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DUNEDIN PRESBYTERY., Issue 8027, 2 October 1889
The Dunedin branch of the Presbytery of Otago and Southland met this morning, the moderator (the Rev. D. Dutton) presiding. There were present—Dr Stii&rt, Dr Watt, ReVa. VV. Will, J. Kirkland, J. M. Sutherland, J. Ryley, J. Gibson-Smith, D. Borrie, W. Campbell, A. Greig, A. Don, J. Christie, A. M. Finlayson, A. Cameron, fe. R. M. Sutherland, and J. M. Fraser, Messrs A. Cameron, \V. Hutton, 6. Reid, D. Thornsob, J. Paterson, and D. Hood, COMMISSIONS. The following commissions were approved: —Port Chalmers, j. Sutherland ;, North Taieri, J. Findlay ; East Taieri, W. Jaffray; VVaikouaili, J. Scott ; Green Island, J. Taylor ; First Church, J. Niven; Anderson Bay, Thomas Sutherland. MEETINGS OF PRESBYTERY. The Clerk furnished particulars of the number of meetings, ordinary and otherwise, of the Presbytery, together with the number of meetings attended by each member.—Mr J. M. Sutherland considered it unnecessary to continue the practice, and Dr STuArt gave notice of motion to the effect that particulars re attendance of members at each meeting be entered in the minute-book. THE RAVENSBOURNE CHURCH.
The Rev. Mr Borrie said that, as one of the deputation appointed by the Presbytery to meet the congregation of the Ravensbourne Church regarding the affairs of that church, he would like to intimate that the question of wine had been deferred until the minister for the church had been appointed, Until tliat time two tables would be used for fermented and unfermented wine. Regarding the appointing of a minister, the Presbytery had appointed a committee to moderate in a call, which the deputation had granted. The members of the deputation had met the congregation on Monday last, and it was then decided that the Rev. J. Mackenzie, of Southland, should bo called. The call had been left until this morning—which, in reality, meant last night, because the church was not open all tho time—and he found that* as a result the call had been signed by fifty-four members of the church and thirty-one adherents of the congregation t but if it was sent back for two more Sabbaths it would doubtless be more largely signed. He considered there was every probability of the question of unfermented or fermented wine being settled in an amicable manner. As he had said, there was every opportunity of a hearty settlement of the question being arrived at, although, of course, there would be a little feeling over the wine until it ceased to ferment.—(Laughter.) He would move—“ That the call be sustained, and forwarded to Southland to be placed in the hands of the Rev. Mr Mackenzie ; but that it lie at the church for the next two Sabbaths for additional signatuies.” Dr Stuart seconded the motion, and said he had great pleasure in doing so. He had taken a kindly interest in the Ravensbourue Church, and for some considerable time he had fondly hoped that the Presbytery would supply tho spiritual wants of the whole people there. He had not yet lost that hope, Mr Mackenzie was well known to take particular interest in tho young, and if he were led by God to look favorably upon the call the result he (Dr Stuart) had long looked for might be attained. Mr Paterson asked if the Presbytery could sanction an arrangement to have two kinds of communion wine at two separate tables.—(Mr Will : “ Hear, hear.”) It seemed to him a strange, an extraordinary thing. Tho Rev. D. Borrie said that the question referred to by Mr Paterson was not before the Presbytery. The sanction of the Presbytery was not asked to the arrangement, and, indeed, he thought that the two wines would not be used.
The Rev. IV. VA’ill was extremely glad that Mr Borrie had expressed the opinion that the question was in a fair way of being settled. He did not think that it was proper for two sections of a congregation to sit down at different tables. It would tend to create immense mischief this using of fermented and unfermented wine at the communion table. The Rev. Mr Borrie’s motion was carried item, di*., and the mover was appointed by the Presbytery to sustain the decision ofjthat body. CHALMERS CHURCH. The Clerk read u memorial which had been received from a member of Chalmers Church. It was to be forwarded to the Synod through tho Presbytery. Thememorialist(Mr J. Wood), after referring at length to the action of the Presbytery, against which he complained, prayed as follows : “ To declare unconstitutional the action of the said Presbytery in permitting a charge seriously reflecting upon said congregation to be opened up again and again by motion after having dealt with and disposed of the subject matter of that charge ; to declare unconstitutional the conduct of said Presbytery in dealing with a serious charge against said congregation behind its back and without notice; to dismiss the aforesaid reference and grant such other and further relief as your reverend court may deem just.” It was agreed to forward the memorial to the Synod. The Revs. J. Ryley and J. Gibson-Smith were appointed to state the reference of the Presbytery, and the Revs, W. Will and A. M. Finlayson were appointed to defend the proceedings of tho Presbytery in the matter of the memorial. AN ASSOCIATE. The Rev. D, Borrie said that he had much pleasure in introducing to the Presbytery the Rev. J. W. Waldey, Presbyterian minister, of Orkney, Scotland. He read several recommendations from the Synods in Scotland, and said that he applied for work. He would move—“ That the application of Mr Waldey be referred to the Synod, and that in the meantime he be recommended to the Church Extension Committee for employment.” COMMITTEE ON RILLS. The Rev. A. Cameron and Mr J. Paterson were appointed members of the Synod’s Committee on Bills. STANDING COMMITTEE. It was decided, on the motion of the Rev, Mr Cameron, that the Revs. Mr Finlayson, Mr Borrie, and the Moderator, and Messrs Paterson and Thomson be elected a standing committee. THE OTAGO CENTRAL. Dr Stuart moved—“ That the Revs. J. M. Sutherland and Kirkland be appointed to visit the whole district between the Taieri and Strath Taieri, and report to the Presbytery.” He then referred to the prospecting work that was being carried on at the Barewood and Museum Runs, and at Nenthorn, and hoped that shortly they would receive reports of the work being carried on in those and other districts. The motion was carried unanimously. APPLICATIONS FOR GRANTS. The Rev. Mr Will asked the Presbytery to recommend the Synod to grant L3OO for the repairing of the East Taieri Church. That church had, he said, contributed a large sum of money to the funds of the Synod, but had received very little in return. This was not an application for £ for £, but the church really deserved the grant, as tho money paid to tho church was considerably below that granted to others. Tho Rev. Mr Cameron objected to the Presbytery making such a recommendation as suggested by the Rev. Mr Will, It was a departure from their usual practice, and although he would not propose a motion to the contrary he would oppose the request being granted. The motion for the recommendation to the Synod was carried, HOME mission work. The Rev, D, Borrie submitted the report of the Homo Mission Committee, which stated that their efforts had met with a fair amount of success. The conferences of the Presbytery with the office-bearers excedecd the expectations of the Committee, the office bearers having showed an earnest, intelligent, and sympathetic interest in the matter; and the Committee confidently look for good results from the interest and cooperation of such a body of Christian workers. The conferences with the congregations of the City and suburban churches had also been carried out with as large an amount of success as could reasonably be expected. The attention of church mem-
bers had been directed to the importance and blessedness of their personally engaging in some such work for Christ, aild the responsibility of the church tor the welfare of those atound her, all of which would surely lead to an awakened spiritual earnestness. In many of the congregations an attempt woiild be madb to begin horhe mission work in the districts allotted to kheih oh. the lines laid down by the Committee, while some had already begun to work vigorously. The report concluded by hoping that good work would in time result from the movement thus inaugurated: DATE OP SYNOD SESSION. The Rev. A. Cameron said that with Regard to the neit session of Synod—which would be Held in November—he would move—" That the Synod adjourn after the formal opening, and resume during Exhibition time.” This proposal did not meet with the favor o£ those present, who referred to the tax it would make on the hospitality of town residents who were in the habit of entertaining country members of Synod; After some disciission an amendment to th'e Contrary was carried. The Presbytery adjourned at 1.45.
DUNEDIN PRESBYTERY., Issue 8027, 2 October 1889
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