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HANSARD PICKINGS., Issue 7983, 12 August 1889
• ' ADDRESSING TIIE LADIES. We all know that there is very little intention of ever bringing a debate to a close between the hours of half-past seven' and half-past ten. It is only when the ladies are but of the gallery that aDy real business can be done. ' While there is an audience there, people wish to deliver speeches, and a question will not come to the vote.—(Mr Turnbull.) A "skinflint" in private.
Mr Fergus : While sitting in my office one day last ; year, one of the strongest economists in this House came to' me and said that he wanted to get a certain gentleman into the Civil Service. I told him that it was impossible to comply with his request. Ho then said: "Retrenchment is all nonsense ; you are only getting into discredit and disrepute. The country does not want retrenchment." That was the opinion of an hon. gentleman who was strongest in supporting the immense reduction that waß proposed last year. Hon. Members : Name, name. Mr Fergus : I could name the hon gentleman if I liked ; and I could add Borne very curious things about some other hon. gentlemen as well. SITTING ON "DTJNSTAN." Mr Pvke : 1 really do not know how to address" the House. I am really lost. I was attempting to give my reasons why another debate should not be adjourned to-day, when you, sir, called me to order and refused to allow me to proceed. I do not know whether I am wandering, or what I have to" do. I was addressing myself to a matter that I thought pertinent to the question in hand, when you stopped me short Mr Speaker: The hon. gentleman must not refer to a previous debate. MrPyke: Que voukz vous? You know, sir, very well that 1 am anxious to keep within the rules of the House; but where
arc tlicy ? What is the question before the House at the present moment? Mr Speaker : The question that the debate be adjourned, Mr Pyke: Well, I will attempt to give my reasons why it should not be adjourned, if I may be allowed to do so. There is nothing more injurious to the country than the doubtfulness that prevails in the minds of all classes of the community as to future taxation. Is that in order, sir ?
Mr Speaker: No. Mr Pyke : Then I will try another way. I say great injury is being done by this House insisting on keeping measures affecting the trade and business of the country in constant dispute. Merchants do not know what to do ; property owners Mr Speaker: I must rule the hon. gentleman out of order. Please sit down, IMPORT DUTY ON PICTURES. The ancestor of a gentleman who was coming out to this colony had given an order to Hogarth to paint a picture for insertion in a panel in his house, and the picture remained in that position until recently, when the present owner contemplated leaving for New Zealand. He had the picture detached from the panel, and had brought it as far as Sydney, when he discovered for the first time that the picture, on being introduced into New Zealand, would become liable to a duty on its estimated value. It was valued at L 3,000, so that the amount payable upon it in the form of duty would have been LSOO. The gentleman at once changed his intention, and Bent the picture Home again.—(Mr Oliver.) A LAND OF PROMISE. I see in the very heart of the Middle Island a vast country adaptable for carrying a largo population—a happy and contented population. I see that country at the present time in a state of absolute desolation, where the wild wind whistles weirdly through the tall snow grass on the plains, so that when the traveller passes he seems to be passing through a wilderness of ghosts heaving their everlasting Bighs. Every acre of that land is fit for cultivation. Passengers who go across it see that the road is gravel mostly. Of course it is gravel. Any man not a fool or a Government engineer makes the road where the gravel is most apparent. Seeing that people say that it is all gravel; but it is nothing of the sort. The land is full of lime and many other rich and valuable essentials of culture. The land is rich in productions. I defy anyone here to point out any spot elsewhere in God's earth where for twenty-five years you can grow white crops without the least particle of manure; but it is so there. I was laughed at in this House for saying that the corn grew there so tall that, after twenty years
of cropping, the tallest man in this House would not be seen in it. I say that again, and I can prove it by bringing the stalks here. What should you do when you have country like that ? What does Mr Federli say ? He Hays that no country he has seen in the world is bo capable of growing the olive and the mulberry as the Dunstan Plains.—(Mr Pyke.) MEMBERS AS SPECIALS. I have been one of those who have thought for a long time that the fact of persons in this Houso being special correspondents for newspapers is an unmitigated curse. These persons, from their own political standpoint, think that they have a right to try to blacken continuously their opponents. That was the case with the special correspondent of a newspaper further south than the ' Lyttelton Times' for tho first two or three weeks of tho aession. During that time correspondence was sent which could only have been obtained in the lobbies, and with the object of writing detrimentally of political opponents, and of bringing the " special correspondent's" own conduct into favorable notice. 1 suppose the hon. member for Dunedin Central may know tho gentleman I am referring to ; but I am glad to see that these contributions have ceased of late, and that there is a fairer and broader tone about the "special correspondent's" articles in that newspaper no n. (Mr Fergu?.) THE PREMIER'S HOBNAILED BOOTS. If I come down and say that this | Representation] Bill must go through, then I am told that I have my "hobnailed boots'' on, and am forcing things on a reluctant House and a reluctant people. lam a most astonishing man, for if, on the other hand, I say that I am willing to leave it to tho House, then I am told that I am courting the votes of a majority. Hit high or hit low they will not be content. However, I am going to follow my own course, and as long as I get what I think right I do not care whether they ascribe it to the use of hobnailed boots or to courting the majority. Therefore my course is to follow what I think right and take tho consequences.—(Sir LI. Atkinson ) Mr Reeves : National insurance ? Sir H. Atkinson: Yes, sir, that is another measure which the hon. gentleman does not understand, but I will tefl him that wo shall yet see that measure adopted, or we shall see something very much worse. lam not ashamed of it. • lam one of those who believe thoroughly in it, and I venture to say that if it is not adopted we shall see far greater evils come upon us than exist at present. Mr Reeves: The House forceß this Bill on you. Sir H. Atkinson : I think credit is due to the Government for allowing the country to force what it wants, instead of forcing on the country what \t does not want. There may come a time when the hon. gentleman may have a proposition to make from these benches, but that time has not yet come. At any rate, the hon. gentleman is unable to displace me. I have the confidence of the House, and as long as I have that position I am going to assume that I represent the majority. As soon as I fail to do that, no doubt the House will get rid of me. THE MEMIIER FOR TUAPEKA EXPLAINS. I' think the papers in this_ colony are becoming very much Americanized. There iB a very recent matter referring to myself, which youj sir, spoke to me about, you having apparently seen a paragraph in the Wellington 'Evening Press'-it was not then within my knowledge that the matter had been made public You said that, if such had taken place, the person referred to—who was the orderly at the main entrance—would be removed at once. When I first came up this session I was looking at the weather-board in the lobby; and the orderly, who was a new hand, aeked me if I wanted to see a member. I replied: " Yes; many members." That was all that took place, except that, two or three members coming out at the time, I said, more in the way of a joke than anything else, that the orderly had questioned my right to come into the House. A paragraph was circulated about this all over the colony; and every word of it, with the exception of what I now say, is a pure invention on the part of the Press.—(Mr J. C. Brown.) " GREAT FADDISTS.'*
Have not all the great reforms that have been secured in the House of Commons been won in spite of the opposition and in spite of the ridicule of the two great parties? What great reform was ever effected in any country that did not originate with what the hon. member calls a faddist ? Clarkßon and Wilberforce were faddists when they insisted on disturbing the plans either of the Government, or of the Opposition, to expose the wrongs of the suffering negroes. Shaftesbury was a faddist'. What was Cobbett when he went into the British Parliament and declaimed against 'the brutality of flogging men in the British Army ? He was a "faddist." alone; but, in the end, his voice carried the nation, and then, instead of a " faddist," he became " a man who had done a great work for the British Army." O'Connell was a " faddist " when he set to work to persistently bring np the question of Ireland and Ireland's wrongs and Catholic wrongs until, fo a large extent, ho got' them righted. Plimsoll was a " faddist." Even Cobden was a " faddist" when he brought forward, year by year, in spite o£ the TSrltisVi Government, the question of taxation on the people's biead.—(Mr Saunders.)
HANSARD PICKINGS., Issue 7983, 12 August 1889
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