional representation on committees again cropped up in the House last night, when Mr Guinness moved for a committee of selection, to consist of the Hon. W. Hall-Jones, Mr George Hutchison, Mr Joyce, Major Steward, and the mover. It was pointed out by the Opposition.that the Committee comprised four Government supporters and only one. member (Mr Hutchicon) from their side of the House. The Premier offered to place an additional member representing the Opposition on the Committee. ' ’• To this answer was made tbabAte Standing Orders only permitted of tmfuornnuttee -consisting of five members.
Captain Bussell and those supporting him appealed to the Premier to strike out the name of one of the Government nominees' suggested and make the representation in the proportion of three to two.
Mr Seddon proving deaf to these entreaties, a determined stonewall was set up. Prominent among those who had evidently cultivated with loving care this art is Mr Herries. In a discourse occupying half an hour he held forth upon the abstract prin- . oiples of Justice, elucidating his, thesis by many and apposite up-to-date illustrations. His flood of eloquence, as he modestly put it, setm-jd quite spontaneous, and the House believe 1 him when he laughingly expressed his sincere willingness to speak • right on for two or three days. A ‘‘stonewall ” is often a dreary' thing, but it became almost interesting and quite amusing when it was carried on in an easy, breezy, genial, and jovially humorous style natural to Mr Herries. Finding little hope of the motion coming to a division, Mr Holland ultimately moved the adjournment of the debate. This brought Captain Russell to his feet to protest against the adjournment.' He was proceeding to give reasons why the Committee should be set up that night, but was confined by the Speaker strictly to the motion of adjournment. After several verbal conflicts between the Speaker and Captain Russell, the Speaker warned the Leader of the Opposition that he was becoming irrelevant, and Captain Russell reluctantly sat down. The Premier followed and wished to ex. plain, but was promptly warned that he, too, was becoming irrelevant, whereupon he diffidently followed the example of the Leader of the Opposition. Messrs Pirani and Heke were more successful in keeping to the subject, ■ Sir Robert Stout supported the adjournment. ' Mr Graham fell into a hole by moving the previous question. Mr Speaker asked for a seconder, and it certainly appeared to the Press gallery and to a number of members of ’the House that both the Minister of Lands and Mr Mills seconded the amendment. The Speaker' explained that the effect of the motion would be to reopen the whole debate, whereupon Mr Graham hastily disclaimed any idea of moving the previous question. Sir G. M. O’Rorke, despite the protests of the Opposition, ruled that the motion bad not been proposed. The debate was then taken up by Mr Buchanan. Continuing his observations after the enpper adjournment, the member for Wairarapa invited the Premier to afford some indication of what business he proposed to take if the adjournment of the debate were carried. Mr Seddon rose to say that he did net propose to set up railways or mines committees, but to take such committees as contained names in proportion to the strengh of parties and would not be objected to. Unless these committees wero appointed certain Bills that had to go before them would be jeopardised. Captain Russell said it appeared to him that none of the committees would be acceptable without adjustment. Continuing his remarks, Mr Buchanan claimed to be a loyal party man, who always followed his leader. He expressed a hope that the lesson taught the Premier that night would prevent him iu future from moving the adjournment of debates without a valid reason. Mr Scobie Mackenzie, who followed, floundered about hopelessly in his endeavors to escape being brought within the notice of the Chair in deferring to the main question, and on more than one occasion he had to submit to a threat of being called on to discontinue his speech for introducing irrelevant matter. “ You are right, sir, as you usually ' are,” senteatiously observed the senior member for Dunedin, and he then “brought down the house ” by producing an immense dictionary belonging to the parliamentary library and by quoting to hen. members the meaning of the word “ adjournment.” With feigned indignation Mr Monk pic- t tured to the House his horror at being kept in Wellington over Christmas time, and objected to what he described as a purposeless adjournment, the effect of which must necessarily be to delay the business of the country. It still wanted a few minutes to midnight, . up to which hour new business can be brought on, so Mr Herries filled the breach with a humorous speech. At 12 5 a.m. the motion for the adjournment of the debate was put and carried on the voices, and the House rose. Aiulil anil Treasury. When the late Mr Fitzgerald was AuditorGeneral the relations between the Audit and Treasury Departments were un-, doubtedly strained. Judging by the bulky correspondence laid on the table of the House yesterday and outlined in my yesterday’s message concerning the Treasury’s unwillingness to back up the AuditorGeneral in his contentions re tho failure of the Mines Department, these relations do not seem to have gone on to a better footing under Mr Warburton’a rdgime. Jottings. The second reading of the Wages Protection Bill was moved in the House last night pro forma, and the Bill referred to the Local Bills Committee. The Land and Income Assessment Bill has, at the Premier’s instance, been referred to the Public Accounts Committee. “I must obey your ruling, though I confess I don’t agree with it.”—The' Leader of the Opposition, being checked by the Speaker in giving reasons why the adjournment of a debase should not be carried. The Sunday Labor in Mines Bill, the Explosive Prevention Bill, and the Explo-' sives Act Amendment Bill have passed their stages in the House.
POLITICAL GOSSIP., Issue 10469, 12 November 1897
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