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The regular meeting was held last evening, and attended by the Mayor, and Crs Kimbell, Haynes, Barron, M'Gregor, Lee Smith, Cohen, Cramond, Sinclair, Solomon, and Carroll. CORRESVONDENCE. The Salvation Army's request that their meeting-place should be exempted from payment of rate 3 was referred to the Finance Committee. Mr J. Brown wrote stating that a portion of London street between Scotland and Constitution streets required repairs.—Referred to Works Committee to act. Mr J. Wood wrote complaining of the conduct of the drivers of hansom cabs whose stand is close to the entrance of the Post Office.—Cr Barron moved and Cr Cramond seconded that the letter bo received.—Cr Solomon thought the matter should be referred to the General Committee. No doubt there was some ground for complaint, but a hint from the Committee might bo effectual.—Cr_ Haynes seconded the ainondment, which was carried on a show of hands. Mr H. S. Fish, M.H.R., wrote stating that he would do his utmost to prevent the Auctioneers Bill from becoming law.— Received. The application of Mr A. Hill Jack (on behalf of Miss Mackenzie, of Heriot row), for permission to cut a new footpath from the Queen's drive to her fence, was referred to the Works Committee so act. Sargood, Son, and Ewen asked that a roadway be constructed to their new factory on the reclaimed land.—Cr Barron said that if the Works Committee acted they must be careful that they did nothing in the way of taking over the street.—Referred to the Works Committee to report. Seventeen residents of Bell Tower Hill called attention to " the disgraceful state of the roada and footpaths both from Princes and Rattray streets."—Referred to Works Committee to act, it being understood that a small outlay would be sufficient. The Christchurch City Council wrote that the Joint Committee of the two Houses of Parliament had decided that the Council's Bill re the erection of gasworks was a private measure. It had therefore been determined to aak Parliament during the present session to pass an Act amending the Municipal Corporations Act, 18SG, repealing the latter part of section 369, which prevents municipalities from erecting gasworks where others are established. They asked tho Council to instruct the Dunedin members of Parliament to support the amendment.—Cr Cohen thought that questions of this sort should be closely watched, so as to guard against de- j priving citizens of their rights in the future. The time w»b approaching when it would be advisable to form a municipal union.— The Town Clerk reported that the letter had been favorably replied to. the charitable aid bill. Mr J. Allen, M.H.R., wrote as follows: Hospitals and Charitable Aid Bill, I shall be prepared to assist in getting the Government to postpone the measure in deference to your expressed wishes, but I cannot help saying that I agree with many of the principles in the Bill. We shall have an opportunity of explaining our views during the recess." „ Mr Fish, M.H.R., telegraphed:—" The Council has, I think, come to a wrong conclusion with regard to the Charitable Aid Bill. Subject to an alteration with regard to outdoor relief, I regard it as a good Bill, and a great improvement upon the present Act. I shall endeavor to get the Bill postponed till next session, but if the Government determine to prooesd with it I shall aupport it, subject to the above reservation." THE TRIANGLE. The Secretary of the Conservation Society wrote as follows: — " The Town Clerk, Duuedin. Dear sir,— I am instructed by the Committee of the Dunedin and Suburban Reserves Conservation Society to communicate with your Council regarding the projected improvementa to the Triangle. It is needless for me to recapitulate all that has taken place, but I may remind you that, after several communications had passed, a conference was held between the Reserves Committee of your Council and a sub-committee of the society, at which it waa arranged that the improvements suggested by the society (with certain modifications then agreed to) should be carried out, and that the latter body should raise subscriptions towards the improvements to the extent of L2SQ. It was arranged at the same meeting that tenders should be called for the fencing, the tenderers to supply their own specification, within general limits, in order to ascertain if a better fence could not be obtained for less money than the engineer's estimate. Of course it was understood that the arrangement was subject to confirmation by the Council, and as the Council adopted the report of their Committee, resolved that the fencing he taken in hand, and called for tenders for the fencing as had been suggested, the Committee of the Bociety looked upon the matter as settled. Nor can there be any question but that the work would have been well unde* way by this time had not the proposals of tho syndicate to lease tfae reserve come up. Since that time the soeiety have received no communication regarding the intentions of the Council, and they are consequently placed in a somewhat false position as regards the subscribers. The Committee of the society consider that tho Council are honorably bound to carry out the arrangement which was come to; and, as the season is fast slipping away, I am instructed to request that the matter be at once brought to a definite conclusion. With reference to the alleged difficulty ts to funds, I am requested to point out that the revenue from the Cattle Market Reserve, now amounting to some L 220 per annum, might afford some assistance in tfae difficulty, as it is not ordinary municipal revenue, but is bound by the Act to be expended in improving the Town Belt and other reserves. Mr Fish, M.H.R., wrote protesting against the Council expending L 250 on the fencing of this reserve. When the Reserves Committee recommended that the •work at the Triangle should be done he anpported the proposal, but at that time, if his memory served him right, the Council were told that they had an available balancs of—a very different thing to having only L 485. Again, at a previous meeting of the Council a tender was received for fencing the Southern Recreation Ground, and he moved that that tender be not accepted as the money was required for repairing footpaths, etc., in the wards, and for the same reason he moved in a similar direction with regard to the Triangla tenders; bat if he had had any idea that a farther attempt would be made to fence the Triangle he would certainly have made an effort to have the work done in the ward that he and his colleagues represented. He thought it would be an act of gross injustice to South Ward to accept tenders for the Triangle and refuse those for fencing the Southern Recreation Ground. But he ventured to submit that in the Council's present straitened circumstances it would be most unwise to do either work at present. He was confident that to put the footpaths in the four wards in a proper condition, and do other necessary works, would absorb at least L 260 leaving out of the 1486 a sum of 1,235 whioh should be held for contingencies, one of which ww the reservoir wall. But

apart from this, other demands would be made on the Council which it could not resist. In any event the work at the Triangle was u, luxury, while the repairing of the streets was a necessity. Cr Barron thought that perhaps the L 250 in the hands of the Reserves Society would be sufficient to fence the Triangle, and would move "That Mr Bathgate's and Mr Fish's lotters be sent to the Reserves Committee to bring forward plans and an estimate of the coat of fencing the Triangle." If the work would cost a large sum he wai with Mr Fish in saying the Council could not aiford it. Cr Cramond seconded the motion, but would like to know what sort of fence it was proposed to put up. Cr Sinclair moved as an amendment—"That a reply be sent to Mr Bathgate stating that at" present the Council has no funds at its disposal to carry out this work." That was the real state of affairs, and the Council should say so. Ho thought, however, that tho Council would bo able to give assistance next year. Cr Kimbell seconded the amendment. Cr Lee Smith said the first thing to decide was whether or not the Council had promised to give the Conservation Society the money. If that promise had been made, and if money had been promised to tho society on the understanding that the Council would give as much money as was collected outside, the Council were bound to carry out the promise. There certainly was something in the statement that the Council could not afford it, but once having promised it they should carry it out. ' Cr Cohen said that there was a pledge given to the Conservation Society, but the conditions under which that pledge was given did not now exist. If there were any funds available he would bo sorry to see this work lapse, but in the present position of the Council's finances it would be a wrong thing to listen to any project for going on with it at once. The Council could not, in justice to the wants of the citizens, think of voting the money under present chcuuCr Karros, in reply, said that the Triangle was now anything but a credit to the City; in fact it would be better if it were not there at all. He held that as there had been L 250 subscribed by citizens, and was now in the hands of the society, a small expenditure by the Council would not be an unwise thing, just to makefile Triangle presentable during Exhibition time. Cr Lee Smith pointed out that he had collected some of the money now in the hands of the society, but a large amount of it was given on tho understanding that pound for pound was contributed by the Council, and, therefore, the society would not have the money if the Council did not keep their promise. The amendment was put and lost. Cr Cohen moved as a further amendment —" That a joint meeting of the Finance and Reserves Committees be held, and thatthe representatives of tho Conservation Society be invited to attend that meeting with the object of coming to some understanding about the matter." Cr Carroll seconded.

Cr Solomon thought that neither the motion nor the amendment met the case. The Council should state boldly that they had not the money to spare. Cr Barron said his seconder and himself were willing to withdraw the motion In favor of the amendment. The amendment proposed by Cr Cohen was then put and carried. THE ROSS CREEK RESERVOIR, Mr J. Alien, M.H.R., intimated that the Government had agreed to send an engineer to make a preliminary inspection of the reservoir. Mr Fish, M.H.R., wroto that he held tho opinion that one of the contingencies for which the Council should save their funds was the reservoir wall. He was strongly inclined to think that in order to satisfy the public mind and allay apprehension it would be well to empty the reservoir and permanently stop tho crack or leak. In moving the adoption of the Water Committee's report, Cr Barron said that they recommended that the by wash should ba constructed, aa advised by Mr Mirams, at a cost of L 650, It was pointed out in the surveyor's report that the bywash would seldom bo required, if at all; but it would be a3 well to have the work done, if only to allay uneasiness in the minds of the residents. Ci Kimbell seconded the motion, and drew attention to the fact that although the Council were not in a position to carry out the work recommended by Mr Hay two and a-half years ago, as there was then a debit balance to the water account, yet they could carry out the work now, because there was a credit balance on the 31st of March, 1839, to the water account of L 866, aud it was estimated that next March there would be a credit balance of L 1.500. If the Council did not carry out the work now they would be subjected to very great blame.

The Mayor Baid it appeared to him simply a waste of time to bring up reports proposing to spend money on works for which councillors knew there was hot one shilling available. It waa neither more nor less than misleading the public.

Cr Kimbell did not agree with the mayor. If the revenue from the water supply were spent as the Act directed, there would be sufficient for the purpose indicated ; and he would like to say this, that if tho funds were not kept separate and applied as directed by law the Council were liable to be sued, individually and collectively, at the instance of any ratepayer who chose to take action. He would read what Mr Hay had written on the subject two years and a-half a ß°- . , . Several councillors interrupted with points of order.

Cr Solomon said that Cr Kimbell was quite within his rights in reading any report he chose on the subject, but Cr Kimbell would excuse him for suggesting that it would be injudicious to force the reading on the Council against their wishes. The Mayor said it was evidently against the wish of the Council that this should be read, and Cr Kimbell must be very obtuse if he could not seo that it was so. Tho Council did not wish to be punished in that way. Cr Kimbell replied that he would not punish the Council for long, and argued that he was acting within his rights, after which ho was suffered to proceed.

Cr Solomon said it seemed to him that the Water Committee's report was an excessively unwise one, and that they had begun at the wrong end. It would have been wiser to hear what Mr Usshcr had to say with regard to the necessity of making a bywash before deciding to expend any money on it. Ho would move—"That the clause having reference to the bywash be allowed to stand over." Cr Sinclair seconded tho amendment.

Cr Haynes had no objection to the matter being held over, as he did not know of any immediate necessity for the work. The Committee, however, thought it was necessary to do something, because bojic time ago tho water overflowed the upper reservoir, and if there was a very heavy rainfall it might overflow the lower one. They therefore recommended the construction of a drain which was inexpensive. He maintained that this drain could be carried out for half's estimate. Cr M'Greoor thought there would be no use for the bywa6b. Cr Cramond viewed it as a waste of time and a great mistake to bring up such a report. Cr Barro.n replied that the Committee had only done {heir duty in bringing this recommendation before the Council. If the Council thought it premature no harm was done; indeed, he himself thought it would be wise to hold over the work. The Mayor would be very much surprised if they could get one sensible man in the community who believed that there was any danger from the reservoir, and thought it was useless to discuss the subject when there was no shadow of a doubt as to its security. It was agreed that the clause of the report referring to the bywash should be allowed to stand over, and the report as amended was then adopted. works committee's report.

Cr Sinclair, in moving the adoption of the Works Committee's report, which has already been published, said there were only two important things in it—a recommendation that the application of the Exhibition Commissioners to erect a permanent build* ing jn Cumberland street be declined, and a

recommendation with regard to the Provincial Hotel. The Committee had no alternative but to recommend aB they did with regard to the Exhibition Building, as the Council had previously resolved that no permanent wooden building should be erected on tho portion of the reclaimed ground in question. As regards the Provincial Hotel, Mr Hardy and Mr Mirams had given special attention to the examination of the plans of this building, and they reported that they wore perfectly satisfied that the approaches to the hotel portion equalled the present meaus of exit.

Cr Kimbkll seconded the adoption of the report. Cr Carroll moved that the clause aa to the music hall be referred back to the Committee, who should have power to grant permission for the building to remain during the pleasure of the Council. Tho position of tho hall was at the extreme corner of the buildings, on the Anderson Bay road, and there was no possibility of it being surrounded by buildings for many years to come.

Cr Lee Smith seconded the amendment. It was surely competent to give a little latitude to the Exhibition movement.

The amendment was put and carried. Cr Solomon moved as a further amendment—"That it be an instruction to the Committee that this building be not allowed to be erected in any case unless tho Commissioners enter into a bond that they will pull it down when requested by the Council to do so." Cr Cohen seconded this, but after some discussion it was withdrawn, and Cr Carroll's amendment was eventually carried as a substantive motion. The report was then adopted as amended. electric tramways. The General Committee's report being read, the Mayor moved and Cr Barron seconded its adoption. Cr Sinclair would like to see the clause referring to the concession to the Tramways Company further considered. If left over till next meeting of the Council, members might have au opportunity of making themselves acquainted with the probable results that would arise from the granting of such a concession. So far aa he had been able to gather information on the subject, it all tended to show that in many of the cities at Home a system preferable to the one propose! here had been adopted—a system known as the underground wire system, the electricity passing over the wires. If the concession asked for were granted horßes might be frightened by the arraugements, and the wires crossing the streets would be objectionable—for one reason as they would obstruct the fire brigade ladder, and there might be other reasons for objecting. Cr Kimbell seconded the proposal to defer consideration of this clause till next meeting. Cr Solomon pointed out that there were three methods of propelling by electricity. Ono was the accumulator system, which was not practicable here, because the rails and the general apparatus were not sufficiently strong, nor were the carriages sufficiently strong to carry the accumulators. Another system was to carry tho wire, charged with electricity, through a tunnel under the road as on the Mornington and Roslyn lines. That system could not be adopted here, as it waa very expensive. Then the principle asked for by the company was not dangerous. He had seen it in Melbourne, and could say that it was a good one; but before the Council conoented to a concession of this nature he held that they should know everything about it. A Councillor : Who's your authority ? Cr Solomon : Oh! I don't mind telling you. There he is: Cr Carroll. The amendment was put and carried. OTHER REPORTS, The reports of the Gas and Finauce Committees were adopted. The report of the Reserves Committee was adopted, with the exception of the clause referring to the suspension of the sexton and assistant sexton at the Northern Cemetery, whicii was referred back to the Committee for consideration. TENDERS. Tho following tenders were received and referred to the Works Committee, with power to accept the lowest in both cases : Repairing and metalling the Town Belt roads leading to Roslyn : E. M'Kowen, L7B 10«. Kerbing and channelling footpath in Melville street: P. Lee, LSB 4s Gd ; Brown, Henderson, and Co., LGI 10s 3d; E. M'Kewen, L 62 lis. Supplying coal: John Swan, 22s 6d for Kaitangata, 26s for Newcastle, and 20s for Coalbrookdale. SPECIAL MEETING. The adjourned special meeting to consider the balance-sheet was then held. Cr KtMiiELL, who at last meeting moved that consideration of the balance-sheet should be postponed for a fortnight, said he had looked over the accounts, and he saw that although tho Council had transferred LIO.OOO from the gas account to tho general account, they had only reduced their overdraft by L 7,500. They had spent over their income L 2,428, and it was noticeable that for a number of years past they had been going back. The sooner some councillor plucked up courage enough to move that an increased rate waa necessary the better.

Cr Solomon : Why don't you move it yourself ? Cr Barron : He has not plucked up courage.—(La ugh ten) Cr Solomon : The ratepayers would have your blood.

Cr Cohen did not think the councillors were there to listen to a, sort of financial statement. The question was whether or not tho balance-sheet was correct. Cr Sinclair made a formal motion for the adoption of the balance-sheet, which was seconded by Cr Cbamond, and carried without discussion.

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CITY COUNCIL., Issue 7968, 25 July 1889

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