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At yesterday’s sitting of the Wellington Police Court the convict Chemis said that Detective Campbell examined the box of dynamite caps and put it back in the same place. Benjamin was standing by at the time. The powder flask was lying by the side of the shot flask. There was also in the drawer a tin of blasting powder which he had ground up himself. In another tin money was kept. He took some out that day at dinner time—a sovereign and a few shillings. He did not think he left any in. The police looked at everything in the drawer. Witness corroborated Dy veil’s evidence as to the purchase of a wad-cutter. He cut the wads with it which were in the corner of the drawer. Witness mentioned other articles in the drawee confirming his wife’s eviden «in this respect. He believed the wads were lying loose in the drawer. He had had no opportunity since his arrest of talking with his wife about these things. He did not know whether she had yet given her evidence. He had used his gun to shoot quail on Wednesday and Thursday morn- | ing that week. They were in a tin on ' Saturday, June 1, on a shelf in the kitchen. Detective Benjamin took down 1 the tin and looked in, but said 1 nothing. There were some bullets in J the drawer which he bad obtainad from a man named Gibson, of Kaiwarra. He * got them because there were some wild pigs on the land he had from Hawkins. He Used some, but they were too small for bis gun. 1 There were no fragments of newspaper in the 1 bundle defendant took out of the bedroom to * Inspector Thomson. He had the quail for dinner on Sunday. The police left the re--1 volver on the shelf, near the tin containing 1 the quail, and the documents lying on the | table. He put both back. He kept a revolver like everybody else—because he was living in a bad place. It had been loaded 1 about eighteen months or two years. The J police took away the gun on Sunday morning, and he told them be wished they had taken it on the previous evening, as there were people about and he did not like to be suspected. Benjamin then said “ Were you anywhere last Friday night?’’ Witness answered “ No; every night when I come home I have an hour or an hour and a-half’s •work before me.” 'Witness described his actions on the evening of the murder, fle i knocked off work about 4.30, and wore the i same clothes as he was arrested in. He i arrived at his gate at about ten minutes or a quarter to five. Saw his wife in the cowi shed. He roped up the calf so that Mrs Chemis might milk its mother. He went to i the hay loft and took down a handful of bay and a oaskful of mangolds. He did not leave the premises that night, nor did he use a gun, stiletto, or shot pouch. By Mr Bell: Was in Kaiwarra on Satur- ; day morning, June 1. He delivered milk as . usual that morning. He did not think he - Collected any money that morning, but could not be sure, He could not swear one way or the other. He was told on his rounds by Jack Mack that Hawkins had been killed, 1 but did not understand he bad been tnnr 1 dered, Charles Collins told witness that Hawkins was hurt, and Dr Cahill had oome up in a hurry. He went home and had breakfast and returned to work, being at Kaiwarra about eight o’clock. He did not hear that Hawkins had been murdered till the afternoon. No, he was wrong; it was in the morning, before dinner. He remembered now the barmaid at the Rainbow Hotel told him and Mr Coulter that there had been foul play. He could not say whether he told hie wife at dinner time; he ceuld not remember. He reached borne on Saturday about half an hour or threequarters of an hour before the police arrived. He did not remember whether he spoke to his wife. He was outside the house chopping firewood when the police came. After looking over his clothes they went outside, because there would be more light there. Asked as to who lit the lamp, witness first said he thought he did himself, but afterwards could not be sure. He was certain no candles were lit when they went outside. He lit them when they came In, (Mrs Chemis had explicitly stated that her husband was not taken out for the sake of light. She also said Benjamin lit the lamp himself.) There were no fragments of paper in the handkerchief taken out to Inspector Thomson, Mr Bell asked why, when called , U pon by the Judge to say why sentence should not be passed upon him, Chemis did not mention this. Witness said that, in such a dreadful position, he only spoke what first came into his mouth. He could not say why he did not mention the paper in his statement to the Governor. Mr Bell: I invite yon to explain it now. Witness; I mm* have forgotten It. The evidence of Dy veil and others was read to

him during his interview with Mr JelUoM in prison. These were the witnesses Mr Bunny hsd subpoenaed at his request to give evidence in the Supreme Coart He didnot tell Benjamin when looking at the gun that he had quail in the house; but when looking it the tin he believed he said: “ Them is quail ; I fired the gun," as his wife was in the kitchen at the time. He also mentioned it again on the Sunday, and drew the attefi* tion of Benjamin and Campbell to the fact. He had pointed out the quail to them. He plucked the quail close to the fire and threw the feathers in it, but did not show the birds to the police when they were there on Sunday. It was quite a usual thing to kill two quail with one shot. He had killed five or six, and hie brother John once killed nine with one shot. He bad killed two rabbits with one shot. He got twelve bullets from Gibson and fired off three. As they did not fit his gun he used to put paper on top as when loading with shot. He was sure be did not wrap paper round the bullet. The police left one bullet behind when they Went aWay. With re!e> rence to the money in the tin hot, td till best of his belief he took out all there wait and there was none in it when the police Were searching, (Mrs Chemis deposed that there was L7or L Bin it.) Had a sheath knife, but was not accustomed to carry it. Had bad the stiletto since the waterworks Were fiuishedt fie last took it out six months ago and put shfte Salad oil ob it, as it was rusting. The stiletto was sharp It the point, and never bent. If it was pent bow he Would hot lerotmi for It. (The stiletto was shown to prisoner, Whe efc> Eressed surprise at the point being ent, and tried to straighten It with his teeth, hut Wal promptly Stopped.) He said it was not so when he last SaW it. He saw the police take a handkerchief into the parlor. He did not ale &by frags ments'of a newspaper put into it there. No newspaper was taken out of the children’s room ; in fact, he saw no paper taken out at all except what was taken out of his own pockets ; at any rate not so far as he coaid see, and he saw pretty well everything that was done, fie could say positively they could not have picked up four or five pieces in the children's room. He could not remember whether he went out with his gun on the Queen’s Birthday. He did lend bll gun and some ammunition one day td Greaves and John Dowd. He had not bought shot for a long time. He had a leg of mutton for dinner on Sunday. (Mrs Chemis deposed it was beef.) fie did not have quail for tea. He ate one for dinner, and supposed the family ate the rest, He did not see the quail on the table at tea. There was no one with them, (Mrs Chemis had said she gave John Dowd, her brother-in-law, one of the quail for tea.) He had seen Hawkins while the lawsuit between them was pending. He spoke to him, but never threatened him, Hawkins summoned him for some surveying, and one morning witness met him and told him he would let him offforLso. Witness told him that he was always wanting money. “ Yon blooming devil, you are never satisfied," were the words be used. On another occasion, about four months ago, he told Hawkins he did not want his children to beat witness’s; he might just as well give witness a slap himself, and not take revenge on the children, Hawkins said he was quite mistaken; it was not his children who had done it. Mr Jcllicoe asked that Benjamin, who had hitherto been released on his own recognisance, should be required to find bail, but Mr Graham said to alter the matter now would look as though he were expressing an opinion on the case, and the point was not PreßSed ’ WELLINGTON, August 27The cross-examination of Chemis was resumed this morning. The right hand drawer contained no newspapers; only bills, Italian letters, and documents, fie replaced a number of articles in the drawer after the police had made their search. When Inspector Thomson took the stiletto from its sheath he remarked: ‘‘The thing is rusty; we will see it better by daylight.” In re examination he said that his statement to the Governor was written in the Italian language, and he was not aware who translated it. He bad not had a private interview with Mr Jellicoe before that statement was made. At the instance of the gaoler he only put down the more important particulars: it was not a full statement. He knew nothing of the present case, nor what they were investigating. After he was informed that Hawkins had met with foul play he fully expected the houses in the neighborhood of the scene of the murder would be searched by the police. He did not understand the evidence given at the trial by Mr Tasker respecting the pieces of paper; therefore in his statement to the Governor he had not mentioned anything about the fragments of newspapers in the evidence produced before the Governor. There was no newspaper in the handkerchief when it was handed by Detectives Benjamin and Campbell to Inspector Thomson; in fact, the latter said “ there is nothing we want from thsra. These are only letters, bills, and documents.” If anyone used his shot-pouch he would know whether his shot was greased. He had had a powder flask for four or five years; it was repaired a week or fortnight before the death of Hawkins. Dowd was at witness’s house on the Sunday after the murder. _ Robert Dybell was recalled and questioned as to his being frequently in the company of Dowd about the time. He replied that Dowd passed his shop almost every day, and generally dropped in. He denied that he had been in Dowd’s company collecting evidence in Chemis’a favor. Dowd was not present when witness made his statement to Mrs Chemis. John Dowd, brother of Mrs Chemis, said that he frequently went out shooting with Chemis’s gun, which was kept banging in the bedroom. He took shot-pouch, powderflask, caps, and wads from the right drawer. The last time he used the gun was on the Sunday before the murder.

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THE KAIWARRA MURDER., Issue 7996, 27 August 1889

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THE KAIWARRA MURDER. Issue 7996, 27 August 1889

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