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THE KAIWARRA MURDER.

WELLINGTON, August 26. The hearing of the charge of perjury against Deteotive Benjamin was resumed this morning. Henry Norman, living at Balmoral, in the Hntt Valley, was called. He was laboring under very great impediment in his speech, and answers were with difficulty obtained from him. Mr Jellicoe taid he had ascertained that this witness, though subpoenaed for the prosecution, had sought an interview with Mr Bell that morning, and he proposed to treat him as a hostile witness. Mr Bell objected, and Mr Graham (the magistrate) ruled that this could not be done, nor would he allow tho witness to be asked what took place between Mr Bell and himself. Mr Jellicoe asked Mr Graham to take a note of his objection, but he refused to do so. Norman deposed that he was a witness against Chemis, and had written a statement out and given it to Detective Benjamin. He said that a man named Hare yesterday At this point there was a long dispute as to whether Mr Jellicoe could prove that the witness had told to Hare a different story to what he was going to say to-day, and finally he was ruled out of order. He then asked witness whether he had ever told a different story, and Norman denied it. Mr Jellicoe showed him something in a box which witness said he had never seen before. Counsel pressed him closely in a style which led the Magistrate to remark that it looked as ii he was cross-examining his own witness, but Norman stuck to his statement. The article proved to be a shot pouch, but Mr Jellicoe refused to show it to the Court. Witness said he never saw a shot pouch at Hawkins's. Mr Bell wanted to see the pouch for purposes of crass-examiuation, but Mr Jellicoe declined that, saying he wished formally to state that if produced now it would frustrate the interests of justice. Mr Graham said that as the article was not produced to the Court he thought, after what Mr Jellicoe had said, it would be better if Mr Bell did not insist, though he certainly had a right to see it. Mr Bell did insist, and Mr Jellicoe still declined to give the pouch up. Mr Graham said he did not want to be obliged to use force. Counsel for the defence ptoutly maintained his right to the article, but eventually gave way. Mr Graham then ordered that the pouch should not bo taken out of Court, which caused Mr Jellicoe to remark that both ho and tho R.M. would have to live in Court, because the article should certainly not leave bis possession until the ends of justice were satisfied. The witness was not further examined. The Hon. Mr Fergus was called, but did not appear. The Hon. G. F. Richardson said ho had fitted the wads taken from the box produced into Chemis's gun, and fou?d that they fitted very well. He also drove a daeger through the skirt of Hawkins's coat three or four times to see what sort of cuts it made, and tried it onco or twice on a thick rug ; also, on thick paper. He saw the bandbox produced in the Cabinet room, but did not know who cut off the piece round the edge. The remaining members of the Cabinet were called, but none of them appeared. The Premier, who was in Court, was recalled, no objection being taken to this, though he had heard the evidence of the other witnesses. He said that the band-box was not in the same state as when he received it, but ho had not noticed it when first giving evidence. He could not explain how it came to be cut. He had inquired about it, but found out nothing. The exhibits had been kept locked in the Cabinet room till Chemis's case was settled, but were not locked up after that. Mr Jellicoe asked whether the witness heard Mr Bell accuse Mrs Chemis of cutting pieces off the box. Mr Bell said it was untrue, false, and wrong to say that he suggested any such thing. Mr Jellicoe said he had a shorthand note of what Mr Bell said, and this proved who was false. Mr Graham said he had already ruled that questions could not be asked on this point, and ho would not allow the matter to proceed any further. The Premier was not examined further, except that he said he believed he received seven bullets in an envelope, but was not quite euro of the number. Mr Jellicoe intimated that he would not call the other Ministers of the Crown. Chemis deposed that Benjamin came to his house on June 1 with a search warrant, looking for a pocket book stolen from Hawkins. Witness was searched, and his clothes and hands minutely inspected. Questioned as to whether he was wearing the same clothes the previous day, he replied " Yes, and for a week before." Witness related the search made by the police. The gun was not out of the bedroom the day before. One of tho drawers was locked, and the key was handed by witness to Campbell to enable him to search. It was usually kept in a drawer, which was locked, to prevent the children getting at it, as dynamite caps were kept there. Benjamin took the bills, and papers such as bills, letters, etc., from the drawer, but no newspapers. There were none there. The powder flask was alongside the shot pouch, and anybody could 6ee it. Whon Detective Campbell found the stiletto he romarked "There is some dust on it." The stiletto had not been out of its sheath for six months. Chemis was uudcr examination when the Court adjourned for lunch. It is stated that a sheath knife, sharp on both edges and with tho point turned, has been picked up on the scene of the Kaiwarra murder along with a shot pouch.

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THE KAIWARRA MURDER., Issue 7995, 26 August 1889

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THE KAIWARRA MURDER. Issue 7995, 26 August 1889

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